Political Roundtable Part XXII

[Pointgod]

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The whole Republican party is corrupt.

[Ruzious]

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Self-made billionaire Donald J Trump

I don't even know what to say....

And still managed to go bankrupt multiple times. So now he's funded by the Russians. Want to know why a supposed Billionaire needs to run scams like Trump University? Because his money doesn't belong to him.

There are so many crazy things involved here. I think the craziest is that Trump doesn't deny any of it. He's just furious that it was reported. And if the IRS investigates his father's gift and estate tax returns and they find the NYT article was correct, Trump and fam will owe many millions in tax and many millions in civil penalties. And... there could be even worse criminal penalties. If there wasn't so much going on - such as the Cavanaugh debacle and the Russia debacle and the UN debacle and any number of other debacles, this would be arguably historical level news, but we're so beaten down about Trump's dumps that it's just another day in the life.

And if the IRS Commish decides to investigate, we already know he'll be threatened with firing by Trump, so our system is already messed up before the fact.

[Wizardspride]

This is why people like Candace Owens and Kanye can go $%@#% themselves. Conservatism is evil. No sugar coating it.

To busy hanging out on the Republican plantation

[closg00]

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The whole Republican party is corrupt.

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

[Wizardspride]

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The whole Republican party is corrupt.

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

Obama's greatest strength was also his greatest weakness: His belief in the basic decency of his fellow man.

[dckingsfan]

Kanye's the same idiot who said slavery was a choice. Whenever he speeks, that comment overrules everything else he says. Btw, his performances last night sucked.

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

[Pointgod]

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The whole Republican party is corrupt.

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

Well let's be brutally honest. There's no way Obama would have been able to run roughshod over the opposition party like his white counterparts. The country is not for a black man to really flex the power of the Presidency. It also didn't help that members of his own party distanced themselves from him and Democratic voters couldn't be bothered to show up in off year elections. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have liked to have just done whatever he wanted but a country only works when both parties work together.

[Ruzious]

Kanye's the same idiot who said slavery was a choice. Whenever he speeks, that comment overrules everything else he says. Btw, his performances last night sucked.

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

Damn, my PC keeps having technical difficulties just as I'm about to post - particularly on my best posts. It went something like this: Nobody is completely right or wrong, but I feel fine saying Kanye is an idiot - though I could be convinced that moron is a better description of him. And remember when I'm posting, I'm representing me only - not a group or a label - just a guy - albeit a great guy who's nearly flawless and amazingly humble. There's no reason not to be honest with our views here - even if they may not be helpful in some cases.

[closg00]

The whole Republican party is corrupt.

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

Well let's be brutally honest. There's no way Obama would have been able to run roughshod over the opposition party like his white counterparts. The country is not for a black man to really flex the power of the Presidency. It also didn't help that members of his own party distanced themselves from him and Democratic voters couldn't be bothered to show up in off year elections. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have liked to have just done whatever he wanted but a country only works when both parties work together.

They came up to O and said they were going to steal his lunch money, O is like, Okay.

[dckingsfan]

Kanye's the same idiot who said slavery was a choice. Whenever he speeks, that comment overrules everything else he says. Btw, his performances last night sucked.

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

Damn, my PC keeps having technical difficulties just as I'm about to post - particularly on my best posts. It went something like this: Nobody is completely right or wrong, but I feel fine saying Kanye is an idiot - though I could be convinced that moron is a better description of him. And remember when I'm posting, I'm representing me only - not a group or a label - just a guy - albeit a great guy who's nearly flawless and amazingly humble. There's no reason not to be honest with our views here - even if they may not be helpful in some cases.

Damn, woulda been an HOF! Now here is HOF for you - I read to quickly - I thought you were referring to someone other than Kanye West I am

[stilldropin20]

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

Well let's be brutally honest. There's no way Obama would have been able to run roughshod over the opposition party like his white counterparts. The country is not for a black man to really flex the power of the Presidency. It also didn't help that members of his own party distanced themselves from him and Democratic voters couldn't be bothered to show up in off year elections. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have liked to have just done whatever he wanted but a country only works when both parties work together.

They came up to O and said they were going to steal his lunch money, O is like, Okay.

barrack Obama was a community organizer. A motivator. "A get out and vote guy." Like, essentially, a cheerleader. He was such a good organizer and cheerleader that his handlers, billionaire, Penny Pritzker decided he could become a senator and from there president. And there you have it.

The man was not ready to be president. He will go down as one of the 5 worst presidents of all time. He blew a super majority on an "affordable healthcare"plan that actually raised the cost of healthcare and raised taxes. <--when he could have addressed the cost drivers and made it more affordable. 12,000,000 americans lost their homes. 40,000,000 americansmore lost all of the equity in their homes or went negative equity. African american were hit especially hard. Unemployemt rates were around 10% for his entire 1st term and AA UE was around 16-17%. He was in over his head for any era. He was especially in over his head after the crash of 2008 where he not only let the banks off of the hook for extending themselves but he empowered them and bailed them out without a dime in return.

He was a good talker. that's it. He performed speeches well written by other people. The only worse presidents of the last 100 years are Woodrew wilson who signed into effect the federal reserve act which allowed foreign bankers to control our government from within and Jimmy carter who pushed and signed into effect the China One policy where those same foreign bankers began to exert their control over the US government with stangling interest rates near 20% to force Carter to cave. Yes, those same "bankers" that had already invested heavily into china and brought their World central banks to China as an emerging market just like they brought their banks (for good) to the US in 1913.

Worst all time:
1. Woodrew Wilson
2. Jimmy Carter
3. Barrack Obama

All 3 of them are traitors as far as I'm concerned.

[Wizardspride]

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[pancakes3]

Kanye's the same idiot who said slavery was a choice. Whenever he speeks, that comment overrules everything else he says. Btw, his performances last night sucked.

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

this is a bullsh*t gotcha and you know it.

1) nobody is saying that kanye is wholesale incorrect on every topic there ever was. the disagreement comes in his views on political partisanship slash race relations.

2) this isn't even a "shut up and dribble" situation. people aren't dismissing ye's comments because he's a rapper. they're dismissing kanye because he's an idiot. you can see this in the comments that Lebron's been catching flack from (from the President) v. Kanye's flack. Lebron spoke out against events - facts: travel ban, charlottesville, supporting GSW in declining to visit the WH, politicizing sports, etc. Kanye has said that he loves trump, loves his dragon energy, wears his hat and is bullied for supporting trump. there's substance to one of those, and not the other.

3) being advised to not wear a MAGA hat on someone else's show is not being bullied.

4) the blind man analogy is a terrible one anyway because it presumes that we have no baseline knowledge on cliffs. i have a baseline knowledge of trump and can corroborate my instincts that ye's wrong on this one. if he wants to give me pointers on how to mix beats, or driving directions in Chicago, i would hold his opinions in much higher esteem.

postscript: someone tell SD to stop posting about China bc he has no idea wtf he's talking about.

[dckingsfan]

Kanye's the same idiot who said slavery was a choice. Whenever he speeks, that comment overrules everything else he says. Btw, his performances last night sucked.

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

this is a bullsh*t gotcha and you know it.

1) nobody is saying that kanye is wholesale incorrect on every topic there ever was. the disagreement comes in his views on political partisanship slash race relations.

2) this isn't even a "shut up and dribble" situation. people aren't dismissing ye's comments because he's a rapper. they're dismissing kanye because he's an idiot. you can see this in the comments that Lebron's been catching flack from (from the President) v. Kanye's flack. Lebron spoke out against events - facts: travel ban, charlottesville, supporting GSW in declining to visit the WH, politicizing sports, etc. Kanye has said that he loves trump, loves his dragon energy, wears his hat and is bullied for supporting trump. there's substance to one of those, and not the other.

3) being advised to not wear a MAGA hat on someone else's show is not being bullied.

4) the blind man analogy is a terrible one anyway because it presumes that we have no baseline knowledge on cliffs. i have a baseline knowledge of trump and can corroborate my instincts that ye's wrong on this one. if he wants to give me pointers on how to mix beats, or driving directions in Chicago, i would hold his opinions in much higher esteem.

postscript: someone tell SD to stop posting about China bc he has no idea wtf he's talking about.

pancakes - I am a knucklehead on this one - I thought he was referencing someone else (not Kanye West). See above. I get the on this one.

[Ruzious]

So, there is a complete idiot standing next to you on the side of a cliff. You know he is an idiot but he also knows that there is a part of the cliff that you shouldn't stand on. You consider this and stand on that spot anyway and go off the cliff.

Very few people are completely right or wrong. He was certainly wrong when it came to slavery. We were stupid not to heed some of his advice and decided to stand on that bad part of the cliff.

Damn, my PC keeps having technical difficulties just as I'm about to post - particularly on my best posts. It went something like this: Nobody is completely right or wrong, but I feel fine saying Kanye is an idiot - though I could be convinced that moron is a better description of him. And remember when I'm posting, I'm representing me only - not a group or a label - just a guy - albeit a great guy who's nearly flawless and amazingly humble. There's no reason not to be honest with our views here - even if they may not be helpful in some cases.

Damn, woulda been an HOF! Now here is HOF for you - I read to quickly - I thought you were referring to someone other than Kanye West I am

Not a problem. And if I ever say that about our poster Kanye, then please feel free to call me out. He seems like a good guy.

[Pointgod]

The Turtle is a historical scumbag, they get away with it because once-again the Dems played nice. Obama should have made The Turtle pay a steep price for what they did to his SC pick. Obama WAS weak as his critics said.

Well let's be brutally honest. There's no way Obama would have been able to run roughshod over the opposition party like his white counterparts. The country is not for a black man to really flex the power of the Presidency. It also didn't help that members of his own party distanced themselves from him and Democratic voters couldn't be bothered to show up in off year elections. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have liked to have just done whatever he wanted but a country only works when both parties work together.

They came up to O and said they were going to steal his lunch money, O is like, Okay.

Absolutely Obama should have made a recess appointment. But even nominating Garland he tried to do the right thing. Where was the outrage from Republicans and Independents from the scumbag move McConnell pulled? Where was the outrage from Democrats during the election? Sure they're pissed about supreme Court seats now but where was the push to payback Republicans during the 2016 election? Democratic voters did less than the bare minimum and now are upset now that they're getting **** on.

[Ruzious]

Well let's be brutally honest. There's no way Obama would have been able to run roughshod over the opposition party like his white counterparts. The country is not for a black man to really flex the power of the Presidency. It also didn't help that members of his own party distanced themselves from him and Democratic voters couldn't be bothered to show up in off year elections. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have liked to have just done whatever he wanted but a country only works when both parties work together.

They came up to O and said they were going to steal his lunch money, O is like, Okay.

barrack Obama was a community organizer. A motivator. "A get out and vote guy." Like, essentially, a cheerleader. He was such a good organizer and cheerleader that his handlers, billionaire, Penny Pritzker decided he could become a senator and from there president. And there you have it.

The man was not ready to be president. He will go down as one of the 5 worst presidents of all time. He blew a super majority on an "affordable healthcare"plan that actually raised the cost of healthcare and raised taxes. <--when he could have addressed the cost drivers and made it more affordable. 12,000,000 americans lost their homes. 40,000,000 americansmore lost all of the equity in their homes or went negative equity. African american were hit especially hard. Unemployemt rates were around 10% for his entire 1st term and AA UE was around 16-17%. He was in over his head for any era. He was especially in over his head after the crash of 2008 where he not only let the banks off of the hook for extending themselves but he empowered them and bailed them out without a dime in return.

He was a good talker. that's it. He performed speeches well written by other people. The only worse presidents of the last 100 years are Woodrew wilson who signed into effect the federal reserve act which allowed foreign bankers to control our government from within and Jimmy carter who pushed and signed into effect the China One policy where those same foreign bankers began to exert their control over the US government with stangling interest rates near 20% to force Carter to cave. Yes, those same "bankers" that had already invested heavily into china and brought their World central banks to China as an emerging market just like they brought their banks (for good) to the US in 1913.

Worst all time:
1. Woodrew Wilson
2. Jimmy Carter
3. Barrack Obama

All 3 of them are traitors as far as I'm concerned.

It's like a crescendo - Start out slow and semi-reasonable, slowly build up the foolish gradually transitioning to absurdities, and then finish with aplomb going full on crazy. It's just like a towering Beethoven sonata. A work de arte... leaving out the f before arte.

[Kanyewest]

Damn, my PC keeps having technical difficulties just as I'm about to post - particularly on my best posts. It went something like this: Nobody is completely right or wrong, but I feel fine saying Kanye is an idiot - though I could be convinced that moron is a better description of him. And remember when I'm posting, I'm representing me only - not a group or a label - just a guy - albeit a great guy who's nearly flawless and amazingly humble. There's no reason not to be honest with our views here - even if they may not be helpful in some cases.

Damn, woulda been an HOF! Now here is HOF for you - I read to quickly - I thought you were referring to someone other than Kanye West I am

Not a problem. And if I ever say that about our poster Kanye, then please feel free to call me out. He seems like a good guy.

I really need to change my username.

[pancakes3]

lol, my b.

[dckingsfan]

Not a problem. And if I ever say that about our poster Kanye, then please feel free to call me out. He seems like a good guy.

Let's not tell him that - might swell his head