Political Roundtable Part XXXI

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ken,
Given that there is an aspect of actual indoctrination that comes with
military service, I would expand that requirement to others types
of public service as well. Military and law enforcement both *in some cases*
attract certain people for the wrong reasons, power trips.

Outstanding!

Should be MANDATORY military familiarity course and Mandatory optional COMMUNITY or PUBLIC service.

I totally agree with your expanded thoughts on very same concept.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Back in the day the PEACE CORPS was a very noble endeavor that I think is just as honorable as military service.

[doclinkin]

A robust public service Nursing initiative would help address nationwide shortages in staffing at hospitals. Likewise it seems to me a Teaching Corps might inject energy and help where it's needed.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

A robust public service Nursing initiative would help address nationwide shortages in staffing at hospitals. Likewise it seems to me a Teaching Corps might inject energy and help where it's needed.

Nursing corps
Teaching corps

There’s LOTS of master teachers a Skype or Zoom call away for ELDER advice. Mentor Guardian KUMU types

[dorianwrite]

MILITARY SERVICE SHOULD BE AS CLOSE to mandatory for ANY US CONGRESS or US SENATE position.)

Love ya buddy, and also I say "nonsense" to that. No man, we need smart principled people of every walk of life, who can understand the needs of the people they represent. This is not the United States of the Armed Forces. You want your laws written by the best and brightest and most forward-looking people. But you want a wide selection, more than one narrow field. I don't care if you are a college professor or air force captain or constitutional scholar or damn good lawyer. I want a slice of all of America so the needs of everybody get put in the spotlight.

Doesn't matter their background, you want smart people who bargain hard but cut good deals. Statesmen not ideologues. Yes I agree a former military guy like John McCain was principled enough to fight for his country AND knew when to compromise. He may have been on the opposite side of the aisle from my guys on most issues, but you never doubted that o the big issues he was doing what he thought was best for the country, more so than strictly working to feed his lobbyists.

Still, I appreciated a guy like Barney Frank, who did the same from the opposite perspective. You want pols who can recognize that we are all in it together. That they represent even the guy who didn't vote for them. And that they even protect people who vote against their best interests and don't really know what they want. Maybe that guy is military, but I don't care if you've been in a wheel chair your whole life and can't do a push-up. If you have damn good ideas and can rally people to vote for them, you're the guy I want in office.

John McCain was the scum of the earth. He looks good now only because of who one has to compare him to in the Republican Party.

[doclinkin]

MILITARY SERVICE SHOULD BE AS CLOSE to mandatory for ANY US CONGRESS or US SENATE position.)

Love ya buddy, and also I say "nonsense" to that. No man, we need smart principled people of every walk of life, who can understand the needs of the people they represent. This is not the United States of the Armed Forces. You want your laws written by the best and brightest and most forward-looking people. But you want a wide selection, more than one narrow field. I don't care if you are a college professor or air force captain or constitutional scholar or damn good lawyer. I want a slice of all of America so the needs of everybody get put in the spotlight.

Doesn't matter their background, you want smart people who bargain hard but cut good deals. Statesmen not ideologues. Yes I agree a former military guy like John McCain was principled enough to fight for his country AND knew when to compromise. He may have been on the opposite side of the aisle from my guys on most issues, but you never doubted that o the big issues he was doing what he thought was best for the country, more so than strictly working to feed his lobbyists.

Still, I appreciated a guy like Barney Frank, who did the same from the opposite perspective. You want pols who can recognize that we are all in it together. That they represent even the guy who didn't vote for them. And that they even protect people who vote against their best interests and don't really know what they want. Maybe that guy is military, but I don't care if you've been in a wheel chair your whole life and can't do a push-up. If you have damn good ideas and can rally people to vote for them, you're the guy I want in office.

John McCain was the scum of the earth. He looks good now only because of who one has to compare him to in the Republican Party.

Fair point. The scum of the earth looks better than the scum of Hades.

[dckingsfan]

A robust public service Nursing initiative would help address nationwide shortages in staffing at hospitals.

Likewise it seems to me a Teaching Corps might inject energy and help where it's needed.

Giving the epic fail that is coming - this is prescient. Our teachers and nurses are older and retiring, this on top of the shortages that we already have.

But let's be clear - right now we have no plan, nada, zero. This is going to get very messy and expensive.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

MILITARY SERVICE SHOULD BE AS CLOSE to mandatory for ANY US CONGRESS or US SENATE position.)

Love ya buddy, and also I say "nonsense" to that. No man, we need smart principled people of every walk of life, who can understand the needs of the people they represent. This is not the United States of the Armed Forces. You want your laws written by the best and brightest and most forward-looking people. But you want a wide selection, more than one narrow field. I don't care if you are a college professor or air force captain or constitutional scholar or damn good lawyer. I want a slice of all of America so the needs of everybody get put in the spotlight.

Doesn't matter their background, you want smart people who bargain hard but cut good deals. Statesmen not ideologues. Yes I agree a former military guy like John McCain was principled enough to fight for his country AND knew when to compromise. He may have been on the opposite side of the aisle from my guys on most issues, but you never doubted that o the big issues he was doing what he thought was best for the country, more so than strictly working to feed his lobbyists.

Still, I appreciated a guy like Barney Frank, who did the same from the opposite perspective. You want pols who can recognize that we are all in it together. That they represent even the guy who didn't vote for them. And that they even protect people who vote against their best interests and don't really know what they want. Maybe that guy is military, but I don't care if you've been in a wheel chair your whole life and can't do a push-up. If you have damn good ideas and can rally people to vote for them, you're the guy I want in office.

John McCain was the scum of the earth. He looks good now only because of who one has to compare him to in the Republican Party.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Love ya buddy, and also I say "nonsense" to that. No man, we need smart principled people of every walk of life, who can understand the needs of the people they represent. This is not the United States of the Armed Forces. You want your laws written by the best and brightest and most forward-looking people. But you want a wide selection, more than one narrow field. I don't care if you are a college professor or air force captain or constitutional scholar or damn good lawyer. I want a slice of all of America so the needs of everybody get put in the spotlight.

Doesn't matter their background, you want smart people who bargain hard but cut good deals. Statesmen not ideologues. Yes I agree a former military guy like John McCain was principled enough to fight for his country AND knew when to compromise. He may have been on the opposite side of the aisle from my guys on most issues, but you never doubted that o the big issues he was doing what he thought was best for the country, more so than strictly working to feed his lobbyists.

Still, I appreciated a guy like Barney Frank, who did the same from the opposite perspective. You want pols who can recognize that we are all in it together. That they represent even the guy who didn't vote for them. And that they even protect people who vote against their best interests and don't really know what they want. Maybe that guy is military, but I don't care if you've been in a wheel chair your whole life and can't do a push-up. If you have damn good ideas and can rally people to vote for them, you're the guy I want in office.

John McCain was the scum of the earth. He looks good now only because of who one has to compare him to in the Republican Party.

Fair point. The scum of the earth looks better than the scum of Hades.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

John McCain

The Admiral's son

wow, guys i am conflicted on how to feel about that dude

1st - Donald Trump never served and it made my blood boil hearing him criticize not only a veteran but a former POW--f trump on that

2nd- But then again... My dad (CW4 Thomas Holmes, buried at Arlington, US Army Aviator with two combat tours Vietnam) SAID TO ME, KENNETH MAYBE there's are reason the guy was downed a couple times and taken prisoner.... hmmm

3rd-I saw the gentleman and the respect that McCain showed people who disagreed with him. He had a lot of Democrat friends

4th- OTOH He sure didn't want Arizona celebrating no Martin Luther coon day. Oops. MLK Holiday took a while in AZ

5th- ANOTHER DAMN STUPID was how McCain thought MMA was barbaric to the point he vigorously lobbied against UFC and other organizations

MY CONCLUSIONS
I would NOT use the scum

I prefer doofus or entitled, spoiled, whatever. Same as I feel about Wes Jr. the coach. I know that guy wouldn't be there without his daddy's name. WHAT HE IS DOING IMO IS AKIN TO COACHING MALPRACTICE.

I wish the rich sons a bitches could see how i live. LOL

God is good all the time.

I have ONE MANs opinion

that is all

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Oh, yeah that time McCain crashed on the carrier and killed a few guys...

That was before being taken POW
Before being elected to Congress

What's that song Rod Stewart sings? Some guys have all the (luck?)

[dobrojim]

back on the energy thing, a couple days ago I came across this talk which is long (90 min)
but also only 4 months old so much more up to date than many of the things I've seen
from Lovins in the past. That said I've found him to be remarkably prescient when I've
gone back and watched talks that he's given 10-20 years ago.

I think all our elected officials, or at least any of them that have anything to do with energy
policy, ought to be required to hear a presentation from Lovins.

I especially like the part in this talk where Lovins points out that Putin fducked himself
as far as Russia's future of their economy relying on sell gas/oil to foreign countries.

But the thing that I find most interesting, convincing and encouraging about him is
that he talks about things that are real, that have happened and what those trends
portend for the future. If you FF to about 45 minutes into it, Lovins gets into some
of the things we discussed here a page or 2 ago.

The title of this long wide ranging talk covering a wide range of energy issues is:

Disruptive Energy Futures: The Economy and Resilient Energy Supplies

Watch on YouTube

[dckingsfan]

Spoiler:

back on the energy thing, a couple days ago I came across this talk which is long (90 min)
but also only 4 months old so much more up to date than many of the things I've seen
from Lovins in the past. That said I've found him to be remarkably prescient when I've
gone back and watched talks that he's given 10-20 years ago.

I think all our elected officials, or at least any of them that have anything to do with energy
policy, ought to be required to hear a presentation from Lovins.

I especially like the part in this talk where Lovins points out that Putin fducked himself
as far as Russia's future of their economy relying on sell gas/oil to foreign countries.

But the thing that I find most interesting, convincing and encouraging about him is
that he talks about things that are real, that have happened and what those trends
portend for the future. If you FF to about 45 minutes into it, Lovins gets into some
of the things we discussed here a page or 2 ago.

The title of this long wide ranging talk covering a wide range of energy issues is:

Disruptive Energy Futures: The Economy and Resilient Energy Supplies

Watch on YouTube

Nice post. Check out his graph at 1:10. Note the date at the bottom right hand corner is 2050. Natural gas hardly moves.

One other thing that he "understates" is the utilities ability to disrupt the disruption by not paying those that put on rooftop solar.

And the other disrupters:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/end-solar-power-opponents-prevail-williamsport-ohio/story?id=95752351

Brilliant guy though.

[Wizardspride]

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What Jesus would do. As horrible as this is, I don’t know why the VPs office hasn’t turned this into a press opportunity to hammer Republicans. Work with local faith communities and humanitarian groups to get these people help but also highlight how depraved Republicans are for just dumping people off without any type of assistance or help.

[bsilver]

MILITARY SERVICE SHOULD BE AS CLOSE to mandatory for ANY US CONGRESS or US SENATE position.)

Love ya buddy, and also I say "nonsense" to that. No man, we need smart principled people of every walk of life, who can understand the needs of the people they represent. This is not the United States of the Armed Forces. You want your laws written by the best and brightest and most forward-looking people. But you want a wide selection, more than one narrow field. I don't care if you are a college professor or air force captain or constitutional scholar or damn good lawyer. I want a slice of all of America so the needs of everybody get put in the spotlight.

Doesn't matter their background, you want smart people who bargain hard but cut good deals. Statesmen not ideologues. Yes I agree a former military guy like John McCain was principled enough to fight for his country AND knew when to compromise. He may have been on the opposite side of the aisle from my guys on most issues, but you never doubted that o the big issues he was doing what he thought was best for the country, more so than strictly working to feed his lobbyists.

Still, I appreciated a guy like Barney Frank, who did the same from the opposite perspective. You want pols who can recognize that we are all in it together. That they represent even the guy who didn't vote for them. And that they even protect people who vote against their best interests and don't really know what they want. Maybe that guy is military, but I don't care if you've been in a wheel chair your whole life and can't do a push-up. If you have damn good ideas and can rally people to vote for them, you're the guy I want in office.

John McCain was the scum of the earth. He looks good now only because of who one has to compare him to in the Republican Party.

That's pretty offensive, and I'm a democrat. Some of us are here to have civil discussions.

[bsilver]

Back in the day the PEACE CORPS was a very noble endeavor that I think is just as honorable as military service.

My daughter was in the Peace Corps in Chad. Unfortunately had to evacuate after a coup attempt, and went back later to South Africa. Teaching English in Chad, average class size was 100 for middle schoolers. That took bravery that I didn't have. A great experience.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I taught NEGRO middle schoolers in Phenix City, AL. It took inordinate patience with administrator who felt threatened by my FAR SUPERIOR quality of both military and education experience compared with his.

Teaching Algebra to eighth graders who really lacked fundamental basic math skills was a bit of a daunting task. Black boys in that culture where WHO YO DADDY and No home phone was common. Worse, I was 45 and had military rigid plus was spoiled by RESPECTING Polynesian and Asian and white kids on Oahu. I was too rigid, tired from no spouse and with stressors of spouse being in a very active war zone.

Plus my bipolar didn’t help. Nope not one bit.

I actually was successful in raising the standardized math test performance but I Failed Miserably and ended up stepping down After a lot of resistance from that principal….

No regrets

SUBSTITUTE TEACHING works out much better for me and my temperament.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Hope your Holiday Season has been healthy and peaceful.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Teaching isn’t for everyone

I never had problems in Hawaii or in Alabama save for that time when my kids were very young and was raising them alone as my very unfaithful ex-wife got it on and advanced her own agendas.
—Wife in iraq
—Three small kids logistics one struggling to write. Toughest part was being mom and dad w low energy and no time to chill.
— as 1st year Grade 8 AL math teacher; I had 108 kids but absolutely no paraprofessional assistance . Grading papers was a bear.

Then vs now

That was over 15 years ago—and I since returned to sub QUITE SUCCESSFULLY here in Hawaii. I love passing on love, wisdom and delivering a lesson plan designed by a full time teacher who needs relief.

Subbing is like being a relief pitcher or a placeholder or a guest speaker. It’s FUN.