Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIX

[penbeast0]

Bertrans can't be traded until March according to trade machine which reduces the win now value of Beal for this year. Dealing Wiggins and Oubre leave them very thin at the 3. Still make more sense getting Wiseman, Klay and Picks rather than a bad young 3 that could play for GS this year. Even if Klay doesn't come back 100%, he comes back as a smart, good locker room player who can help mentor our young guys.

[Dat2U]

Here's a twist on the Golden State trade. This one sends more useful win-now assets to Golden State, which would help to justify a Brooklyn style package of future picks.

Washington trades: Beal, Bertans, Lopez, Brown
Golden state trades: Wiggins, Oubre, Wiseman

Lopez replaces Wiseman at starting center which helps them in the short term. Bertans would really fill out their depth, doing the shooting that they had hoped Oubre would do. Brown replaces Wiggins production at a much lower price. And obviously, the centerpiece is Beal.

We were probably not going to resign Brown anyway. And if we're rebuilding, Bertans at his salary might be a negative. We will now have the cap room to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.

So now we look at the picks. The Wizards should get:
2021 Minnesota 1st (top 3 protected)
2021 Golden State 1st
2026 Golden State 1st
2022 1st rd pick swap
2023 1st rd pick swap
2025 1st rd pick swap
2027 1st rd pick swap
2021 Minnesota 2nd
2022 Golden State 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd

Is that enough? Remember that by the 2026 draft, Curry will be 38, Klay 36, and Draymond 35. Even Beal will be 33. And they will have had no assets and no cap room to replenish their depth. Those picks swaps in 2025 and 2027 might be real valuable. And the 2026 pick is almost sure to be lotto pick.

I dont understand the idea of pick swaps in 22 & 23 when their still likely to be better than us.

Including Brown & Bertans and taking on Wiggins would mean there should be some added value to the Wizards but after 2021, the Wizards only get one pick 5 years later and only the option to swap picks before then. Getting extra 2nds for our trouble is meaningless.

[payitforward]

This thread has more or less turned into a discussion of what we can/should/would get for Bradley Beal. The premise for most of the flurry on the subject seems to be a recognition -- finally! -- that the Wizards are a rebuilding team. Not by choice but by necessity (&, for that matter, not starting "now" but starting the moment Ernie was fired).

It's on that premise, that we are building the next generation of the Wizards, that we concentrate on amassing picks. Makes perfect sense.

But, what if we don't have to trade Brad? What if we think of him as the key veteran on the team we aspire to become?

Now... that would require tabling the question of him opting out. Tabling it temporarily anyway.

If we leave Brad out of the picture for a moment, how might we acquire more picks and/or very young players with upside?

[doclinkin]

But, what if we don't have to trade Brad? What if we think of him as the key veteran on the team we aspire to become?

Now... that would require tabling the question of him opting out. Tabling it temporarily anyway.

If we leave Brad out of the picture for a moment, how might we acquire more picks and/or very young players with upside?

I think Bertans to a contender is our only tradable asset. Unless and until Westbrook sits for an extended period of time and in those surplus minutes our young players display skills that intrigue other teams. If so though, why would we not want to keep them? Aside from young players, Brad, and Russ we have no other assets to do anything with. Hints of potential at best, Bertans if a team needs range.

The lack of a true G-League means it is tougher to find diamonds in the rough. Difficulty with international travel means overseas players are less scoutable. This draft is key really for the bottom feeders of the league. There are a couple worst to first talents available seems like. Tricky thing is even with younger players soon to jump to the bigs, with COVID in play, scouting prep to pro potential is even harder.

[Ruzious]

Here's a twist on the Golden State trade. This one sends more useful win-now assets to Golden State, which would help to justify a Brooklyn style package of future picks.

Washington trades: Beal, Bertans, Lopez, Brown
Golden state trades: Wiggins, Oubre, Wiseman

Lopez replaces Wiseman at starting center which helps them in the short term. Bertans would really fill out their depth, doing the shooting that they had hoped Oubre would do. Brown replaces Wiggins production at a much lower price. And obviously, the centerpiece is Beal.

We were probably not going to resign Brown anyway. And if we're rebuilding, Bertans at his salary might be a negative. We will now have the cap room to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.

So now we look at the picks. The Wizards should get:
2021 Minnesota 1st (top 3 protected)
2021 Golden State 1st
2026 Golden State 1st
2022 1st rd pick swap
2023 1st rd pick swap
2025 1st rd pick swap
2027 1st rd pick swap
2021 Minnesota 2nd
2022 Golden State 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd

Is that enough? Remember that by the 2026 draft, Curry will be 38, Klay 36, and Draymond 35. Even Beal will be 33. And they will have had no assets and no cap room to replenish their depth. Those picks swaps in 2025 and 2027 might be real valuable. And the 2026 pick is almost sure to be lotto pick.

I dont understand the idea of pick swaps in 22 & 23 when their still likely to be better than us.

Including Brown & Bertans and taking on Wiggins would mean there should be some added value to the Wizards but after 2021, the Wizards only get one pick 5 years later and only the option to swap picks before then. Getting extra 2nds for our trouble is meaningless.

In the meantime, if we stay as is, we're lowering Brown's trade value to virtually nothing, and he's good enough to do a better job at GS than Oubre. And the longer we tread water - which is what we're doing at best, the more likely Beal leaves for nothing - which the franchise can't let happen. Wiggins is an oddball player but still has skills to be an effective oddball player at age 25. The real questions are - how bad will GSW's 2025-2027 picks be, and how patient are we willing to be to wait for GSW's 2025-2027 picks?

[pcbothwel]

Here's a twist on the Golden State trade. This one sends more useful win-now assets to Golden State, which would help to justify a Brooklyn style package of future picks.

Washington trades: Beal, Bertans, Lopez, Brown
Golden state trades: Wiggins, Oubre, Wiseman

Lopez replaces Wiseman at starting center which helps them in the short term. Bertans would really fill out their depth, doing the shooting that they had hoped Oubre would do. Brown replaces Wiggins production at a much lower price. And obviously, the centerpiece is Beal.

We were probably not going to resign Brown anyway. And if we're rebuilding, Bertans at his salary might be a negative. We will now have the cap room to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.

So now we look at the picks. The Wizards should get:
2021 Minnesota 1st (top 3 protected)
2021 Golden State 1st
2026 Golden State 1st
2022 1st rd pick swap
2023 1st rd pick swap
2025 1st rd pick swap
2027 1st rd pick swap
2021 Minnesota 2nd
2022 Golden State 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd

Is that enough? Remember that by the 2026 draft, Curry will be 38, Klay 36, and Draymond 35. Even Beal will be 33. And they will have had no assets and no cap room to replenish their depth. Those picks swaps in 2025 and 2027 might be real valuable. And the 2026 pick is almost sure to be lotto pick.

I dont understand the idea of pick swaps in 22 & 23 when their still likely to be better than us.

Including Brown & Bertans and taking on Wiggins would mean there should be some added value to the Wizards but after 2021, the Wizards only get one pick 5 years later and only the option to swap picks before then. Getting extra 2nds for our trouble is meaningless.

Yup... the more I look at GSW the more I realize they simply dont have enough unless they are trading the Minny pick, 25-27, and NOT including Wiggins.

Also nate, GSW has already traded their 2021 pick with top 20 protection that turns into the TWolves 2021 2nd... So we cant have both. We can get the reverse protection. I.E. GSW 2021 21-30 protected, THEN becoming Twolves 2nd.

GSW are the desperate ones here, not us. I mentioned a couple pages back, but GSW is locked into almost 100M annually in negative value contracts. They better pray Klay makes a full recovery, because that Draymond & Wiggins contracts are terrible... especially Draymond.

Andrew Wiggins isnt even their worst contract on the roster. Assuming Klay actually comes back to be a bench player/low end starter, then he might take that mantle... But in the meantime, Draymond Green has continued his precipitous fall off a cliff and their appears to be no end in sight.

Over the next 3 years, GSW will be paying 90-100M in salary EVERY YEAR in negative value contracts. That is unheard of.

Unless a clear homerun package is offered, the Wiz should not bail them out in any way.

Im sure its tough for us right now, but I have no issue stepping back and letting things play out. There are a lot of interesting things happening this year.
Overachieving:
- Knicks: They look more competitive with Thibs. Do they make a move?

- Spurs: Competitive and smart. Shocking. Lol... Not sure I see them doing anything crazy. They probably just ride this team out

Underachieving:
- Dallas: Doncic looks good, but Richardson looks bad and Porzingis is a real problem. He's a black hole and inefficient scorer. Does Dallas make a move?

- Denver: Jokic is a GOAT big and Porter is a scoring savant... but Jamal Murray continues to look like a 3rd/4th piece at best outside of a hot playoff performance in the bubble.

- Toronto: Yes, everyone knew they would take a step back, but OG looks like a low ceiling 3 & D player and Siakim has really regressed. Boucher is a hell of a find, but he'll be 29 next year. Masai might be gone next year too. Interesting situation to monitor.

- Miami: Yes, Bam is clearly a star... but Im failing to see any other real bright spots. Jimmy is a pro and stays afloat with High IQ play and defense, but he has really fallen off and their other young players dont particularly stand out. Like the Mavs, they dont have draft picks (No 21 or 23 pick)... Do they just let this small window with the Bam/Butler duo peter out?
*** Side note: What the hell happened to Jimmy's 3 ball?!? The guy shot over 1,000 3's the 5 years before Miami at a 35% rate(20% 3PAr)... Since coming over last year he's shooting it at 23% (15% 3PAr). Strange.

- Atlanta: Another interesting situation to follow. Collins and Hunter are studs, but Reddish continues to be trash, Bogdan looks like a 7th man, and Gallo cant stay healthy. They may let this play out for the year, but the Trae centered offense and Collins impending FA might blow things up.

- Portland: Yes, I know they are currently the 5th seed. But that is due to Dame and CJ being far and away the best backcourt in the league. What should be a concern is their last 3 1st round picks (Little, Simmons, Collins) are not even NBA caliber players, let alone rotation worthy. They dont have a 2021 draft pick. And their only 2 defensive players are either AWFUL (Covington) or injured (Nurkic). I could see them making a Bucks/Jrue type offer at the deadline to make a nice 3-4 year run. Ben Simmons?

As players go, the 2015/16 draft class stars have really underperformed.
Simmons, Siakim, Porzingis, Murray, DLo, Devin Booker.

Speaking of Booker, The suns are in an interesting place. CP3 is a leader, Payne is a great resurgence story, and Bridges/Johnson are shooting their ass off which is all culminating in a good team... but the Booker/Ayton cornerstones are quickly dissipating.
Im sure they wont rock the boat, but I wonder if they move off one of them sooner than later.

[Frichuela]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

[prime1time]

Here's a twist on the Golden State trade. This one sends more useful win-now assets to Golden State, which would help to justify a Brooklyn style package of future picks.

Washington trades: Beal, Bertans, Lopez, Brown
Golden state trades: Wiggins, Oubre, Wiseman

Lopez replaces Wiseman at starting center which helps them in the short term. Bertans would really fill out their depth, doing the shooting that they had hoped Oubre would do. Brown replaces Wiggins production at a much lower price. And obviously, the centerpiece is Beal.

We were probably not going to resign Brown anyway. And if we're rebuilding, Bertans at his salary might be a negative. We will now have the cap room to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.

So now we look at the picks. The Wizards should get:
2021 Minnesota 1st (top 3 protected)
2021 Golden State 1st
2026 Golden State 1st
2022 1st rd pick swap
2023 1st rd pick swap
2025 1st rd pick swap
2027 1st rd pick swap
2021 Minnesota 2nd
2022 Golden State 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd

Is that enough? Remember that by the 2026 draft, Curry will be 38, Klay 36, and Draymond 35. Even Beal will be 33. And they will have had no assets and no cap room to replenish their depth. Those picks swaps in 2025 and 2027 might be real valuable. And the 2026 pick is almost sure to be lotto pick.

I dont understand the idea of pick swaps in 22 & 23 when their still likely to be better than us.

Including Brown & Bertans and taking on Wiggins would mean there should be some added value to the Wizards but after 2021, the Wizards only get one pick 5 years later and only the option to swap picks before then. Getting extra 2nds for our trouble is meaningless.

Yup... the more I look at GSW the more I realize they simply dont have enough unless they are trading the Minny pick, 25-27, and NOT including Wiggins.

Also nate, GSW has already traded their 2021 pick with top 20 protection that turns into the TWolves 2021 2nd... So we cant have both. We can get the reverse protection. I.E. GSW 2021 21-30 protected, THEN becoming Twolves 2nd.

GSW are the desperate ones here, not us. I mentioned a couple pages back, but GSW is locked into almost 100M annually in negative value contracts. They better pray Klay makes a full recovery, because that Draymond & Wiggins contracts are terrible... especially Draymond.

Andrew Wiggins isnt even their worst contract on the roster. Assuming Klay actually comes back to be a bench player/low end starter, then he might take that mantle... But in the meantime, Draymond Green has continued his precipitous fall off a cliff and their appears to be no end in sight.

Over the next 3 years, GSW will be paying 90-100M in salary EVERY YEAR in negative value contracts. That is unheard of.

Unless a clear homerun package is offered, the Wiz should not bail them out in any way.

Im sure its tough for us right now, but I have no issue stepping back and letting things play out. There are a lot of interesting things happening this year.
Overachieving:
- Knicks: They look more competitive with Thibs. Do they make a move?

- Spurs: Competitive and smart. Shocking. Lol... Not sure I see them doing anything crazy. They probably just ride this team out

Underachieving:
- Dallas: Doncic looks good, but Richardson looks bad and Porzingis is a real problem. He's a black hole and inefficient scorer. Does Dallas make a move?

- Denver: Jokic is a GOAT big and Porter is a scoring savant... but Jamal Murray continues to look like a 3rd/4th piece at best outside of a hot playoff performance in the bubble.

- Toronto: Yes, everyone knew they would take a step back, but OG looks like a low ceiling 3 & D player and Siakim has really regressed. Boucher is a hell of a find, but he'll be 29 next year. Masai might be gone next year too. Interesting situation to monitor.

- Miami: Yes, Bam is clearly a star... but Im failing to see any other real bright spots. Jimmy is a pro and stays afloat with High IQ play and defense, but he has really fallen off and their other young players dont particularly stand out. Like the Mavs, they dont have draft picks (No 21 or 23 pick)... Do they just let this small window with the Bam/Butler duo peter out?
*** Side note: What the hell happened to Jimmy's 3 ball?!? The guy shot over 1,000 3's the 5 years before Miami at a 35% rate(20% 3PAr)... Since coming over last year he's shooting it at 23% (15% 3PAr). Strange.

- Atlanta: Another interesting situation to follow. Collins and Hunter are studs, but Reddish continues to be trash, Bogdan looks like a 7th man, and Gallo cant stay healthy. They may let this play out for the year, but the Trae centered offense and Collins impending FA might blow things up.

- Portland: Yes, I know they are currently the 5th seed. But that is due to Dame and CJ being far and away the best backcourt in the league. What should be a concern is their last 3 1st round picks (Little, Simmons, Collins) are not even NBA caliber players, let alone rotation worthy. They dont have a 2021 draft pick. And their only 2 defensive players are either AWFUL (Covington) or injured (Nurkic). I could see them making a Bucks/Jrue type offer at the deadline to make a nice 3-4 year run. Ben Simmons?

As players go, the 2015/16 draft class stars have really underperformed.
Simmons, Siakim, Porzingis, Murray, DLo, Devin Booker.

Speaking of Booker, The suns are in an interesting place. CP3 is a leader, Payne is a great resurgence story, and Bridges/Johnson are shooting their ass off which is all culminating in a good team... but the Booker/Ayton cornerstones are quickly dissipating.
Im sure they wont rock the boat, but I wonder if they move off one of them sooner than later.

I've been making this point about pick swaps for a while. Just because you put in a pick swap does not mean that those pick swaps will have value. They are just being thrown into trade proposals at this point with no regard for whether or not a higher draft pick will actually be conveyed.

[prime1time]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

It's not a win-win if you think Brown Jr can develop into an above-average/good player.

[truwizfan4evr]

How about we go after Kevin porter jr? Cavs trying to get rid of him.

[Frichuela]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

It's not a win-win if you think Brown Jr can develop into an above-average/good player.

Well, I think odds are Goga has better potential to develop as an above-average/good player than Troy.

I’m afraid Troy increasingly looks like the second coming of Evan Turner. In contrast, Goga has the potential to be top 15-20 center. Note that I say “potential” as there is always the risk he does not make it. For what is worth, he has been buried behind Sabonis and Turner with limited opportunities plus he has an additional year in a rookie scale contract.

[Ruzious]

How about we go after Kevin porter jr? Cavs trying to get rid of him.

The Wiz have made a point of getting boy scouts. KPJ is the opposite of that. Also, as talented as he is, he's undisciplined both on and off the court - with way too many to's. Granted, he's still very young, but again - he's not someone the Wiz will consider. Someone will give him another shot, but he's gotta grow up.

[payitforward]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

??? Troy Brown is having a horrible start to the season, but he was good as a rookie & quite good last year. I wouldn't dream of taking Goga Bitadze for Troy Brown.

You would have to be doing a whole lot of eye-test-interpretation to make anything positive of Goga Bitadze in the NBA so far. He doesn't rebound, can't shoot (what ability to stretch the floor?), turns the ball over a fair amount, & commits a lot of fouls. He does block a lot of shots, but that's it for anything he does at average level -- or anywhere near average level.

If you compare his numbers last year to Moritz Wagner, he was way way worse -- & Moe was bad not good. Goga Bitadze is a bust.

[JediMasterRevan]

How Highly does Washington value Rui?

Is he attainable?

[payitforward]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

It's not a win-win if you think Brown Jr can develop into an above-average/good player.

Well, I think odds are Goga has better potential to develop as an above-average/good player than Troy.

I’m afraid Troy increasingly looks like the second coming of Evan Turner. In contrast, Goga has the potential to be top 15-20 center. Note that I say “potential” as there is always the risk he does not make it. For what is worth, he has been buried behind Sabonis and Turner with limited opportunities plus he has an additional year in a rookie scale contract.

I just don't get this at all. I mean, sincerely, that I do not understand the reasoning behind what you write. Given that you've been very smart about players in the past, I would love to know what it is you see.

Without question, Goga Bitadze has been absolutely horrible so far in the NBA. That's beyond question. It jumps out of his numbers.

I.e., he was altogether awful in @500 minutes last year, & this year he can't get on the court at all -- he's played junk minutes in one blow-out loss. That's it.

As to Evan Turner... he was the 2d pick in the 2010 draft & has had an extremely disappointing career. That too jumps out of the numbers. (All the same, he has been a whole lot better player than Goga Bitadze, that's for sure.... )

Nor, looking at their numbers can I see any way at all that Troy Brown Jr. is similar to Evan Turner. I do see a way one could imagine that, however. Turner can't shoot the 3 at all, never has been able to. Troy didn't shoot the 3 well as a rookie, but he improved a lot his 2d year in % & on more attempts. This year his attempts have gone up again -- this time by 40% -- & his % has dropped slightly from last year.

Whatever you think of Brown, it would be impossible to think that he has played anywhere near as badly as Bitadze. On the numbers, Goga was one of the very worst of the worst of the rookies last year.

Other than blocks, what is it you see that would make you think he could be a "top 15-20 center?" I doubt he'll be in the league two years from now to tell the truth.

[payitforward]

How Highly does Washington value Rui?

Is he attainable?

I'd say that whether he is "attainable" can only be known once we learn how highly you value him... O Jedi Master...

[Dat2U]

I have been watching a good deal of film on Goga Bitadze. In limited minutes, he has shown good defensive potential plus the ability to stretch the floor. IMO, he has a decent ceiling as a starter if coached properly.

Given Levert’s kidney issues, Indy may be interested in a trade for Troy Brown. Win-win situation for both franchises.

??? Troy Brown is having a horrible start to the season, but he was good as a rookie & quite good last year. I wouldn't dream of taking Goga Bitadze for Troy Brown.

You would have to be doing a whole lot of eye-test-interpretation to make anything positive of Goga Bitadze in the NBA so far. He doesn't rebound, can't shoot (what ability to stretch the floor?), turns the ball over a fair amount, & commits a lot of fouls. He does block a lot of shots, but that's it for anything he does at average level -- or anywhere near average level.

If you compare his numbers last year to Moritz Wagner, he was way way worse -- & Moe was bad not good. Goga Bitadze is a bust.

Less than 500 minutes and we're calling him a bust at 20?

But we got 2600 minutes of evidence of Troy Brown not fitting in any lineups but your high on him because he rebounds well?

[JAR69]

More and more, I'm thinking that to get maximum picks in return for Beal we will need to involve at least two other teams in a multi-team trade (for those of you not sold on Herro). I'm not one for concocting that kind of thing, but here the outline of one I've been noodling:

Beal to Miami for Herro, Achiuwa, Olynyk, 2025 FRP, 2024 pick swap, 2026 pick swap, filler
Herro to Golden State for the Minnesota 2021 FRP and a future (2025, 2026, or 2027) pick swap

To unlock the 2025 Miami pick and the Miami pick swap, Miami will have to remove the protections on the 2023 FRP they traded to OKC. I hope - though I'm not sure - OKC would be willing to give up a late FRP to get that (maybe), perhaps the Clippers' 2022 or 2024 pick or the Denver 2023 pick. If we can't get that, then two good second round picks, including getting back our own 2023 pick.

I'd also flip Olynyk for a second round pick. And I'm open to trading Achiuwa for a mid to late FRP.

So, the return would be something like Achiuwa, Minnesota 2021 FRP, Miami 2025 FRP, late FRP via OKC, Miami 2024 pick swap, Miami 2026 pick swap, Golden State future pick swap, second round pick from Olynyk.

Decent but not great haul.

[nate33]

This is a good haul for Beal+. But I don't think GS does it - it gives up too much. Brown and Lopez have little value. Bertans is worth a first. Beal is worth the rest of the picks/swaps, especially with us taking Oubre and Wiggins. But I don't think they would mortgage their future like this. Their cupboard would be Brooklyn-bare. With the other superteams out there, I don't think they truly believe they are likely to win another championship by adding Beal/Bertans. So I don't think they will think it is worthwhile..

I think they would mortgage the future. They're never trading Curry, so they will fell compelled to put the most competitive team around them that they can during the years that he has left.

[nate33]

Here's a twist on the Golden State trade. This one sends more useful win-now assets to Golden State, which would help to justify a Brooklyn style package of future picks.

Washington trades: Beal, Bertans, Lopez, Brown
Golden state trades: Wiggins, Oubre, Wiseman

Lopez replaces Wiseman at starting center which helps them in the short term. Bertans would really fill out their depth, doing the shooting that they had hoped Oubre would do. Brown replaces Wiggins production at a much lower price. And obviously, the centerpiece is Beal.

We were probably not going to resign Brown anyway. And if we're rebuilding, Bertans at his salary might be a negative. We will now have the cap room to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.

So now we look at the picks. The Wizards should get:
2021 Minnesota 1st (top 3 protected)
2021 Golden State 1st
2026 Golden State 1st
2022 1st rd pick swap
2023 1st rd pick swap
2025 1st rd pick swap
2027 1st rd pick swap
2021 Minnesota 2nd
2022 Golden State 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd

Is that enough? Remember that by the 2026 draft, Curry will be 38, Klay 36, and Draymond 35. Even Beal will be 33. And they will have had no assets and no cap room to replenish their depth. Those picks swaps in 2025 and 2027 might be real valuable. And the 2026 pick is almost sure to be lotto pick.

I dont understand the idea of pick swaps in 22 & 23 when their still likely to be better than us.

Including Brown & Bertans and taking on Wiggins would mean there should be some added value to the Wizards but after 2021, the Wizards only get one pick 5 years later and only the option to swap picks before then. Getting extra 2nds for our trouble is meaningless.

Yes, the pick swaps in 22 and 23 are basically worthless. But I put them in there just in case. Injuries can happen.