Political Roundtable Part XXXIII

[TGW]

Are you telling me a campaign centered around JOY when people feel like they are F’d economically didn’t work?

No one can afford a home but get Oprah and Beyoncé up on stage and I’m sold

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Paid them too with campaign funds. Crazy. Campaign finance reform should be a thing because these parties just share it with their celeb buddies (of course Bernie talked about this a long time ago). Billion dollar campaign is now 20 mil in debt.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

These smug white men, are they in the room with us right now?

Here I come to save the day

Nope.

I know you're being sarcastic, but I've met you.

You're a champion to the undeserved, like Atticus Finch.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Has anyone mentioned that Kamala's sex and race may have been significant factors in her loss? Asking for a friend.

All the analysis requires no overthinking.

The white man won.

[AFM]

True. But the other white man that was running was not going to win. Basically I think she was handed an almost doomed situation. She did okay. Maybe the best she could have. I voted for her because I thought she would be a fine president. But she was an average at best candidate. Two different things. The truth is, Trump has people going absolutely wild for him. Enthusiasm. Dems haven't had that since Obama.

[DCZards]

Has anyone mentioned that Kamala's sex and race may have been significant factors in her loss? Asking for a friend.

All the analysis requires no overthinking.

The white man won.

If Kamala was a white man—with the same message/campaign—she would have kicked Trump’s arse.

If Trump was a black man, he’d be in jail.

[closg00]

Fitting, let the sh!_t show begin

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[FAH1223]

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[closg00]

Trump will go down as a historical figure to be studied decades from now, the most amazing part of his legacy is that he was never held to account for any criminal or abhorrent behavior, he beat the entire long rap sheet, too-long to even list here.
NYC will never see a dime from his tax avoidance schemes (although it will be interesting to see if Trump properties are seized while he is President)
E. Jean Carroll will never see a penny of that 83M judgement. Teflon Don, no karma for him…

[dobrojim]

True. But the other white man that was running was not going to win. Basically I think she was handed an almost doomed situation. She did okay. Maybe the best she could have. I voted for her because I thought she would be a fine president. But she was an average at best candidate. Two different things. The truth is, Trump has people going absolutely wild for him. Enthusiasm. Dems haven't had that since Obama.

I may have been shown a misleading set of highlights. Harris had wildly enthusiastic crowds in packed venues.
Trump did not. Harris did everything possible. But she was still a black woman.

[pancakes3]

Trump will go down as a historical figure to be studied decades from now, the most amazing part of his legacy is that he was never held to account for any criminal or abhorrent behavior, he beat the entire long rap sheet, too-long to even list here.
NYC will never see a dime from his tax avoidance schemes (although it will be interesting to see if Trump properties are seized while he is President)
E. Jean Carroll will never see a penny of that 83M judgement. Teflon Don, no karma for him…

Yes, there's something uniquely untouchable about Trump, but also, the systems and institutions around him failed spectacularly. Chief of whom, i blame merrick garland. the time to appoint jack smith was on January 7, 2021. garland didn't open an investigation until november 18, 2022.

trump was unindicted co-conspirator to Cohen's case that was sentenced in October 2018. he wasn't arrested because he was a sitting president. trump could have been arrested Jan 21, 2021, the day after biden's inauguration as the unindicted co-conspirator to Cohen, kept in custody for sentencing for that case, while Jack Smith conducted his Jan 6 investigation, and Chutkin would have Trump in prison well before the election. Also would have prevented Trump from keeping classified documents.

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Trump will go down as a historical figure to be studied decades from now, the most amazing part of his legacy is that he was never held to account for any criminal or abhorrent behavior, he beat the entire long rap sheet, too-long to even list here.
NYC will never see a dime from his tax avoidance schemes (although it will be interesting to see if Trump properties are seized while he is President)
E. Jean Carroll will never see a penny of that 83M judgement. Teflon Don, no karma for him…

Yes, there's something uniquely untouchable about Trump, but also, the systems and institutions around him failed spectacularly. Chief of whom, i blame merrick garland. the time to appoint jack smith was on January 7, 2021. garland didn't open an investigation until november 18, 2022.

trump was unindicted co-conspirator to Cohen's case that was sentenced in October 2018. he wasn't arrested because he was a sitting president. trump could have been arrested Jan 21, 2021, the day after biden's inauguration as the unindicted co-conspirator to Cohen, kept in custody for sentencing for that case, while Jack Smith conducted his Jan 6 investigation, and Chutkin would have Trump in prison well before the election. Also would have prevented Trump from keeping classified documents.

Agree about Garland, was one of those he worst AG’s in recent history, shockingly weak and pathetic

[pancakes3]

hate that ^

[Pointgod]

Fitting, let the sh!_t show begin

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The only reason Biden doesn’t strangle this traitor is because he’s trying to set a good example for the rest at of the world. Trump is such a loathsome piece of garbage

[Zonkerbl]

https://theappeal.org/fund-the-police-backfired-2024/

"Mondaire Jones, an ex-Democratic congressman from New York City’s wealthy suburbs, tweeted Saturday that his party needs to continue jettisoning progressives from its coalition.

“So long as leaders in the Democratic Party capitulate to extremists who want them to use words like ‘defund the police’ and deny the existence of a border crisis, they will continue to lose tough elections,” he wrote.

Jones’s memory seems shockingly short—he ran on this exact, centrist platform in 2024 and lost his own election by a large margin last week. His race encapsulates the issue here: The party’s love-fest with police and prosecutors appears to have done less than nothing to gin up votes or change the party’s overall perception. But mainstream Democrats are now arrogantly digging in their heels instead of learning any lessons."

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[pancakes3]

https://theappeal.org/fund-the-police-backfired-2024/

"Mondaire Jones, an ex-Democratic congressman from New York City’s wealthy suburbs, tweeted Saturday that his party needs to continue jettisoning progressives from its coalition.

“So long as leaders in the Democratic Party capitulate to extremists who want them to use words like ‘defund the police’ and deny the existence of a border crisis, they will continue to lose tough elections,” he wrote.

Jones’s memory seems shockingly short—he ran on this exact, centrist platform in 2024 and lost his own election by a large margin last week. His race encapsulates the issue here: The party’s love-fest with police and prosecutors appears to have done less than nothing to gin up votes or change the party’s overall perception. But mainstream Democrats are now arrogantly digging in their heels instead of learning any lessons."

it's blindingly obvious that the people of this country on both sides yearn for change and it's Trump's perceived ability and commitment to deliver change, that is the engine driving his popularity.

it's also blindingly obvious that what voters care most about, more than any individual change among the various marginalized groups (LGBTQ+ rights, black lives matter, dreamers, white supremacy, what have you) is the united discontent between the haves and the have-nots. Call it inflation, call it wage disparity, call it wealth gap, call it housing crisis, call it whatever you want to call it, people are broke and angry.

it's not that hard. unless you're a boomer or born privileged, in which case, it appears to be impossibly hard.

or if you're mondaire jones, you're a sellout kid who made it out of poverty, went on to stanford, then harvard law, are definitely smart enough to know better, but you're tapdancing for the donor class.

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Wow, the Vodka and caviar are flowing in Moscow.

[Kanyewest]

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This is almost as good news as the DOGE committee.....