Otto Porter

dobrojim · Post #1501 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:52 pm

JWizmentality wrote:His jumpshot is almost identical to Durant's now.

It is? Who knew?

Hope that you're right but I'm from Missouri on this one. Show me (I know he
hasn't had that chance yet).

Post #1502 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:01 pm

I gotta agree with pif there. Otto's most likely going to be just fine, but almost every comparison made to Durant are way off. Durant is a freak - his combination of measurements and abilities and production are off the charts - maybe off the all-time charts. Comparing anyone but an all-time great to him (or even just parts of his game) probably isn't going to work.

JWizmentality · Post #1503 » by **JWizmentality** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:10 pm

dobrojim wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:His jumpshot is almost identical to Durant's now.

It is? Who knew?

Hope that you're right but I'm from Missouri on this one. Show me (I know he
hasn't had that chance yet).

I didn't say it was as good, just the form. I hope it becomes half as "ottomatic" as Durant's

dobrojim · Post #1504 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:37 pm

Seems to me OP has a much less orthodox shooting form than KD.
OP has a low release. KD's is more traditional and above his head.

AFM · Post #1505 » by **AFM** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:26 pm

They're both ugly. Both have that skinny swag awkward game.

tontoz · Post #1506 » by **tontoz** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 am

Even ignoring Durant's pro-career the comparisons are laughable. Durant averaged 26/11 shooting 47% from the field, 40% from 3 (6 attempts per game) as a freshman at Texas. His standing reach is 4.5" higher than Porter.

Some people might be picking up some bad habits in the offseason..

fishercob · Post #1507 » by **fishercob** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:37 am

Found Ariza's comments: http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... rview-2014

Check around 1:40. I love how he mentions Otto unsolicted, with a twinkle in his eye, no less. He has some complementary words about Otto again around 9:30 or so.

I wish we had kept him but am excited for what Otto will bring.

hands11 · Post #1508 » by **hands11** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:49 am

fishercob wrote:What excites me about Otto is that he doesn't need to force things on offense to be really effective. The role we saw from him in summer league is very different from what we're going to see during the season. I think one of the reasons the FO didn't feel the need to keep Ariza at all costs was a high degree of confidence that Otto could do much of what Ariza did (particularly on offense, initially). They've had this guy in the system for a year and have seen him grow in practice. Remember it was Ariza himself who gave props to Otto -- I dont remember the exact choice of words, but something to the effect of "he's already really good" -- in his pubic exit interview.

Part of what made Ariza so good last year is that he took nearly 52% of his shots from beyond the arc and just 25% of his shots came between 3 feet and the 3 point line. I've seen some hand wringing about Pierce not being a great corner three point shooter too. I think Otto is going to thrive shooting that corner 3, and his overall offensive upside given his ballhandling and playmaking abilities significantly exceed's Ariza's. On D, he won't be the player Ariza was last year. But he has the physical and mental tools. Ariza wasn't the defender at 21 that he is now, and I don't think there;s any way to get Otto where he needs to be other than to get him experience.

I think Otto's play is going to make him a beloved Wizard when it's all said and done. Just a feeling.

Actually I think that is exactly the role he will play with the second unit when Miller isn't creating.

With the first unit, I expect him to spot up like TA did, though he will be able to drive on close outs better where he will pull up mid range or finish around the ring ( even if its not a dunk )

With the 2nd unit, I expect Randy to give Otto ops like he gave Beal last time. To some degree, they will live with his mistakes as he learns. Randy will live with some inefficiency like he did Beal while he learned. Granted, with more ball handlers and better post players, they don't have to suffer as bad as Otto gets his chances, but I expect them to fit them in and give him ops to develop his ball in hand skills because come end of the season, thats what they will need. Much like SAS developed Lenard.

Its will start with spot ups and mid range and develop more into ball handing creating.

hands11 · Post #1509 » by **hands11** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:01 am

Ruzious wrote:I gotta agree with pif there. Otto's most likely going to be just fine, but almost every comparison made to Durant are way off. Durant is a freak - his combination of measurements and abilities and production are off the charts - maybe off the all-time charts. Comparing anyone but an all-time great to him (or even just parts of his game) probably isn't going to work.

You can have similarities without being an exact copy.

People are just pointing out some similarities.

No one is saying he is KD.

But its fun to read more people believing in his potential. Starting late last year he started showing it. SL was awesome. Couldn't have gone much better then it did. For him and Glen.

Good stuff.

hands11 · Post #1510 » by **hands11** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:07 am

dobrojim wrote:Seems to me OP has a much less orthodox shooting form than KD.
OP has a low release. KD's is more traditional and above his head.

He doesn't have a low release. Where do you see that ?

Its not high. Its not low. He is long and it looks like a normal height release. I would actually say on the high side then the lower side. But looks about right to me.

Now when he comes across the middle, he does a little double clutch type thing but he has the space to do that on the move. But catch and shoot, his release looks plenty high. No way would I call it low.

McFilthy · Post #1511 » by **McFilthy** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:15 pm

fishercob wrote:Found Ariza's comments: http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... rview-2014

Check around 1:40. I love how he mentions Otto unsolicted, with a twinkle in his eye, no less. He has some complementary words about Otto again around 9:30 or so.

I wish we had kept him but am excited for what Otto will brin g.

Thanks for posting this. Interesting to see the exit interview knowing now that Trevor A left. I can't blame him considering the Wizards hopes:

1. Wizards best case scenerio (dream scenerio) = KD signs with the Wizards in free agency in 2016
2. 2nd (& more realistic) best scenario = Otto develops into an awesome up & coming player
3. If 1 & 2 don't happen, at least you have Ariza

Ariza is a starter in this league & knew that if 1 or 2 happen, he is likely on the trading block.

I am pleased that Wiz management showed enough faith in Otto to let Ariza walk instead of overpaying/over-committing. Signing Pierce gives Otto more minutes than if Ariza was back. This move forces Randy to develop Otto more.

Thanks for your service Trevor. You had some nice chemistry with Wall & co. and helped set the tone defensively. They need that in Houston.

dckingsfan · Post #1512 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:42 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... -together/

go'stags · Post #1513 » by **go'stags** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:40 pm

Last year when the offense was humming, after a Wall or Beal pick and roll the ball would swing to either Ariza or Webster, who would then immediately run another pick and roll on the opposite side of the floor. There would then be times were we hardly ever saw this action--I don't know why that is, but maybe it was because Webster and Ariza's inconsistent (at best) ball handling abilities. With Otto's playmaking ability, I hope that Wittman can design some things to put Otto is position to handle the rock.

hands11 · Post #1514 » by **hands11** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:37 am

go'stags wrote:Last year when the offense was humming, after a Wall or Beal pick and roll the ball would swing to either Ariza or Webster, who would then immediately run another pick and roll on the opposite side of the floor. There would then be times were we hardly ever saw this action--I don't know why that is, but maybe it was because Webster and Ariza's inconsistent (at best) ball handling abilities. With Otto's playmaking ability, I hope that Wittman can design some things to put Otto is position to handle the rock.

You think PP and Ottos ball handing will make that much of a difference ?

go'stags · Post #1515 » by **go'stags** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:43 pm

They both can handle the ball and are good, smart, willing passers. If put in a position to do so, yes I believe they can make an impact with their ball handling ability. Pierce may be getting a little old for that role, but I Porter can definitely do it.

dckingsfan · Post #1516 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:38 pm

go'stags wrote:They both can handle the ball and are good, smart, willing passers. If put in a position to do so, yes I believe they can make an impact with their ball handling ability. Pierce may be getting a little old for that role, but I Porter can definitely do it.

So your win prediction is? And standings in the EC?

go'stags · Post #1517 » by **go'stags** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:44 am

Haha, no idea. With Pierce at SF rather than small ball PF I would say maybe 45, but I do like our improved depth, plus another year of growth from Wall and Beal. I gotta believe that Wittman will improve the offensive philosophy and arrange for less long two pointers, but then again this is the Wizards we are speaking on. I'll say 48, although I think we would have a chance at 50 plus if we played Pablo at PF for stretches. So I will say 48, good for 4th in the East.

WallWithTheDime · Post #1518 » by **WallWithTheDime** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:53 pm

Media day pic, looks like otto porter, gained weight/muscle
huge improvement thus far.

heres where you can find a lot of the pics. http://www.bulletsforever.com/2014/9/29/6863163/washington-wizards-media-day-2014-coverage

bealwithit · Post #1519 » by **bealwithit** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:18 pm

WallWithTheDime wrote:Media day pic, looks like otto porter, gained weight/muscle
huge improvement thus far.

heres where you can find a lot of the pics. http://www.bulletsforever.com/2014/9/29/6863163/washington-wizards-media-day-2014-coverage

EAT BIG GET BIG YEAH OTTO YEAH

Knighthonor · Post #1520 » by **Knighthonor** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:12 am

where the videos people!!