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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1521 » by Dat2U » Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:43 pm

Dat2U wrote:My QB rankings

1. Willis
2. Corral
3. Zappe
4. Ridder

No one else is high on my board. I view Pickett, Howell & Strong as backup types.

At 11, i want Willis (despite trading for Wentz) or DT Jordan Davis (likely best prospect on the board).


Who else had Bailey Zappe as the 3rd best QB in the draft? Who else had him above Pickett, Howell & Strong? I literally watched highlights where he showed great touch on his outside throws and excellent pocket presence and then I checked his birthdate. That's all i needed to see to know he could play in the NFL.
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Post#1522 » by dobrojim » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:35 pm

OT1H, it would be nice to have a decent competent team to follow.
I've been bereft of that since 83 when the Colts left Balt.
(WSH did have a quality Org in the 80s)
OTOH, do I really want to root for a Dan Snyder run organization? I think not.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1523 » by keynote » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:34 pm

I hope the Commanders hire a young Black offensive-minded coach to replace Riverboat. Why? To exploit the obvious market inefficiency caused by organizations too racist or too lazy to give such candidates the time of day. They will be tougher to find, since they won't have been groomed like the prototypical "whiz kids" who get their head start from nepotism. But they exist, and nobody else is bothering to look for them.

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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1524 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:47 am

keynote wrote:I hope the Commanders hire a young Black offensive-minded coach to replace Riverboat. Why? To exploit the obvious market inefficiency caused by organizations too racist or too lazy to give such candidates the time of day. They will be tougher to find, since they won't have been groomed like the prototypical "whiz kids" who get their head start from nepotism. But they exist, and nobody else is bothering to look for them.

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Interesting idea. Got some names?
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1525 » by keynote » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:54 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
keynote wrote:I hope the Commanders hire a young Black offensive-minded coach to replace Riverboat. Why? To exploit the obvious market inefficiency caused by organizations too racist or too lazy to give such candidates the time of day. They will be tougher to find, since they won't have been groomed like the prototypical "whiz kids" who get their head start from nepotism. But they exist, and nobody else is bothering to look for them.

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Interesting idea. Got some names?
The obvious bench is thin, because Black coaches don't get OC roles too often. Just Leftwich, Bieniemy, Pep Hamilton, and Marcus Brady. I would operate under the assumption that any Black OC is overqualified, since they had to beat out a number of sons, nephews, and godsons to get it.

I would hire Brian Johnson. Eagles QB coach. If he were White and the son of an NFL coach, he would have moribund franchises fighting over him.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1526 » by likwitdesi » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:14 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Dat2U wrote:My QB rankings

1. Willis
2. Corral
3. Zappe
4. Ridder

No one else is high on my board. I view Pickett, Howell & Strong as backup types.

At 11, i want Willis (despite trading for Wentz) or DT Jordan Davis (likely best prospect on the board).


Who else had Bailey Zappe as the 3rd best QB in the draft? Who else had him above Pickett, Howell & Strong? I literally watched highlights where he showed great touch on his outside throws and excellent pocket presence and then I checked his birthdate. That's all i needed to see to know he could play in the NFL.


I liked Zappe but the reason no one had him in the top 3 is because it is obvious his ceiling is high end backup. Patriots took him in the right spot on Day 3. I feel this team made a major mistake not finding a way to get Willis in rd 3.
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Post#1527 » by likwitdesi » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:26 pm

keynote wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
keynote wrote:I hope the Commanders hire a young Black offensive-minded coach to replace Riverboat. Why? To exploit the obvious market inefficiency caused by organizations too racist or too lazy to give such candidates the time of day. They will be tougher to find, since they won't have been groomed like the prototypical "whiz kids" who get their head start from nepotism. But they exist, and nobody else is bothering to look for them.

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Interesting idea. Got some names?
The obvious bench is thin, because Black coaches don't get OC roles too often. Just Leftwich, Bieniemy, Pep Hamilton, and Marcus Brady. I would operate under the assumption that any Black OC is overqualified, since they had to beat out a number of sons, nephews, and godsons to get it.

I would hire Brian Johnson. Eagles QB coach. If he were White and the son of an NFL coach, he would have moribund franchises fighting over him.


Leftwich has not done a good job this year, Bienemy does not really excite anyone and Pep Hamilton’s star has really cooled over the past decade unfortunately. If we had to go with one of the three, Pep would easily be my guy. Don’t know much about Brady or Johnson

The guy I really like is Ben Johnson of the Lions. Really impressed with what he is doing with a lack of talent. Former UNC QB w degrees in math and computer science. When you look at his career, he has survived regime changes twice (when Gase took over in Miami and when Campbell took over in Detroit, although he had worked with Campbell in Miami)
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1528 » by Dat2U » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:52 pm

likwitdesi wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Dat2U wrote:My QB rankings

1. Willis
2. Corral
3. Zappe
4. Ridder

No one else is high on my board. I view Pickett, Howell & Strong as backup types.

At 11, i want Willis (despite trading for Wentz) or DT Jordan Davis (likely best prospect on the board).


Who else had Bailey Zappe as the 3rd best QB in the draft? Who else had him above Pickett, Howell & Strong? I literally watched highlights where he showed great touch on his outside throws and excellent pocket presence and then I checked his birthdate. That's all i needed to see to know he could play in the NFL.


I liked Zappe but the reason no one had him in the top 3 is because it is obvious his ceiling is high end backup. Patriots took him in the right spot on Day 3. I feel this team made a major mistake not finding a way to get Willis in rd 3.


Not every draft is loaded with high level starters. Its generally regarded as a weak QB draft. I only saw two QB that were potential starters to me.

Tbh, i like Zappe more than I like Mac but I thought Mac was overdrafted last year (along with a few others)
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1529 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:43 am

likwitdesi wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Dat2U wrote:My QB rankings

1. Willis
2. Corral
3. Zappe
4. Ridder

No one else is high on my board. I view Pickett, Howell & Strong as backup types.

At 11, i want Willis (despite trading for Wentz) or DT Jordan Davis (likely best prospect on the board).


Who else had Bailey Zappe as the 3rd best QB in the draft? Who else had him above Pickett, Howell & Strong? I literally watched highlights where he showed great touch on his outside throws and excellent pocket presence and then I checked his birthdate. That's all i needed to see to know he could play in the NFL.


I liked Zappe but the reason no one had him in the top 3 is because it is obvious his ceiling is high end backup. Patriots took him in the right spot on Day 3. I feel this team made a major mistake not finding a way to get Willis in rd 3.


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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1530 » by keynote » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:10 pm

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likwitdesi wrote:
keynote wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
Interesting idea. Got some names?

I would hire Brian Johnson. Eagles QB coach. If he were White and the son of an NFL coach, he would have moribund franchises fighting over him.


Don’t know much about Brady or Johnson


Johnson can rightfully claim some credit for Hurt's development. He also coached up Dak Prescott in college, and was hired to help infuse some innovation into the Eagles' offense.

The guy I really like is Ben Johnson of the Lions. Really impressed with what he is doing with a lack of talent. Former UNC QB w degrees in math and computer science. When you look at his career, he has survived regime changes twice (when Gase took over in Miami and when Campbell took over in Detroit, although he had worked with Campbell in Miami)

Ben Johnson looks to be your garden variety "OC on the rise"; if the Lions perform, he'll get an HC gig. Hiring Ben wouldn't exploit the market inefficiency I'm calling out, but it would certainly be defensible.
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1531 » by gambitx777 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:28 pm

I actually really like Sam Howell. I think we can be an above average QB! I at this point am fine putting him in place if Wentz continues to suck but at the end of the day the defence is the biggest issue not Wentz and not the offence.

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Post#1532 » by dobrojim » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:28 pm

How empty will Fedex field be on game days by around T'giving?
My guess is pretty darn empty. Fedex seats half again as
many people as RFK did. I wonder how often the attendance
matches what a capacity crowd at RFK was.

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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1533 » by Endless Loop » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:31 pm

If people really want Snyder gone, the process could get started in about 2 weeks.

But the owners will never pull it off.

The 100% certain best way is an effective fan boycott. Say, bring game attendance down to 1,000.

Yeah, I know most tix are season tickets so the financial impact wouldn't be as big as the attendance drop.

But the PR element shouldn't be underestimated. And the real financial impact would nevertheless be significant.

Anyway, going to the games now is implicitly a vote of support for Snyder. People shouldn't complain if they're supporting the guy.
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Post#1534 » by Wizardspride » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:32 pm

Read on Twitter
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Post#1535 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:28 pm

They’re one drive away from being 2-3.
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Post#1536 » by queridiculo » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:32 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:They’re one drive away from being 2-3.


They're one drive away from being 0-4.

Goes both ways, this is one awful team.
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Post#1537 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:50 pm

0-5

True. Awful
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Post#1538 » by queridiculo » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:04 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
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I'd expect this kind of dressing down from the Washington Post, but when ESPN is writing.a near 50k word essay on how big of an **** Dan Snyder is, things must be pretty dire for the littlest telemarketer.

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Post#1539 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:34 am

I’m watching this turrible game and I don’t know why
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Re: The Washington Football Team Thread 

Post#1540 » by queridiculo » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:06 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I’m watching this turrible game and I don’t know why


This is an 0-6 team, and those two fluke wins against Chicago and Jacksonville are likely what's going to keep Washington from securing a top three pick.

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