Political Roundtable Part XVIII

[dckingsfan]

Gun safety classes should be something both sides agree on. That's supposedly one of the purposes of the NRA - to promote gun safety. And they could be involved in making and providing the tests and classes.

Right! You should have to pass a gun safety class every two years. Show that you know how to handle the guns you have safely. I am just a little left of this... no reason to have more than two or three guns unless you are a collector. But if you are a collector - there should be different more stringent rules on storage and inspection.

I'm with you - I think both sides can win on this.

Especially if the poll that cammac cited continues to trend. But this will be a bloody battle with lots of misinformation.

[Kanyewest]

[closg00]

This isn't real, dude.

My wife's a teacher. These questionnaires are extremely common and Jesus/parents are the most prominent answers every year at every school in the country.

Bigger picture...these things are graded for content, grammar and completion.

Public school teachers don't care who you choose. Just that you complete the assignment.

The picture is literally a lie. A fabrication. A falsehood to rile up one group of Americans against another group.

Throughout history issues of race, economics and religion have always been manipulated to distract the masses from larger more pressing issues in front of you.

This is a perfect example.

Everyone not named SD20 figured that out, sharing stuff from James Woods has pitfalls.

[UcanUwill]

I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

The right to bear arms is outdated and ridiculous to me. Gun is a tool to kill, how is that the right for everyone to have such a thing? Makes zero sense to me. Its not a basic right like some Americans act, voting is basic and no brainer right, owning a killing tool is just completely different, What if constitution said you can own mass destruction weapon, would you act like its a basic right too, give me a break?
And don't go at me and say that crazies would get guns illegally, laws wouldnt change a thing just effect law-abiding citizens. Bull ****, as I said I live in a country with very strict gun laws, we dont have guns around, we dont feel like we have less rights that way, and guess what, gun laws parallelly effects illegal gun availability. We dont have black markets, we cant steal guns from others, because just nobody has it. The easiest way to get a gun for me would probably be trying to rob a policemen if I think about it. In America, I imagine it would be way way easier to get a gun, even if I couldn't get it legally.
If you think you wouldn't feel safe in home if you had no gun, I dont know what to say, but I think you get it backwards. If I knew all my neighbours and acquaintances had guns or had easy way of getting one, I wouldn't feel safe at all. Owning gun myself wouldn't change that. I feel much safer knowing we dont have guns around.

American gun laws are absurd, and I am amazed that sensible Americans haven't overthrown these gun nuts who are holding on to their absurd right. I truly believe that the reason why America has those particular laws are because of nut people, not because of ordinary people. Some immature jerks just have fetish for guns, I do not believe that they believe having those laws and rights makes America better, they are just selfish, they dont care for others, they only care for themselves! Look, I am a man, I understand the fetish for guns, when I was a kid, we all had king cobras that shoot bennies, we all had that stuff, it was fun shooting things and pretend you are Rambo or something, but sometime you must grow up. How many more mass shootings will it take?

[gtn130]

Read on Twitter

This was a good read. Pretty sober explanation for why the Trump/Russia stuff is so believable.

[gtn130]

I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

Don't do it my man

[montestewart]

I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

Don't do it my man

Agree with gtn130. If this thread gets you too depressed, post in some of the basketball threads. Come by anytime.

[closg00]

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"No collusion no collusion"

[stilldropin20]

This isn't real, dude.

My wife's a teacher. These questionnaires are extremely common and Jesus/parents are the most prominent answers every year at every school in the country.

Bigger picture...these things are graded for content, grammar and completion.

Public school teachers don't care who you choose. Just that you complete the assignment.

The picture is literally a lie. A fabrication. A falsehood to rile up one group of Americans against another group.

Throughout history issues of race, economics and religion have always been manipulated to distract the masses from larger more pressing issues in front of you.

This is a perfect example.

Everyone not named SD20 figured that out, sharing stuff from James Woods has pitfalls.

Every single one of you guys call that shooter a white supremacist 3 days ago.

Pots, meet kettle.




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[Jamaaliver]

This isn't real, dude.

My wife's a teacher. These questionnaires are extremely common and Jesus/parents are the most prominent answers every year at every school in the country.

Bigger picture...these things are graded for content, grammar and completion.

Public school teachers don't care who you choose. Just that you complete the assignment.

The picture is literally a lie. A fabrication. A falsehood to rile up one group of Americans against another group.

Throughout history issues of race, economics and religion have always been manipulated to distract the masses from larger more pressing issues in front of you.

This is a perfect example.

Everyone not named SD20 figured that out, sharing stuff from James Woods has pitfalls.

Every single one of you guys call that shooter a white supremacist 3 days ago.

Pots, meet kettle.

I don't know what this means.

I haven't called anyone that.

I would simply plead for empathy, man. Be smart on what you hear/read.

There are forces actively trying to turn us against one another.

Don't let them.

[stilldropin20]

I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

The right to bear arms is outdated and ridiculous to me. Gun is a tool to kill, how is that the right for everyone to have such a thing? Makes zero sense to me. Its not a basic right like some Americans act, voting is basic and no brainer right, owning a killing tool is just completely different, What if constitution said you can own mass destruction weapon, would you act like its a basic right too, give me a break?
And don't go at me and say that crazies would get guns illegally, laws wouldnt change a thing just effect law-abiding citizens. Bull ****, as I said I live in a country with very strict gun laws, we dont have guns around, we dont feel like we have less rights that way, and guess what, gun laws parallelly effects illegal gun availability. We dont have black markets, we cant steal guns from others, because just nobody has it. The easiest way to get a gun for me would probably be trying to rob a policemen if I think about it. In America, I imagine it would be way way easier to get a gun, even if I couldn't get it legally.
If you think you wouldn't feel safe in home if you had no gun, I dont know what to say, but I think you get it backwards. If I knew all my neighbours and acquaintances had guns or had easy way of getting one, I wouldn't feel safe at all. Owning gun myself wouldn't change that. I feel much safer knowing we dont have guns around.

American gun laws are absurd, and I am amazed that sensible Americans haven't overthrown these gun nuts who are holding on to their absurd right. I truly believe that the reason why America has those particular laws are because of nut people, not because of ordinary people. Some immature jerks just have fetish for guns, I do not believe that they believe having those laws and rights makes America better, they are just selfish, they dont care for others, they only care for themselves! Look, I am a man, I understand the fetish for guns, when I was a kid, we all had king cobras that shoot bennies, we all had that stuff, it was fun shooting things and pretend you are Rambo or something, but sometime you must grow up. How many more mass shootings will it take?

Hey buddy, thank you for this post. This post really touched my heart.

I am especially moved by your call to action for all of us to care about each other more. I went through a time that was very difficult and I spoke to some professionals about it and it helped me very much. So I was hoping maybe in your country you have access to some professionals that you can speak to about these thoughts that you are having?


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[stilldropin20]

Everyone not named SD20 figured that out, sharing stuff from James Woods has pitfalls.

Every single one of you guys call that shooter a white supremacist 3 days ago.

Pots, meet kettle.

I don't know what this means.

I haven't called anyone that.

I would simply plead for empathy, man. Be smart on what you hear/read.

There are forces actively trying to turn us against one another.

Don't let them.

I agree 100%. I’ve been calling for everyone to wake up and see things for what they really are from months in this thread. And we have two or three posters that she just can’t lay off their talking points every single day on the hour on the half every 15 minutes blah blah blah blah blah.

Politicians will not change until we change. until we stop arguing with each other and come back to them with a consolidated message.

I’ve been begging for liberals to learn how to negotiate using logic and reason and stop using emotions. it’s impossible to negotiate based on emotions.


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[Jamaaliver]

I’ve been begging for liberals to learn how to Occie negotiate that mind with logic with sour arguments and stop using emotions. it’s impossible to negotiate based on emotions.

[montestewart]

This isn't real, dude.

My wife's a teacher. These questionnaires are extremely common and Jesus/parents are the most prominent answers every year at every school in the country.

Bigger picture...these things are graded for content, grammar and completion.

Public school teachers don't care who you choose. Just that you complete the assignment.

The picture is literally a lie. A fabrication. A falsehood to rile up one group of Americans against another group.

Throughout history issues of race, economics and religion have always been manipulated to distract the masses from larger more pressing issues in front of you.

This is a perfect example.

Everyone not named SD20 figured that out, sharing stuff from James Woods has pitfalls.

Every single one of you guys call that shooter a white supremacist 3 days ago.

Pots, meet kettle.

Yo pots, what about us gals?

[cammac]

I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

Don't do it my man

UcanWill does post on Raptors Board.....yes we all have had black times in our lives sure there are suicide hotlines in Lithuania. If not have a friend who is a lawyer in Lithuania and is a compassionate person.
But you make a solid point in the gun laws.
I grew up with guns at one time owned 3 but 2 were a 222 single short and a 410 shot gun single shot used for hunting or target practice had a 20 gauge pump for ducks. But quit hunting at 20 sold the guns.

[queridiculo]

I think that the country is split on this issue... I agree with Zonk on this one - a nice tax per gun would be helpful. Having to pass a test like a driving test would be fine too. But - nothing is going to change until these numbers change.

Gun safety classes should be something both sides agree on. That's supposedly one of the purposes of the NRA - to promote gun safety. And they could be involved in making and providing the tests and classes.

The guns per capita statistics suggest that there's more guns than citizens in this country, I just don't see how anything but an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment is going to make a difference here.

[Jamaaliver]

The guns per capita statistics suggest that there's more guns than citizens in this country, I just don't see how anything but an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment is going to make a difference here.

Man...if we even speak of repeal the 2nd amendment and we'll see another civil war in this country.

Those...crazy, armed militias have been prepping for that day for decades.

Pass the bill preventing new automatic weapons from being sold legally and a generation from now we'll see change.

[dckingsfan]

I think that the country is split on this issue... I agree with Zonk on this one - a nice tax per gun would be helpful. Having to pass a test like a driving test would be fine too. But - nothing is going to change until these numbers change.

Gun safety classes should be something both sides agree on. That's supposedly one of the purposes of the NRA - to promote gun safety. And they could be involved in making and providing the tests and classes.

The guns per capita statistics suggest that there's more guns than citizens in this country, I just don't see how anything but an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment is going to make a difference here.

Or that you have to have license to have a gun(s). If not, then they can be seized?

[cammac]

Even Paul Ryan admits that the Repugnant Party was fully informed about the Russian meddling in the election but choose not to be bipartisan because it was a positive for them. In fact they utilized the propaganda that the Russians contributed.

The Republican Party and its use of Russian disinformation.

In recent weeks the public has learned a great deal more about how extensive the Russian disinformation campaign was last year. And just yesterday, the new CIA Director, Mike Pompeo, once again confirmed that Wikileaks acted on behalf of Russia last year and warned that people promoting its materials could be doing the bidding of a hostile foreign power.

s Paul Ryan recently said, "We all knew this before the election. We all knew Russia was trying to meddle with our election." The CIA briefed Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell about the Russian campaign in September.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743380/-Paul-Ryan-We-all-knew-this-before-the-election-and-we-didn-t-care

[closg00]

Every single one of you guys call that shooter a white supremacist 3 days ago.

Pots, meet kettle.


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Deplorables had claimed him as one of their-own and he was photographed with a MAGA hat so it was entirely believable.
Point taken though, you gotta fact-check, I wish you would