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Dat2U wrote:Because Wall is currently under his old deal and he's only making 17 mil, the kicker is immediately applied and has to be paid out before his new deal starts.
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:NatP4 wrote:but why would the pacers want Mahinmi's contract
Well, in fairness, we took Mike Pence off their hands. Taking back Mahinmi is the least they can do.
queridiculo wrote:WallToWall wrote:http://basketballnewsdaily.com/evaluating-otto-porter-jr-as-a-trade-target/
Pels looking like a trading partner for Porter.
Why, they don't have anything of value to offer...
WallToWall wrote:I would be looking for picks. They have their 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022 first round pics, and I would look to pry two of those, plus two of their three possible 2021 second round picks.
queridiculo wrote:WallToWall wrote:I would be looking for picks. They have their 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022 first round pics, and I would look to pry two of those, plus two of their three possible 2021 second round picks.
A lottery team isn't going to part with picks, just not going to happen.
Also, what's the point. From a salary cap perspective the Wizards are basically in win now mode, trading Porter is only palatable if you're going to blow the whole thing up.
FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:FAH1223 wrote:
It's not an ideal trade, but I'd lean towards doing it - because I'm for a complete rebuild, and getting the 2019 Phoenix pick would be the kind of asset I'd be looking for, I'm a big Mikal Bridges fan, and the Utah pick helps. Anderson and Rubio might be tradable. And the trade helps us tank.
nate33 wrote:Ruzious wrote:FAH1223 wrote:
It's not an ideal trade, but I'd lean towards doing it - because I'm for a complete rebuild, and getting the 2019 Phoenix pick would be the kind of asset I'd be looking for, I'm a big Mikal Bridges fan, and the Utah pick helps. Anderson and Rubio might be tradable. And the trade helps us tank.
I'd cut Utah out of the deal. Just make it Wall to Phoenix for Anderson and the Phoenix pick. Going forward, I'd rather have Porter than Rubio and the Utah pick. Also, by avoiding the acquisition of Rubio, the Wizards are left without a starting PG. Rivers would be an excellent tank commander to put us in the lottery.
I like it! If we get a couple of second round picks added, I'd call it gravy.FAH1223 wrote:
I agree.queridiculo wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The thing about Scott Brooks being "intimidated" is if true IT MAKES ZERO SENSE.
$35M is guaranteed. After this season $14M, regardless.
2-8 and at THE BOTTOM except for Lue/Lebronless Cleveland and same record Phoenix. Coach is already be tuned out.
Now, with Howard healthy and a FULL ROSTER is the time for a supposedly good coach TO TEACH WHILE PLAYERS LEARN. SB needs to sell hope tix and he needs to SHOW he has a huge pair of balls.
I found this quote from an on air interview with Brooks referenced in the Post piece somewhat troubling.Coincidentally, during his weekly appearance with the Sports Junkies on 106.7 The Fan, the mild-mannered Brooks was asked about his ability to “play the bad cop” with his players when necessary.
“It’s a players’s league, but it’s an effort league,” Brooks said. “If you want to have a good team, you gotta play with great effort. You can’t coach the players like you would be coaching college. You can’t coach the players like I was coached in the ’80s or ’90s. It’s a different way of doing things. You have to be able to get through to guys, but you gotta have the right guys being able to do it, too. You have to have guys that are committed to doing it, too. If you have that, then your job becomes to really coach the technical side of things. We have to give better defensive effort. I have to do a better job of making sure we are into the game plan.”
What this sounds like to me is a guy that's afraid to ruffle feathers and coach players.
He's making a bunch of excuses about how players of today are different etc., but I can guarantee you one thing hasn't changed.
These guys want to win, and there are plenty of coaches around the league that have proven that if you can earn the players respect you CAN coach them like you would be coaching college players.
It's also curious that Brooks is basically making a case for being relieved from his duty with his comment.
These guys have played with up and down effort since he's arrived here, so following his logic he's unable to get through to them so it's either getting the right players, whatever that means, or getting rid of the coach.
badinage wrote:Wall to PHX for Elie Okobo, Josh Jackson, and their 2019 first-round pick.
That would give us a quick retool.
I’d possibly accompany that with a Porter trade, but only if it fetched the right player.
MarcoPolo wrote:You really think anybody would absorb Wall in a trade at this point with his contract in a prospect. Wizards fans are overvaluing him too much. You aint getting 1st round picks in upcoming pretty talented draft year.
Sactowndog wrote:I’m really interested if the Wiz are going to do nothing and be faced with matching an offer for Oubre they can’t afford. The Kings are desperate for a starting 3 and have tons of cap space. They aren’t likely to get: Durant, Butler, Leonard, Harris, Middleton. Assuming all those are out of play, Oubre starts to be a target for an overpay.
DANNYLANDOVER wrote:Followed by:
WAS gets: S. Hill, W. Johnson, 2019 2nd rd pick
NOP gets: K. Oubre, I. Mahinmi
This is mostly a salary dump of Ian's last year, and I really don't see a big need to re-sign Kelly next year. Cut Randall and Johnson/Hill
Roster:
Sato/Okobo
Beal/Rivers/Hill
Porter/Brown
Morris/Anderson/Green
Howard/Holmes/Bryant
I'd still be looking for ways to get any picks for Howard and Morris.
They should have drafted Omari Spellman.King Ken wrote:MarcoPolo wrote:You really think anybody would absorb Wall in a trade at this point with his contract in a prospect. Wizards fans are overvaluing him too much. You aint getting 1st round picks in upcoming pretty talented draft year.
It's been this way for awhile which is why it's extremely unlikely he will be moved. Washington doesn't want bad contracts for him, they want great assets.
That said, Washington needs to look at moving for those expirings for a legit center. Trade a (top 10 protected pick) and land a decent big. They need to Vucci Mane. Try to get him for a top 10 protected pick. I would trade Rivers for him. Since Orlando is in the playoff race, I am not sure they would do that deal
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yctmyxyq
