Political Roundtable Part XXVII

[daoneandonly]

Come out and walk with me in Houston. I run into a LOT of young Hispanics. I just can't get them to register to vote.

When I talk to them - they indeed are against Trump - but not enough to actually vote.

Hispanics and Asians have the potential to absolutely change American politics in some rather unpredictable ways, except they don't vote so much.

And the wild thing is that a lot of them would identify with certain policies of the Republican. Amazing that if the Republican Party wasn’t so insanely racist they’d be able to shut out Democrats out of politics for generations.

You got that first part right, most Hispanics' and Asians' identify far more with the right than the left, again its called "right" for a reason

But its the media that keeps feeding this lie that Republicans are racist, its all they can do to keep the left train rolling.

[daoneandonly]

I'm saying its two face to be up in arms about a child being harmed outside the womb, but celebrate a child being killed in the womb.

Dude this is one of the most laughable things you've said in your history of posting here.

-Pedophilia and abortion are not moral equivalents even if you say they are.
-Someone can be pro-choice and condemn pedophilia without being "two face"
-Nobody celebrates an abortion! It's a categorically bad situation.

You are absolutely obsessed with bludgeoning people with ABORTION, and the transparent reason for this is that the abortion issue is your cover for supporting Trump, someone disqualified from any religion-based system of morality. You are the hypocrite here, and your screeching about abortion is fooling absolutely no one. Each day you support Trump, passively or otherwise, is a day you live in direct violation of the religious values you claim to adhere to.

Even yang called out people who celebrate abortion, a known pro choice guy, so no gt, there are several that celebrate it. And again, I dont support Trump over guys like Ryan, kasich, pence, Rubio, Jeb, etc, in fact back in 2016, my order of support was for kasich, rubio, and bush, with trump being dead last. But unfortunately, the hand we were dealt was Trump. And I'd take Trump over any card carrying member of the baby killing brigade, which is everyone on the left who ever ran and ever will run. Not all sin is created equal, a killing an innocent baby trumps all, pun intended.

[pancakes3]

go away dude, nobody wants you here. like, yeah lol at me for wanting to hang out w my virtual friends but wtf are you doing typing at people who uniformly and actively dislike you? like, this isn't a nate situation where we can talk ball and keep politics out of it - all you do on the wizboard is engage in bad political takes with your bad brain. please, just leave.

[daoneandonly]

like yeah, like this. Why dont you go expand your vocabulary. Do you think you and your cronies not liking me keeps me up at night? Unlike you and dob, I dont live for the adulation of virtual strangers. If I annoy you so much just put me on ignore, in fact I thought you did? But you have some fascination with having to reply to anything I say.

[dckingsfan]

Bill Clinton was the good majority of those things. Draft dodger? Yea that belongs in the same category as the other detestable things. The draft was a moronic idea, anyone who dodged it was right in doing so.

And why do you guys keep bringing religion into it? Only way of explaining why someone can bef so heartless in being pro choice?

And yea to your graph, we just cant recover from the miscreant Obama tenure, irs been downhill since

Going back to you quote:

...There's not 1 person in the Democratic party...

What you are really saying is that there was a Democrat who was 2 of 6 - and Obama was 0 of 6 like all of the current D POTUS candidates -- they aren't close to as bad as Trump.

And I bring that graph into play as the evangelists have been willing to hold their collective noses to get what they want. But it really isn't what they expected. They are now trusted ~ much as congress to do the right thing...

One of your post is an "accused" child molester? So unsubstantiated accusations warrant something now? And check your math, Bill Clinton was more than 2 items on your list, nice try though. One could even argue he was a child molester, seeing how the brain isnt fully developed until 25 (for all you folks who always preach science) and she was what 22 at the time he seduced her. And Obama is a liar, so again, stop trying to manipulate the narrative.

Did Obama every lie - sure. Was he a serial liar like the current POTUS - not even close.

Point stands... the more the church get's involved with politics and gets involved with this current tax cheating, philandering, serial lying, draft dodging and probable rapist and child molester the less the church is trusted. An unintended consequence.

[daoneandonly]

Going back to you quote:

What you are really saying is that there was a Democrat who was 2 of 6 - and Obama was 0 of 6 like all of the current D POTUS candidates -- they aren't close to as bad as Trump.

And I bring that graph into play as the evangelists have been willing to hold their collective noses to get what they want. But it really isn't what they expected. They are now trusted ~ much as congress to do the right thing...

One of your post is an "accused" child molester? So unsubstantiated accusations warrant something now? And check your math, Bill Clinton was more than 2 items on your list, nice try though. One could even argue he was a child molester, seeing how the brain isnt fully developed until 25 (for all you folks who always preach science) and she was what 22 at the time he seduced her. And Obama is a liar, so again, stop trying to manipulate the narrative.

Did Obama every lie - sure. Was he a serial liar like the current POTUS - not even close.

Point stands... the more the church get's involved with politics and gets involved with this current tax cheating, philandering, serial lying, draft dodging and probable rapist and child molester the less the church is trusted. An unintended consequence.

You want to separate church and state, then support a flat tax system, because the progressive tax system mostly helps the lesser income folks, which is a fundamental religious stance. But of course, you want it both ways

[daoneandonly]

For those who live in Montgomery County, just look at the joke of school boundary changes being talked about and proposed. All for the sake of "liberal equality"

[dckingsfan]

One of your post is an "accused" child molester? So unsubstantiated accusations warrant something now? And check your math, Bill Clinton was more than 2 items on your list, nice try though. One could even argue he was a child molester, seeing how the brain isnt fully developed until 25 (for all you folks who always preach science) and she was what 22 at the time he seduced her. And Obama is a liar, so again, stop trying to manipulate the narrative.

Did Obama every lie - sure. Was he a serial liar like the current POTUS - not even close.

Point stands... the more the church get's involved with politics and gets involved with this current tax cheating, philandering, serial lying, draft dodging and probable rapist and child molester the less the church is trusted. An unintended consequence.

You want to separate church and state, then support a flat tax system, because the progressive tax system mostly helps the lesser income folks, which is a fundamental religious stance. But of course, you want it both ways

I am doing no such thing - I am pointing out an unintended consequence of the church getting involved in politics...

And please - our tax code is so broken at this point that to say something like "flat tax system" has no meaning until you deal with the carveouts.

[daoneandonly]

Did Obama every lie - sure. Was he a serial liar like the current POTUS - not even close.

Point stands... the more the church get's involved with politics and gets involved with this current tax cheating, philandering, serial lying, draft dodging and probable rapist and child molester the less the church is trusted. An unintended consequence.

You want to separate church and state, then support a flat tax system, because the progressive tax system mostly helps the lesser income folks, which is a fundamental religious stance. But of course, you want it both ways

I am doing no such thing - I am pointing out an unintended consequence of the church getting involved in politics...

And please - our tax code is so broken at this point that to say something like "flat tax system" has no meaning until you deal with the carveouts.

The lack of church trust, involvement, belief, etc has far less to do with politics and just a symptom of the world we live in now.

[pancakes3]

it shouldn't keep you up at night but it's kind of sad that you keep engaging with people that dislike you. not just disagree with you, but actively dislike, and don't hold you in any meaningful esteem.

i have a fascination with you leaving. you'll notice that instead of trying to engage with you, i have since changed my posts re: you to just telling you to go away.

go away.

me putting you on ignore is not enough. your gravity of idiocy derails the conversation of the thread so much that where your presence is obvious in exactly the same way that astronomers detect black holes. just like when a patch of the sky is suspiciously lacking of any light is indicative of a black hole, a sharp drop in the substantive posts in this thread is indicative of your presence.

[daoneandonly]

i dont answer to you, you may be in the bottom 4 people on this earth I'd ever listen to or respect

[pancakes3]

i'm not ordering you to go away. i'm just asking. please. go away.

[dckingsfan]

You want to separate church and state, then support a flat tax system, because the progressive tax system mostly helps the lesser income folks, which is a fundamental religious stance. But of course, you want it both ways

I am doing no such thing - I am pointing out an unintended consequence of the church getting involved in politics...

And please - our tax code is so broken at this point that to say something like "flat tax system" has no meaning until you deal with the carveouts.

The lack of church trust, involvement, belief, etc has far less to do with politics and just a symptom of the world we live in now.

Violent disagreement - the closer the church gets to politics and Trump the lower the trust levels...

[montestewart]

"There's not 1 person in the Democratic party who's morally superior to him, so what differencedoes it make? You dont have a better alternative."

---- daoneandonly

That’s just plain ol’ trock n troll.
Everyone knows that Trump’s a pedo
“Morally superior” so that’s the bar?
Just about everybody is by far.
Huey Newton, Charles Manson,
Taylor, Zac and Isaac Hanson
Liberace, Yanni, and GG Allen
Galloping Gourmet and squirtin Fallon
Captain Kangaroo, the Good Humor Man
The little girl’s butt with a Coppertone tan
Rosie Ruiz and Rosie O’Donnell
Mayor McCheese and Ronald McDonald
Pretty much anyone you can name
Trump’s shamelessness put them all to shame
Didn’t really know how low you could go
Til I saw his fat ass sag to the flo

Come on monte, Clinton's a pedo, that's been proven. And an obvious, almost ridiculous question, whats wrong with being a pedo? Easys answer right, its harming an innocent, defenseless child who's done nothing wrong?

Last I checked, Dems dont care much about that. Just look at the debate, Sanders and the other charlatans on the debate stage saying only a pro choice person can be the next in line for the SCOTUS.

Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

That’s all I get for that lip smackin’ riff? Damn! Your love is definitely not on Da1!

[doclinkin]

Yeah baseless

Proof is in the pudding, you have proof? Show the receipts.

You're the one making the baseless accusation. What's your proof that Clinton was a pedophile? You're a liar and an alt right lickspittle.

Did you not read the above, I know your left side relies on pubescent ages 18-24 to get any kind of votes, but those folks dont have fully developed brains, ask your scientist friend dob. Clinton in his middle age cheated on his wife with someone who didnt even have a fully developed brain yet, 22 < 25.

Hang on, you're leaning on science now? Science suggests a fetus doesn't have higher function brainwaves until it is 22-24 weeks post gestation. Hence, not a 'person' yet. To say nothing of the discussion of viability ex utero, in the period of development where god himself cannot keep a baby alive if the mother dies.

Law says 18 is age of consent in all states. You have a better argument on abuse of power in the case of Clinton than stating that 18 year olds are not adult. The Law is the Law. Though Dershowitz, when his and Trump's buddy Epstein was arrested, came out with an article stating you can't really have an age of consent when children from other countries or cultures may develop earlier... That's your guy, and your guy's guy. Trump who said he'd date Ivanka if she wasn't his daughter. And who told a 12 year old she was pretty and to come see him in 6 years. That's your guy.

Gross, man. You're honestly on here playing the moral equivalency game defending pedophilia. Its fair to say: yeah my guy is a disgusting dirt bag buyt all I care about is court appointments. It's intellectually dishonest to desperately scrape the catbox of ancient political history looking for anything that stinks on the opposing side and then try to say hey look! There's dirt over there! A long ass time ago! Therefore all Dems are as gross as the human colostomy bag who is infecting our body politic right now.

[doclinkin]

Yeah baseless

Proof is in the pudding, you have proof? Show the receipts.

You're the one making the baseless accusation. What's your proof that Clinton was a pedophile? You're a liar and an alt right lickspittle.

Did you not read the above, I know your left side relies on pubescent ages 18-24 to get any kind of votes, but those folks dont have fully developed brains, ask your scientist friend dob. Clinton in his middle age cheated on his wife with someone who didnt even have a fully developed brain yet, 22 < 25.

Also isn't your argument that people who get pregnant should be accountable for their actions? We don't legally hold children accountable for their actions to the same standard as adults, are you saying that 'children' age 18-24 should not be liable for the choices they make? I mean, they should have consequence free abortions available to them, since clearly they are not of any age appropriate for parenting and raising children of their own.

[bsilver]

I recently read an interesting book about the assassination of James Garfield. Garfield was not running for president, and did not want to be president. However, the Republican Convention was hopelessly hung with no hope of nominating anyone who actually wanted the job. So, Garfield who was liked and respected by the opposing factions of the party was drafted and elected president.

Could this happen this year at the Democrat's convention? It's possible. Who would be drafted? Sherrod Brown? Some interesting choices:
Nancy Pelosi
James Comey
Adam Schiff
Colin Kaepernick
Michelle Obama
Rachel Maddow
Charles Barkley

[JWizmentality]

It never ceases to amaze me how easily you guys get sucked into DA1's upside down world. Look at you guys preaching logic and facts to a tinfoil pleb.

[pancakes3]

I recently read an interesting book about the assassination of James Garfield.

I too was thinking of Garfield recently. It was in response to Zonk's comments about making the DOJ independent, and Barr's actions. Garfield was assassinated by a loon who thought that he deserved a political appointment and when he was snubbed, he shot Garfield.

Trump has abused the spoils system on a pretty gross level thus far. These are just random thoughts, really.

[daoneandonly]

You're the one making the baseless accusation. What's your proof that Clinton was a pedophile? You're a liar and an alt right lickspittle.

Did you not read the above, I know your left side relies on pubescent ages 18-24 to get any kind of votes, but those folks dont have fully developed brains, ask your scientist friend dob. Clinton in his middle age cheated on his wife with someone who didnt even have a fully developed brain yet, 22 < 25.

Hang on, you're leaning on science now? Science suggests a fetus doesn't have higher function brainwaves until it is 22-24 weeks post gestation. Hence, not a 'person' yet. To say nothing of the discussion of viability ex utero, in the period of development where god himself cannot keep a baby alive if the mother dies.

Law says 18 is age of consent in all states. You have a better argument on abuse of power in the case of Clinton than stating that 18 year olds are not adult. The Law is the Law. Though Dershowitz, when his and Trump's buddy Epstein was arrested, came out with an article stating you can't really have an age of consent when children from other countries or cultures may develop earlier... That's your guy, and your guy's guy. Trump who said he'd date Ivanka if she wasn't his daughter. And who told a 12 year old she was pretty and to come see him in 6 years. That's your guy.

Gross, man. You're honestly on here playing the moral equivalency game defending pedophilia. Its fair to say: yeah my guy is a disgusting dirt bag buyt all I care about is court appointments. It's intellectually dishonest to desperately scrape the catbox of ancient political history looking for anything that stinks on the opposing side and then try to say hey look! There's dirt over there! A long ass time ago! Therefore all Dems are as gross as the human colostomy bag who is infecting our body politic right now.

No, it further the point how science shouldn't be used as an argument when convenient for an argument. If you all believed in all science all the time the legal voting age should be changed to 25, but that will result in the R's controlling all 3, so of course science doesn't matter there