2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[closg00]

Big congrats to Ernie for doing a successful stash, now we get to see if Sato can play in the NBA. Coach Brooks really has his work cut out for him.

[gambitx777]

Geebuz, what happened? Traveling in Europe, went to bed last night with visions of Al Horford in Chinatown dancing in my head. Instead, wtf?

Wall, Burke
Beal, Sato
Porter, Oubre
'Splief, Nicolson
Marc, Yawn

Looks very much like a 28 win team to me.

That team is not sniffing .500

It's mostly cast offs plus Wall

How, again, does Grunfield have a job.

I get it loosing out on two big names stings.b it come on. This is not a bad team. We are already better than last year. He have a better HC, beal should be healthy, Kelly should be better. Ian is better than nene, nicholson is better than gooden or Dudley as a mall 4, I think burke is better than sessions , Sato is on par with beal imo and better than any other wing or guard on the team last year not named wall. It's not what we wanted but it's not terrible.

[80sballboy]

True, he can improve... how much would be the question. Sessions wasn't bad at all last season. Save for spacing the floor with the 3 ball and his defense Sessions was great last season. I thought Burke could be a decent offensive player coming out of college but the fact he got supplanted in Utah, a team devoid of PGs is kind of foreboding...

Sessions is a shoot-first point guard and sure, if you take away his poor three-point shooting, lack of passing and defense, he was great last season. Burke is pretty similar, maybe a better passer and similar defensively. But he is younger and with Sato, he might fit decently, though they could still use another 2 guard or combo who can defend to play with Sato.

Sessions assist: TO ratio was decent... i don't really fault him as a playmaker off the bench. He did his job there. And the fact he didn't take much 3 pt shots was ameliorated with how many FTs he drew. Where he really regressed was defense I believe. Burke has a lot of incentive to improve. His biggest areas to improve are shot selection I think. Sessions was a good mid range shooter, Burke is not. So either Burke fixes his shot selection or shot itself.

Wittman was forced to use Beal as the creator on offense with the second team. That's part of the reason why the 2nd unit was so bad without Wall. Sesh was wonderful at driving to the basket and scoring or forcing fouls. He rarely created for others. But he was adequate as a backup and maybe Burke has a slightly higher upside because he's younger. For the price and salary, he's fine. Burke at least now has Sato to help initiate.

[80sballboy]

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I'm quite happy that we'll finally get to see Sato in action -- and on a very cheap deal to boot. I thought we'd have to try to find the next Temple in the D-League on the minimum (6'6", reasonable athlete, defender w/ average handles, jumper "in progress"). But now, maybe we have a shot at affording an Alan Anderson type.

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Yeah, I'd rather have Curry + a 2nd rounder in 2021 than Burke -- especially if Curry were willing to accept a 2-3 year deal for $2-3M per. That being said: Burke has more upside. If Brooks can help unlock some of that untapped potential, we'll be in good shape.

[nuposse04]

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Prolly missed the boat on this one, oh well. Don't really get why SAC took temple over Curry O_o

[gambitx777]

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Yeah, I'd rather have Curry + a 2nd rounder in 2021 than Burke -- especially if Curry were willing to accept a 2-3 year deal for $2-3M per.

We still have a guard spot open and money to get curry, why not still sign him . You can never have to many shooters.

[Dat2U]

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Yeah, I'd rather have Curry + a 2nd rounder in 2021 than Burke -- especially if Curry were willing to accept a 2-3 year deal for $2-3M per.

Oh wow, WTF are the Kings doing. Aldrich at half the price of Mahinmi, Amr Johnson in a trade from Boston, Satoransky & Seth Curry would have been my ideal off-season after missing out on Horford. Any chance we can still make a move on Curry? Burke is more of a 3rd string anyway.

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Yeah, I'd rather have Curry + a 2nd rounder in 2021 than Burke -- especially if Curry were willing to accept a 2-3 year deal for $2-3M per.

Oh wow, WTF are the Kings doing. Aldrich at half the price of Mahinmi, Amr Johnson in a trade from Boston, Satoransky & Seth Curry would have been my ideal off-season after missing out on Horford. Any chance we can still make a move on Curry? Burke is more of a 3rd string anyway.

They're a little too redundant, IMHO. They're both scoring PGs who are works in progress on the defensive end. We could get away with having one designated spot-up shooter (a Kerr/Paxson type) and one defensive dog (a Beverly/Randy Brown type), but it's hard to justify carrying two of one and none of the other. And isn't Jarell "Lintsanity" Eddie our designated spot-up specialist?

I think we'll either go for a veteran 3-D swingman, or a defensive-minded Swiss Army-knife type to replace Temple.

[JWizmentality]

This team is looking very underwhelming. It's John Wall, the polish ballerina, glass man, Garrett temple's doppelganger, and weed on a plane. Ugh

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[Dat2U]

Yeah, I'd rather have Curry + a 2nd rounder in 2021 than Burke -- especially if Curry were willing to accept a 2-3 year deal for $2-3M per.

Oh wow, WTF are the Kings doing. Aldrich at half the price of Mahinmi, Amr Johnson in a trade from Boston, Satoransky & Seth Curry would have been my ideal off-season after missing out on Horford. Any chance we can still make a move on Curry? Burke is more of a 3rd string anyway.

They're a little too redundant, IMHO. They're both scoring PGs who are works in progress on the defensive end. We could get away with having one designated spot-up shooter (a Kerr/Paxson type) and one defensive dog (a Beverly/Randy Brown type), but it's hard to justify carrying two of one and none of the other. And isn't Jarell "Lintsanity" Eddie our designated spot-up specialist?

I think we'll either go for a veteran 3-D swingman, or a defensive-minded Swiss Army-knife type to replace Temple.

Yeah I hear you but I personally would not be making roster decisions based on a guy like Burke, who like I said in the other thread, could be out of the league in another year or two. People loved to call Temple a great 12th man, well Burke is a great 16th man in my opinion.

[gambitx777]

We have 3 spots open. I'm counting McAllen and white as locks for spots. Sign curry and use the other two spots on a wing and another center. Let curry and Burke Duke it out for the spot. Curry is a bit better in D than burke and a better passer imo. We still have cap room and our exception left over.

[nate33]

I get it loosing out on two big names stings.b it come on. This is not a bad team. We are already better than last year. He have a better HC, Beal should be healthy, Kelly should be better. Ian is better than nene, nicholson is better than gooden or Dudley as a mall 4, I think burke is better than sessions , Sato is on par with beal imo and better than any other wing or guard on the team last year not named wall. It's not what we wanted but it's not terrible.

[80sballboy]

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Oh wow, WTF are the Kings doing. Aldrich at half the price of Mahinmi, Amr Johnson in a trade from Boston, Satoransky & Seth Curry would have been my ideal off-season after missing out on Horford. Any chance we can still make a move on Curry? Burke is more of a 3rd string anyway.

They're a little too redundant, IMHO. They're both scoring PGs who are works in progress on the defensive end. We could get away with having one designated spot-up shooter (a Kerr/Paxson type) and one defensive dog (a Beverly/Randy Brown type), but it's hard to justify carrying two of one and none of the other. And isn't Jarell "Lintsanity" Eddie our designated spot-up specialist?

I think we'll either go for a veteran 3-D swingman, or a defensive-minded Swiss Army-knife type to replace Temple.

Yeah I hear you but I personally would not be making roster decisions based on a guy like Burke, who like I said in the other thread, could be out of the league in another year or two. People loved to call Temple a great 12th man, well Burke is a great 16th man in my opinion.

Good point. Burke is a gamble, no question: higher ceiling, lower floor. Best-case scenario: Sato adjusts quickly and takes all of the minutes at 3rd guard *and* 3rd SF, so that we don't need a Temple/Anderson type. But if Sato struggles out of the gate, then we'll only have Sato, Porter, and Oubre to defend swingmen. Are we better off with an emergency 3-D veteran off the bench, or a spot-up shooting backup PG who'll push Burke for the 4th guard role?

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Actually, hmm. I don't see Seth choosing us, unless we give him a slightly above-market deal (or unless he whiffs everywhere else). He apparently asked to be let out of his deal in SAC because the backcourt had become too crowded. In DC, he'd be sharing the backcourt with Wall, Beal, Sato, and Burke. He's got a good shot of beating out Burke, to be sure. But he's probably going to target teams where he's got a better shot at landing the 3rd guard slot.

[gambitx777]

I get it loosing out on two big names stings.b it come on. This is not a bad team. We are already better than last year. He have a better HC, Beal should be healthy, Kelly should be better. Ian is better than nene, nicholson is better than gooden or Dudley as a mall 4, I think burke is better than sessions , Sato is on par with beal imo and better than any other wing or guard on the team last year not named wall. It's not what we wanted but it's not terrible.

We have Sato now, let beal go out for the year and watch Sato make the all star game his first year in the league as a starter!

[80sballboy]

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[gambitx777]

I would be fine with Curry, Cole or Sloan, we did not give up enough for burke to be garrunted the job, let him fight it out with some one . A wing I am ok with rolling with Eddie or some guy from our summer team, but bud is going to cost a good bit, rush and Anderson I can live with but I'd rather go young. But I understand the need for a vet wing. I think white and McClellan are on the team for sure.