Political Roundtable Part XVI

[Pointgod]

The Trump show is toxic and Americans tired of it quickly, the only thing that can save him is a war and he would love to have one.
I do expect his approval rating to finally get out of the 30's if they can sell the tax plan as something good for most American's, but everyone knows that the plan favors the donor class and the wealthy, the plan is as unpopular as Trump.

Trump was a divisive candidate and now president. So his approval rating was never going to be above 48%.

Trump is a love or hate president. Just the way it is. 35-40% is actually his high water mark because he doesn't mince words and is not a politician.

Seasoned politicians however are really good at mincing words and selling his dirty deals to the american public. I am quite happy Trump is not one of those types of presidents and i take his 32% approval with that grain of salt.

The other grain of salt is the far left liberal hysteria over trump. Started with taxes gate, then Trump holdings gate, then Russia collusion gate For 12 months), then obstruction(of collusion which doesn't exist), then back to puxxy gate, now on to net neutrality gate. main stream media has had as high as a 96% negative "news" coverage and averages 91% negative. So there's that grain of salt as well.

The left simply doesn't like trump and will give him no credit for anything. liberal represent nearly 60% of the country. so 40% approval ratings is about as high as trump can go.

Dude!!! Come-one, Liberals do not make-up 60% of the U.S.

SD20 is absolutely clueless. Trumps approval rating has dropped even among Republicans. He's easily the most misinformed poster on this board.

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Trump is a sneaky lying weasel. If his policies were so popular, why does he and the republicans always try and hurriedly do secret votes when they think the American people aren't paying attention?

Pathetic.

[stilldropin20]

Trump was a divisive candidate and now president. So his approval rating was never going to be above 48%.

Trump is a love or hate president. Just the way it is. 35-40% is actually his high water mark because he doesn't mince words and is not a politician.

Seasoned politicians however are really good at mincing words and selling his dirty deals to the american public. I am quite happy Trump is not one of those types of presidents and i take his 32% approval with that grain of salt.

The other grain of salt is the far left liberal hysteria over trump. Started with taxes gate, then Trump holdings gate, then Russia collusion gate For 12 months), then obstruction(of collusion which doesn't exist), then back to puxxy gate, now on to net neutrality gate. main stream media has had as high as a 96% negative "news" coverage and averages 91% negative. So there's that grain of salt as well.

The left simply doesn't like trump and will give him no credit for anything. liberal represent nearly 60% of the country. so 40% approval ratings is about as high as trump can go.

Dude!!! Come-one, Liberals do not make-up 60% of the U.S.

SD20 is absolutely clueless. Trumps approval rating has dropped even among Republicans. He's easily the most misinformed poster on this board.

SD20 is waaaaay out in front of almost everything we talk about.

here we go. something ive been talking about for weeks. WaPo caught on. here is your 2018 election, right here.

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this video is good.

watch all the way through.

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[Pointgod]

https://apnews.com/675f2537403a4d2cb8ed643711c5c196/Will-US-companies-put-overseas-cash-to-work?-Don%27t-bet-on-it

Remarks from some of the companies themselves — as well as economic history — suggest that the payoff for the nation will be a meager one. The companies seem likely to direct their money mainly to shareholders through dividends and stock buybacks, just as large U.S. corporations have already been doing with the ample cash they have in hand.

At an industry conference last week, Amy Hood, Microsoft’s chief financial officer, acknowledged that the tax changes wouldn’t drive business decisions on whether to make an acquisition or build a data center.

Don’t expect that “I’m going to spend a lot more capital” Hood said when asked what Microsoft would do with its windfall, according to a company transcript.

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Republicans and Trump reinventing the swamp, adding a provision in the tax bill that benefits Trump, AFTER votes had been secured to ensure passage. Appalling
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/donald-trump-gop-leaders-could-be-enriched-last-minute-tax-break-inserted-final

[Wizardspride]

@sd20


I've noticed you've been posting tweets from black/minority conservatives lately.

Is there some underlying reason or are they just random tweets?

[cammac]

I am the 1st. to acknowledge that I am very left wing on social issues in Canada and that I haven't a problem with increasing our social network. Canada is a rich country and we have been blessed and I agree with a statement made by Hubert Humphrey.

“It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “

I also believe that government isn't a unending well of funds and that fiscal restraint is important that debt isn't passed on to future generations. Canada has done a credible job in this area and could do more. I am blessed and am willing to pay more in taxes since on average I pay a lower % of tax than most working class Canadians.

Frankly there isn't a reason that the current Canadian government couldn't have a balanced budget or a surplus. The only area I believe a deficit should be contemplated is on infrastructure where it could be like a mortgage amortized over 20 years.

I was asked by popper to educate him on universal healthcare and his 1st response was to condemn it with frankly some drivel. He asked for a personal experience and I told him and I told him about my cardiac incident. I haven't heard backs but other posters indicated in the USA I might be dead or that my medical insurer would decline the procedure.

The only negative was from SD20 in that I was feeding from the public trough but then again he believes it is fine to do medical procedure's for cash thus defrauding IRS and regular tax payers

[montestewart]

@sd20


I've noticed you've been posting tweets from black/minority conservatives lately.

Is there some underlying reason or are they just random tweets?

Quotes from black conservatives, quotes from right-wing/Republican guest columnists in the Post or the Times, and similar devices are intended to give a superficial "see, even your side agrees with me" veneer to what he says.

[stilldropin20]

@sd20


I've noticed you've been posting tweets from black/minority conservatives lately.

Is there some underlying reason or are they just random tweets?

who? larry elder and Sheriff clarke? Those guys are awesome. You should follow them. They are extremely courageous and phenomenal leaders. Elder retweated something from Candace Owens a few weeks back and I started following her too. I think she is going to catch fire. Hers was the last video, pretty good huh? even if you disagree with the message? I think she is very talented. And I think Diamond and Silk have done a good job making head way with their style as well. Entertaining and getting their message across well. Elder is my favorite though. I live my own life with the mind set similar to elder and clarke.

[stilldropin20]

@sd20


I've noticed you've been posting tweets from black/minority conservatives lately.

Is there some underlying reason or are they just random tweets?

Quotes from black conservatives, quotes from right-wing/Republican guest columnists in the Post or the Times, and similar devices are intended to give a superficial "see, even your side agrees with me" veneer to what he says.

meh. borderline shameful.

If there was an "intention" it was to avoid being called raciist. this board is kind of obsessed with race, tbh. More so than any other group Ive ever interacted with in my life. ENTIRE. LIFE.

SO the goal is to avoid the blanket racism dismissals of the actual message and to have actual dialogue.

But seriously? Y'all need some jesus in your lives. Or some yoga. Go get some chocolate AND some vanilla in your lives. Trust me. You'll like both. a lot.

[montestewart]

But notice STD how I moved away from race and lumped the racial categorization in with non-racial categorizations, yet you didn't even notice and circled back to race, showing that it is in fact you that is obsessed with race, not I. Rubber, glue, Mr. Magoo, mulligan stew, Kalamazoo. See, unlike yourself, I am a true independent, unafraid to invoke the image of a garish and politically incorrect stereotype. This is freedom you've never felt in your life. ENTIRE. LIFE.

PS: I eat, sleep, breath, and practice Chogussa. It changed my life into a sameness. You should try it, for continuity of variation and consistency of contradiction, it's the best I've found.

[stilldropin20]

I am the 1st. to acknowledge that I am very left wing on social issues in Canada and that I haven't a problem with increasing our social network. Canada is a rich country and we have been blessed and I agree with a statement made by Hubert Humphrey.

“It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “

I also believe that government isn't a unending well of funds and that fiscal restraint is important that debt isn't passed on to future generations. Canada has done a credible job in this area and could do more. I am blessed and am willing to pay more in taxes since on average I pay a lower % of tax than most working class Canadians.

Frankly there isn't a reason that the current Canadian government couldn't have a balanced budget or a surplus. The only area I believe a deficit should be contemplated is on infrastructure where it could be like a mortgage amortized over 20 years.

I was asked by popper to educate him on universal healthcare and his 1st response was to condemn it with frankly some drivel. He asked for a personal experience and I told him and I told him about my cardiac incident. I haven't heard backs but other posters indicated in the USA I might be dead or that my medical insurer would decline the procedure.

The only negative was from SD20 in that I was feeding from the public trough but then again he believes it is fine to do medical procedure's for cash thus defrauding IRS and regular tax payers

bold face lie. you inferred cash payments was to avoid the IRS. And why would you infer that? Weird. Cash, check, credit.

My biggest issue i take with Obamacare was that he attempted to do away with pre-existing conditions. Which is not fair to healthy people to be lumped in with unhealthy people.

and again, the issue for me is "life is NOT fair." My kids wont get the same opportunities in life as Trump's Kids or Obama's kids. they wont. under no circumstances. In comparison, you could say my kids get screwed over. and the local drug addict/alcolholic's kids will get 10 times more screwed over than my kids.

and thats the way it is with everything. The only chance at fairness in life is health and beauty. "Healthy people" both win the genetic lottery and take extremely good care of themselves!!! They should be rewarded with lower health care costs!!!!! This is possibly the only level playing field that might exist on the planet!!! I cant think of any other scenario where the combination of your own personal genetic lottery, combined with healthy eating and exercise create a situation where you will likely live longer and with less issues and with significantly less costs. everything else in life is extremely unfair and the deck is stacked for the wealthy. except health!!

So why take money out of the pockets of the healthy to pay for the unhealthy??? Especially when lifestyle plays a major role in being unhealthy. If anything, "healthy" people should be pooled together and pay even lower rates.

and then their are those that never go to the doctor. For example I never go. Ive been to see a doctor or dentist about 7 times in my entire life including the day I was born. My father didn't go. My mother didn't go. My grandfather didn't go. grandmother seldem went. We are a family that doesn't go very often. and when we get "sick" we accept death. We dont fight for extra years. and we tend to live long. My family averages at about 87 years. I have many relatives that live to 100. I have an aunt that broke a hip at 92. didn't go to the doctor except for diagnosis. did not have the surgery. rehabs at home on her own. and is back up walking around today at 94 years old.

I just dont see why or how americans have become "hooked" on doctor visits. and why they are obsessed to live beyond the clock their genetic code has allotted?? This is why its so expensive!!! Stop visiting the doctor so much. stop taking meds. eat right! exercise! do things that make you happy. and accept death when your time has come!!

[cammac]

I am the 1st. to acknowledge that I am very left wing on social issues in Canada and that I haven't a problem with increasing our social network. Canada is a rich country and we have been blessed and I agree with a statement made by Hubert Humphrey.

“It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “

I also believe that government isn't a unending well of funds and that fiscal restraint is important that debt isn't passed on to future generations. Canada has done a credible job in this area and could do more. I am blessed and am willing to pay more in taxes since on average I pay a lower % of tax than most working class Canadians.

Frankly there isn't a reason that the current Canadian government couldn't have a balanced budget or a surplus. The only area I believe a deficit should be contemplated is on infrastructure where it could be like a mortgage amortized over 20 years.

I was asked by popper to educate him on universal healthcare and his 1st response was to condemn it with frankly some drivel. He asked for a personal experience and I told him and I told him about my cardiac incident. I haven't heard backs but other posters indicated in the USA I might be dead or that my medical insurer would decline the procedure.

The only negative was from SD20 in that I was feeding from the public trough but then again he believes it is fine to do medical procedure's for cash thus defrauding IRS and regular tax payers

bold face lie. you inferred cash payments was to avoid the IRS. And why would you infer that? Weird. Cash, check, credit.

My biggest issue i take with Obamacare was that he attempted to do away with pre-existing conditions. Which is not fair to healthy people to be lumped in with unhealthy people.

and again, the issue for me is "life is NOT fair." My kids wont get the same opportunities in life as Trump's Kids or Obama's kids. they wont. under no circumstances. In comparison, you could say my kids get screwed over. and the local drug addict/alcolholic's kids will get 10 times more screwed over than my kids.

and thats the way it is with everything. The only chance at fairness in life is health and beauty. "Healthy people" both win the genetic lottery and take extremely good care of themselves!!! They should be rewarded with lower health care costs!!!!! This is possibly the only level playing field that might exist on the planet!!! I cant think of any other scenario where the combination of your own personal genetic lottery, combined with healthy eating and exercise create a situation where you will likely live longer and with less issues and with significantly less costs. everything else in life is extremely unfair and the deck is stacked for the wealthy. except health!!

So why take money out of the pockets of the healthy to pay for the unhealthy??? Especially when lifestyle plays a major role in being unhealthy. If anything, "healthy" people should be pooled together and pay even lower rates.

and then their are those that never go to the doctor. For example I never go. Ive been to see a doctor or dentist about 7 times in my entire life including the day I was born. My father didn't go. My mother didn't go. My grandfather didn't go. grandmother seldem went. We are a family that doesn't go very often. and when we get "sick" we accept death. We dont fight for extra years. and we tend to live long. My family averages at about 87 years. I have many relatives that live to 100. I have an aunt that broke a hip at 92. didn't go to the doctor except for diagnosis. did not have the surgery. rehabs at home on her own. and is back up walking around today at 94 years old.

I just dont see why or how americans have become "hooked" on doctor visits. and why they are obsessed to live beyond the clock their genetic code has allotted?? This is why its so expensive!!! Stop visiting the doctor so much. stop taking meds. eat right! exercise! do things that make you happy. and accept death when your time has come!!

Unfortunately for you , your BS doesn't baffle brains!
You specifically mentioned you and doctor friends took cash revisionist history!

[stilldropin20]

But notice STD how I moved away from race and lumped the racial categorization in with non-racial categorizations, yet you didn't even notice and circled back to race, showing that it is in fact you that is obsessed with race, not I. Rubber, glue, Mr. Magoo, mulligan stew, Kalamazoo. See, unlike yourself, I am a true independent, unafraid to invoke the image of a garish and politically incorrect stereotype. This is freedom you've never felt in your life. ENTIRE. LIFE.

PS: I eat, sleep, breath, and practice Chogussa. It changed my life into a sameness. You should try it, for continuity of variation and consistency of contradiction, it's the best I've found.

funny. on so many levels. i nominate this for the hall of fame. actually, that nursery rhyme mash up you put together in the last thread should be in the hall of fame as well.


But seriously, I am the truest of independents. I admit that my beliefs have brought me nearly in lock step with Trump at this particular time but I dont agree with everything trump. In fact, I quite aggressively disagree on many things. And voiced those disagreements.

[stilldropin20]

I am the 1st. to acknowledge that I am very left wing on social issues in Canada and that I haven't a problem with increasing our social network. Canada is a rich country and we have been blessed and I agree with a statement made by Hubert Humphrey.

“It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “

I also believe that government isn't a unending well of funds and that fiscal restraint is important that debt isn't passed on to future generations. Canada has done a credible job in this area and could do more. I am blessed and am willing to pay more in taxes since on average I pay a lower % of tax than most working class Canadians.

Frankly there isn't a reason that the current Canadian government couldn't have a balanced budget or a surplus. The only area I believe a deficit should be contemplated is on infrastructure where it could be like a mortgage amortized over 20 years.

I was asked by popper to educate him on universal healthcare and his 1st response was to condemn it with frankly some drivel. He asked for a personal experience and I told him and I told him about my cardiac incident. I haven't heard backs but other posters indicated in the USA I might be dead or that my medical insurer would decline the procedure.

The only negative was from SD20 in that I was feeding from the public trough but then again he believes it is fine to do medical procedure's for cash thus defrauding IRS and regular tax payers

bold face lie. you inferred cash payments was to avoid the IRS. And why would you infer that? Weird. Cash, check, credit.

My biggest issue i take with Obamacare was that he attempted to do away with pre-existing conditions. Which is not fair to healthy people to be lumped in with unhealthy people.

and again, the issue for me is "life is NOT fair." My kids wont get the same opportunities in life as Trump's Kids or Obama's kids. they wont. under no circumstances. In comparison, you could say my kids get screwed over. and the local drug addict/alcolholic's kids will get 10 times more screwed over than my kids.

and thats the way it is with everything. The only chance at fairness in life is health and beauty. "Healthy people" both win the genetic lottery and take extremely good care of themselves!!! They should be rewarded with lower health care costs!!!!! This is possibly the only level playing field that might exist on the planet!!! I cant think of any other scenario where the combination of your own personal genetic lottery, combined with healthy eating and exercise create a situation where you will likely live longer and with less issues and with significantly less costs. everything else in life is extremely unfair and the deck is stacked for the wealthy. except health!!

So why take money out of the pockets of the healthy to pay for the unhealthy??? Especially when lifestyle plays a major role in being unhealthy. If anything, "healthy" people should be pooled together and pay even lower rates.

and then their are those that never go to the doctor. For example I never go. Ive been to see a doctor or dentist about 7 times in my entire life including the day I was born. My father didn't go. My mother didn't go. My grandfather didn't go. grandmother seldem went. We are a family that doesn't go very often. and when we get "sick" we accept death. We dont fight for extra years. and we tend to live long. My family averages at about 87 years. I have many relatives that live to 100. I have an aunt that broke a hip at 92. didn't go to the doctor except for diagnosis. did not have the surgery. rehabs at home on her own. and is back up walking around today at 94 years old.

I just dont see why or how americans have become "hooked" on doctor visits. and why they are obsessed to live beyond the clock their genetic code has allotted?? This is why its so expensive!!! Stop visiting the doctor so much. stop taking meds. eat right! exercise! do things that make you happy. and accept death when your time has come!!

Unfortunately for you , your BS doesn't baffle brains!
You specifically mentioned you and doctor friends took cash revisionist history!

yes, i did and still do accept cash. it makes up about 1% of my revenue. people just dont use it. and i deposit in my business account along with the checks. and I pay taxes on it. come on. seriously!!!!!!!!?????????

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@sd20


I've noticed you've been posting tweets from black/minority conservatives lately.

Is there some underlying reason or are they just random tweets?

Give SD20 credit...it has to be hard finding those tweets given that #45s approval rating among African Americans is currently 7%.

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