Political Roundtable Part XXV

[dckingsfan]

Wait - SD was banned ?!?

SD, never mess with Monteclint

[Pointgod]

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Trump is corrupt AF. There’s a lot to impeach him on or hold hearings on which will make his life hellish. Dems didn’t need to wait on Mueller. We all saw him obstruct the investigation for 2 years at various points.

This may be true but it’s not that straightforward. There are a couple things that you have take into account.

1. If the House impeaches there is no way that Republicans will ever convict in the Senate. Like zip zero. This isn’t a reason to not impeach but how do you keep Republicans and Trump from turning it into a political tool? That’s the real problem because they will absolutely use it for their political gain.

2. The majority of Americans aren’t as well versed in legal matters or pay close attention to politics. It may seem harsh but they don’t bother to educate themselves on civic matters. There’s a propaganda network spewing right wing lies and the mainstream media doesn’t cover it well either. Let’s say Trump has his 40% that will never leave him. Let’s say the Democrats have their 40% that are solidly D, but realistically probably only 20% are hardcore left that will impeach Trump no matter what. Then there’s the remaining 20% that either don’t care or will see the impeachment as merely political. How do you convince that 20% that see everything as both sides? I’ve said till I was blue in the face that voters need to get rid of Republicans, even then you have posters in this thread that say you can’t get rid of ALL of them. This line of thinking is probably more common than anyone wants to acknowledge.

This has nothing to do with old Democrats vs younger ones. It has everything to do with Republicans in the Senate being complete trash and obfuscating their responsibility to the country. Democrats have to continue investigations and build a rock solid case for impeachment. This twitter thread is a good plan for how to do it.

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[Pointgod]

Wait so according to TGW who definitely read all 480 pages of the Mueller report there wasn’t any Russian influence in the election? Straight from the Mueller report.

Collectively, the IRA’s social media accounts reached tens of millions of U.S. persons. Individual IRA social media accounts attracted hundreds of thousands of followers. For example, at the time they were deactivated by Facebook in mid-2017, the IRA’s “United Muslims of America” Facebook group had over 300,000 followers, the “Don’t Shoot Us” Facebook group had over 250,000 followers, the “Being Patriotic” Facebook group had over 200,000 followers, and the “Secured Borders” Facebook group had over 130,000 followers. According to Facebook, in total the IRA-controlled accounts made over 80,000 posts before their deactivation in August 2017, and these posts reached at least 29 million U.S persons and “may have reached an estimated 126 million people.”

Hillary Clinton lost by roughly 80000-120000 votes. Yeah but Russia was a hoax.

[dckingsfan]

Wait so according to TGW who definitely read all 480 pages of the Mueller report there wasn’t any Russian influence in the election? Straight from the Mueller report.

Collectively, the IRA’s social media accounts reached tens of millions of U.S. persons. Individual IRA social media accounts attracted hundreds of thousands of followers. For example, at the time they were deactivated by Facebook in mid-2017, the IRA’s “United Muslims of America” Facebook group had over 300,000 followers, the “Don’t Shoot Us” Facebook group had over 250,000 followers, the “Being Patriotic” Facebook group had over 200,000 followers, and the “Secured Borders” Facebook group had over 130,000 followers. According to Facebook, in total the IRA-controlled accounts made over 80,000 posts before their deactivation in August 2017, and these posts reached at least 29 million U.S persons and “may have reached an estimated 126 million people.”

Hillary Clinton lost by roughly 80000-120000 votes. Yeah but Russia was a hoax.

First, Clinton had waaaaay more votes than Trump.

Second, some things have to be believed to be seen. For those that want to believe that Trump won because of his policies - they are never going to wrap their heads around the Russian influence. They will always go back to the prism of "but it was so small in terms of everything else." You can't change their collective mind-set on this - ever. They have a hard time swallowing that Russia actually interfered much less that it was effective.

[dckingsfan]

It has everything to do with Republicans in the Senate being complete trash and obfuscating their responsibility to the country. Democrats have to continue investigations and build a rock solid case for impeachment. This twitter thread is a good plan for how to do it.

It really is a bad idea to put the Ds political capital into an impeachment process. Just continue to point out Trump's flaws and then figure out how to get elected (although with the fissure in the Democratic party, that is now a long-shot).
Run on Trump
Run on Healthcare
Run on Deficits
Run on Fairness
Run on Education

[pancakes3]

i agree that impeachment is a waste of political capital, and whatever capital gained by the results of the report should be directed towards campaign reform - on finance grounds, counter-misinformation, etc.

and if R's are so up in arms about voter fraud, now would be a good time to implement a national ID system, and/or create national standards for voting (can't be mandatory bc unconstitutional).

[Kanyewest]

Wait so according to TGW who definitely read all 480 pages of the Mueller report there wasn’t any Russian influence in the election? Straight from the Mueller report.

Collectively, the IRA’s social media accounts reached tens of millions of U.S. persons. Individual IRA social media accounts attracted hundreds of thousands of followers. For example, at the time they were deactivated by Facebook in mid-2017, the IRA’s “United Muslims of America” Facebook group had over 300,000 followers, the “Don’t Shoot Us” Facebook group had over 250,000 followers, the “Being Patriotic” Facebook group had over 200,000 followers, and the “Secured Borders” Facebook group had over 130,000 followers. According to Facebook, in total the IRA-controlled accounts made over 80,000 posts before their deactivation in August 2017, and these posts reached at least 29 million U.S persons and “may have reached an estimated 126 million people.”

Hillary Clinton lost by roughly 80000-120000 votes. Yeah but Russia was a hoax.

First, Clinton had waaaaay more votes than Trump.

Second, some things have to be believed to be seen. For those that want to believe that Trump won because of his policies - they are never going to wrap their heads around the Russian influence. They will always go back to the prism of "but it was so small in terms of everything else." You can't change their collective mind-set on this - ever. They have a hard time swallowing that Russia actually interfered much less that it was effective.

Random tangents

It's like a Lakers fan (or a Sacramento Kings hater) saying that the officiating had no role in the series. No matter what video evidence says, a Lakers fan would say "Shaq/Kobe is the best" or "Chris Webber is a choke artist" because of these reasons.

It does take time to change people's minds. For instance, I was able to convince my friend that there were no WMDs in Iraq but it took him a couple of years to accept it. People don't like admitting they are wrong ultimately so changing people's mind comes around pretty slowly.

[gtn130]

I love this... The Left/Dems continue to miss the point and the "Pulse of the nation". Which is a continuing trend.

What's the 'pulse of the nation' in your mind? Is capturing 46.1% of the popular vote (3 million fewer votes than Hillary) an indication that Trump understood what people want better than she did?

Here is the truth as I see it from a progressive / republican / Libertarian:

Oh boy let's hear it Mr. Truth Teller. This will be good. Regale us with your logic.

- In 2016, The Dems did not acknowledge real issues in the country and Trump tapped into them which got him elected.

Can you be specific here? What issues? Seems like Trump's primary policy objective was to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.

Bernie and Hillary talked a lot about healthcare. Here's Hillary's campaign platform. What's missing?

- Since then, they have hung on to any and all excuses that allow them to deviate from a real self reflection of where the country is going and how their party's values can help shape it.

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

- Personally, I dont think the Dems have any chance in 2020, but not because Trump is unbeatable. Its because they keep allowing the media and elitist class to guide the party. Examples:

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

1) You want the TRUE Left/liberal Senator with real Policy ideas: You should get behind Elizabeth Warren, but instead support goes to Bernie and he doesn't have the policy chops to be a real leader like Warren... (It should be noted, I mostly cant stand Warren, but im trying to be impartial and give you facts)

Bernie is more progressive than Warren and is the frontrunner to win the nomination as of today. I thought your issue was that Dems don't understand the real issues felt by average people? Isn't Bernie the avatar for middle class economic issues?

Warren has better policy chops, agreed, but Trump is the standard bearer for the Republicans last I checked and he has literally zero understanding of policy. Zero.

2) You want the younger, sharp well-spoken women with real principles and life experience that is against the Military industrial Complex: You should get behind Tulsi Gabbard. A Real liberal, military vet who is sharp, principled, and personable....

Bernie is the current frontrunner for the nomination. He is sufficiently liberal.

Instead, support goes to shady lawyers like Booker/Kamla Harris who are loved by corporatist big donors and haven't had an original thought in their political life. They are from the Clinton wing of "Who gives a damn about principle, just stay elected and regurgitate platitudes" while they would support continued global interventionism.

Ok? Those people suck, agreed. They win elections because their campaigns are well-funded and the average person doesn't pay attention to politics and they vote for the person they recognize.

Look at 95% of the people surrounding Trump. Look at the tax cuts - was that a result of understanding the PULSE OF THE NATION or was that the Republican party slashing taxes for their corporate donors?

3) You want the outside the box/norm candidate with real ideas and a change agent: You should get behind Andrew Yang. A highly intelligent and empathetic entrepreneur that has served in the Obama Administration and has more policies that most every other candidate combined. Including wild/provocative ideas like UBI and barring former politicians from being lobbyist.
Instead... you try to prop up Robert "Call me Beto" O'rourke and Buttigieg who have done NOTHING of substance.

Again, and I can't stress this enough: Donald Trump is your policy guy.

Yell and scream about Trump and Deplorables all you want...
But it was you (In the abstract) that choose people like Harris, Booker, and Beto over Warren, Gabbard, and Yang.

LOL sure man. It's the fault of the Democrat voters that corporations and wealthy elites can fund political campaigns.

You're truly jealous that citizens on the right finally broke free from the traditional "Do-Nothing but get elected" political class and elected Trump...For all his faults. He has re-aligned our party and created a real path forward.

What is the path forward post-Trump?

Your general argument here appears to be that woke libertarian Republicans like yourself broke out of the shackles of the RNC by electing a billionaire grifter gameshow host to do your bidding, and are therefore a smarter group of people. This is not a compelling argument.

[TGW]

Glenn Greenwald, yet again, shredding this Russiagate grifter to pieces:

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[TGW]

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[pcbothwel]

I love this... The Left/Dems continue to miss the point and the "Pulse of the nation". Which is a continuing trend.

What's the 'pulse of the nation' in your mind? Is capturing 46.1% of the popular vote (3 million fewer votes than Hillary) an indication that Trump understood what people want better than she did?

Here is the truth as I see it from a progressive / republican / Libertarian:

Oh boy let's hear it Mr. Truth Teller. This will be good. Regale us with your logic.

- In 2016, The Dems did not acknowledge real issues in the country and Trump tapped into them which got him elected.

Can you be specific here? What issues? Seems like Trump's primary policy objective was to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.

Bernie and Hillary talked a lot about healthcare. Here's Hillary's campaign platform. What's missing?

- Since then, they have hung on to any and all excuses that allow them to deviate from a real self reflection of where the country is going and how their party's values can help shape it.

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

- Personally, I dont think the Dems have any chance in 2020, but not because Trump is unbeatable. Its because they keep allowing the media and elitist class to guide the party. Examples:

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

1) You want the TRUE Left/liberal Senator with real Policy ideas: You should get behind Elizabeth Warren, but instead support goes to Bernie and he doesn't have the policy chops to be a real leader like Warren... (It should be noted, I mostly cant stand Warren, but im trying to be impartial and give you facts)

Bernie is more progressive than Warren and is the frontrunner to win the nomination as of today. I thought your issue was that Dems don't understand the real issues felt by average people? Isn't Bernie the avatar for middle class economic issues?

Warren has better policy chops, agreed, but Trump is the standard bearer for the Republicans last I checked and he has literally zero understanding of policy. Zero.

2) You want the younger, sharp well-spoken women with real principles and life experience that is against the Military industrial Complex: You should get behind Tulsi Gabbard. A Real liberal, military vet who is sharp, principled, and personable....

Bernie is the current frontrunner for the nomination. He is sufficiently liberal.

Instead, support goes to shady lawyers like Booker/Kamla Harris who are loved by corporatist big donors and haven't had an original thought in their political life. They are from the Clinton wing of "Who gives a damn about principle, just stay elected and regurgitate platitudes" while they would support continued global interventionism.

Ok? Those people suck, agreed. They win elections because their campaigns are well-funded and the average person doesn't pay attention to politics and they vote for the person they recognize.

Look at 95% of the people surrounding Trump. Look at the tax cuts - was that a result of understanding the PULSE OF THE NATION or was that the Republican party slashing taxes for their corporate donors?

3) You want the outside the box/norm candidate with real ideas and a change agent: You should get behind Andrew Yang. A highly intelligent and empathetic entrepreneur that has served in the Obama Administration and has more policies that most every other candidate combined. Including wild/provocative ideas like UBI and barring former politicians from being lobbyist.
Instead... you try to prop up Robert "Call me Beto" O'rourke and Buttigieg who have done NOTHING of substance.

Again, and I can't stress this enough: Donald Trump is your policy guy.

Yell and scream about Trump and Deplorables all you want...
But it was you (In the abstract) that choose people like Harris, Booker, and Beto over Warren, Gabbard, and Yang.

LOL sure man. It's the fault of the Democrat voters that corporations and wealthy elites can fund political campaigns.

You're truly jealous that citizens on the right finally broke free from the traditional "Do-Nothing but get elected" political class and elected Trump...For all his faults. He has re-aligned our party and created a real path forward.

What is the path forward post-Trump?

Your general argument here appears to be that woke libertarian Republicans like yourself broke out of the shackles of the RNC by electing a billionaire grifter gameshow host to do your bidding, and are therefore a smarter group of people. This is not a compelling argument.

Lol... I love this. You still sit there high and mighty and view me as the one out of touch. Enjoy the double down on Russia, or what porn star Trump banged 15 years ago.
- First off, Trump had Media Juggarnauts and the intel community undermining his campaign while also fighting off the Clinton DNC and RINO wing of the R's...
Here it is for you chief... Trump TROUNCES the D's in 2020. But sure laugh away.

- Im not questioning Bernie's leftist qualities, im questioning his ability to get anything done. The guy has been a senator for decades and hasnt been a major part of any real piece of legislation. To top it off, he's already folded to the "New Left". He used to talk about immigration, trade deals, etc... Now he couldn't care less about those things and talks about racism and intersectionality. He is Folding just like he did to Clinton. The guy is a useless slug and Overrated by the far left. He doenst have the gravity to command a room and dictate the direction of an administration.
Bernie is only leading because Gabbard and Yang arent as well known yet....But hold your horses bud. It's still a almost a year away from mattering... I think the inclusion of social media/youtube/etc. has changed conventional politics and the speed in which a candidate can rise up.

- You underrate how important immigration was and is to the Trump win. The Elitist class has screwed over our Working class in a number of ways the last few decades, but one major reason is allowing illegal immigration and chain migration to this country... But sure, its all about "Hating Mexicans"

- Boo hoo about fundraising. Jeb Bush, Cruz, Rubio, and Carson far out raised Trump. Simply put, if a candidate is good enough, they shine through it.

[montestewart]

If not for the MSM’s relentless rubbernecking coverage of the Trump campaign, I don’t think Trump would have had the profile to pull off the win. That’s right, he didn’t win despite media, he won because of media.

[pancakes3]

lol at pimping Trump as a bedrock Republican, reclaiming the party from RINOs

[gtn130]

Lol... I love this. You still sit there high and mighty and view me as the one out of touch. Enjoy the double down on Russia, or what porn star Trump banged 15 years ago.
- First off, Trump had Media Juggarnauts and the intel community undermining his campaign while also fighting off the Clinton DNC and RINO wing of the R's...
Here it is for you chief... Trump TROUNCES the D's in 2020. But sure laugh away.

- Im not questioning Bernie's leftist qualities, im questioning his ability to get anything done. The guy has been a senator for decades and hasnt been a major part of any real piece of legislation. To top it off, he's already folded to the "New Left". He used to talk about immigration, trade deals, etc... Now he couldn't care less about those things and talks about racism and intersectionality. He is Folding just like he did to Clinton. The guy is a useless slug and Overrated by the far left. He doenst have the gravity to command a room and dictate the direction of an administration.
Bernie is only leading because Gabbard and Yang arent as well known yet....But hold your horses bud. It's still a almost a year away from mattering... I think the inclusion of social media/youtube/etc. has changed conventional politics and the speed in which a candidate can rise up.

- You underrate how important immigration was and is to the Trump win. The Elitist class has screwed over our Working class in a number of ways the last few decades, but one major reason is allowing illegal immigration and chain migration to this country... But sure, its all about "Hating Mexicans"

- Boo hoo about fundraising. Jeb Bush, Cruz, Rubio, and Carson far out raised Trump. Simply put, if a candidate is good enough, they shine through it.

Do you think the tax cuts were populist Trump policy? The entire legislative agenda is set by the GOP.

And who do you think picked all these Trump appointee circuit judges? Let me tell you - it's Don McGhan. Does he strike you as some dyed-in-the-wool Trumpist? How about the supreme court nominations? Do you have much in common with prep school ivy leaguers like Kavanaugh and Gorsuch? You think those dudes are anything but RINOs?

How about the Koch brothers and the level of political influence they still wield?

The entire GOP coalition is ultimately built around making money for rich people. The racism and anti-abortion stuff is 99% for the rubes.

[Pointgod]

I love this... The Left/Dems continue to miss the point and the "Pulse of the nation". Which is a continuing trend.

What's the 'pulse of the nation' in your mind? Is capturing 46.1% of the popular vote (3 million fewer votes than Hillary) an indication that Trump understood what people want better than she did?

Here is the truth as I see it from a progressive / republican / Libertarian:

Oh boy let's hear it Mr. Truth Teller. This will be good. Regale us with your logic.

- In 2016, The Dems did not acknowledge real issues in the country and Trump tapped into them which got him elected.

Can you be specific here? What issues? Seems like Trump's primary policy objective was to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.

Bernie and Hillary talked a lot about healthcare. Here's Hillary's campaign platform. What's missing?

- Since then, they have hung on to any and all excuses that allow them to deviate from a real self reflection of where the country is going and how their party's values can help shape it.

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

- Personally, I dont think the Dems have any chance in 2020, but not because Trump is unbeatable. Its because they keep allowing the media and elitist class to guide the party. Examples:

Democrats won the midterms by 9%

1) You want the TRUE Left/liberal Senator with real Policy ideas: You should get behind Elizabeth Warren, but instead support goes to Bernie and he doesn't have the policy chops to be a real leader like Warren... (It should be noted, I mostly cant stand Warren, but im trying to be impartial and give you facts)

Bernie is more progressive than Warren and is the frontrunner to win the nomination as of today. I thought your issue was that Dems don't understand the real issues felt by average people? Isn't Bernie the avatar for middle class economic issues?

Warren has better policy chops, agreed, but Trump is the standard bearer for the Republicans last I checked and he has literally zero understanding of policy. Zero.

2) You want the younger, sharp well-spoken women with real principles and life experience that is against the Military industrial Complex: You should get behind Tulsi Gabbard. A Real liberal, military vet who is sharp, principled, and personable....

Bernie is the current frontrunner for the nomination. He is sufficiently liberal.

Instead, support goes to shady lawyers like Booker/Kamla Harris who are loved by corporatist big donors and haven't had an original thought in their political life. They are from the Clinton wing of "Who gives a damn about principle, just stay elected and regurgitate platitudes" while they would support continued global interventionism.

Ok? Those people suck, agreed. They win elections because their campaigns are well-funded and the average person doesn't pay attention to politics and they vote for the person they recognize.

Look at 95% of the people surrounding Trump. Look at the tax cuts - was that a result of understanding the PULSE OF THE NATION or was that the Republican party slashing taxes for their corporate donors?

3) You want the outside the box/norm candidate with real ideas and a change agent: You should get behind Andrew Yang. A highly intelligent and empathetic entrepreneur that has served in the Obama Administration and has more policies that most every other candidate combined. Including wild/provocative ideas like UBI and barring former politicians from being lobbyist.
Instead... you try to prop up Robert "Call me Beto" O'rourke and Buttigieg who have done NOTHING of substance.

Again, and I can't stress this enough: Donald Trump is your policy guy.

Yell and scream about Trump and Deplorables all you want...
But it was you (In the abstract) that choose people like Harris, Booker, and Beto over Warren, Gabbard, and Yang.

LOL sure man. It's the fault of the Democrat voters that corporations and wealthy elites can fund political campaigns.

You're truly jealous that citizens on the right finally broke free from the traditional "Do-Nothing but get elected" political class and elected Trump...For all his faults. He has re-aligned our party and created a real path forward.

What is the path forward post-Trump?

Your general argument here appears to be that woke libertarian Republicans like yourself broke out of the shackles of the RNC by electing a billionaire grifter gameshow host to do your bidding, and are therefore a smarter group of people. This is not a compelling argument.

You gotta love the getting advice from the party that just lost the midterms by 10%.

[Pointgod]

lol at pimping Trump as a bedrock Republican, reclaiming the party from RINOs

Trump is an interesting case where the right pretty much projections whatever they want onto him. He’s sufficiently racist enough to appeal to the bigots in his base. He claims he’s anti establishment but then pretty much does the bidding of establishment Republicans like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. He gets support from Jewish Republicans despite his antisemitism and cozying is to white supremacists. He campaigned on helping blue collar workers but blatantly gave a billion dollars to corporations. The big donors don’t care about the office of the President because Trump is more than happy to sell the Presidency.

And the only reason this works is because the Republican Party is utterly full of ****. They failed to live up to any of the standards they’ve set for themselves. All they can run on is made up cultural issues because they have literally nothing to offer. Climate change, healthcare, income inequality, immigration I have yet to see any serious Republican proposal on any of these issues. And they get away with it because Republican voters lack critical thinking skills to actually call out the fact their party representatives are hypocrites and liars.

[dckingsfan]

lol at pimping Trump as a bedrock Republican, reclaiming the party from RINOs

Trump is an interesting case where the right pretty much projections whatever they want onto him. He’s sufficiently racist enough to appeal to the bigots in his base. He claims he’s anti establishment but then pretty much does the bidding of establishment Republicans like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. He gets support from Jewish Republicans despite his antisemitism and cozying is to white supremacists. He campaigned on helping blue collar workers but blatantly gave a billion dollars to corporations. The big donors don’t care about the office of the President because Trump is more than happy to sell the Presidency.

And the only reason this works is because the Republican Party is utterly full of ****. They failed to live up to any of the standards they’ve set for themselves. All they can run on is made up cultural issues because they have literally nothing to offer. Climate change, healthcare, income inequality, immigration I have yet to see any serious Republican proposal on any of these issues. And they get away with it because Republican voters lack critical thinking skills to actually call out the fact their party representatives are hypocrites and liars.

Violent agreement on this... and I think the Ds could waltz away with the election if they had serious proposals on these.

[pcbothwel]

lol at pimping Trump as a bedrock Republican, reclaiming the party from RINOs

Trump is an interesting case where the right pretty much projections whatever they want onto him. He’s sufficiently racist enough to appeal to the bigots in his base. He claims he’s anti establishment but then pretty much does the bidding of establishment Republicans like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. He gets support from Jewish Republicans despite his antisemitism and cozying is to white supremacists. He campaigned on helping blue collar workers but blatantly gave a billion dollars to corporations. The big donors don’t care about the office of the President because Trump is more than happy to sell the Presidency.

And the only reason this works is because the Republican Party is utterly full of ****. They failed to live up to any of the standards they’ve set for themselves. All they can run on is made up cultural issues because they have literally nothing to offer. Climate change, healthcare, income inequality, immigration I have yet to see any serious Republican proposal on any of these issues. And they get away with it because Republican voters lack critical thinking skills to actually call out the fact their party representatives are hypocrites and liars.

Violent agreement on this... and I think the Ds could waltz away with the election if they had serious proposals on these.

Thats my point DC.... The D's have NOTHING either. Their winning ticket/vision is with Gabbard & Yang. Non-ideologues with character, intelligence, and experience... but the left and MSM wont allow it. They smartened up with Beto it appears, because that guy was the grade A loser of the bunch.

Kamla and Booker are hacks, but I see Kamla as stronger. Booker's record is awful in NJ, but he also talks with this weird, child-like tone to people thinking it makes him seem empathetic... it makes him look like a weak shill.

Buttigieg has some potential, but he is too young/inexperienced as the mayor of South Bend simply doesnt cut it. That said, he could have a future in 2024 and its what I expect.

[gtn130]

Thats my point DC.... The D's have NOTHING either. Their winning ticket/vision is with Gabbard & Yang. Non-ideologues with character, intelligence, and experience... but the left and MSM wont allow it.

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TRUMP is the Republican standard bearer. How are you prescribing all this bull**** that clearly does not apply to Republicans. You’re telling on yourself big time by nakedly pushing this double standard.

Non-ideologue with intelligence, character and experience! Trump checks zero of those boxes!

[pancakes3]

we're not even at the primaries yet and there are a myriad of tax proposals to fix wealth inequality, medicare for all being bandied about, even UBI by Dems, and it's a NOTHING party. meanwhile on the R side, the campaign is being built off xenophobia and WITCH HUNT WITH DIRTY COPS, and they're the principled, get-things-done party?

trump failed to push through a repeal-and-replace bill because he didn't have the "replace" part down, done zero on infrastructure, done zero on immigration legislation despite building a huge part of his reelection platform on "we need to change the laws" and only managed to pass a deeply flawed tax bill because Paul Ryan did all of the heavy lifting for him.