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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1581 » by TGW » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:10 pm

dobrojim wrote:Go Eagles.


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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1583 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:31 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:If McNichols doesn't fumble, they have a chance to tie the game going into the break and that would have made for a very different second half. But they kept turning it over and the score got away from them. Tough to see our run ended by bit players who weren't up to the moment, but they'll be able to upgrade the talent in the offseason. All in all, this season was both unexpected and lots of fun. The future is bright! #HTTC
Yeah there are tons of places to up grade. We need to add some OL depth maybe another starting tackle. CB is a huge need cuz Latimore ain't it. Take that L. We need to draft a RB period. Well have be pretty late in the 20s and we'll have our pick of backs if we wanna go that way or be able to take a pretty solid tackle or another guard or CB.

I think going after T Higgins wouldn't be out of the question. Or a small trade for Pickens but other than that I wouldn't do over board on over paying WR cuz those are the only terry caliber guys that might be worth paying and available.
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WR to look at
Rondelle and Elijah Moore, tutu atwell josh palmer, tee Higgins.

RB
Javante Williams maybe but I'd draft someone

OL
here are tons of OL men under the age of 27 coming up in free agency particularly from the bills, KC, Eagles, and lions. I would also draft one.

We need to draft a CB probably an Edge too but there are some decent under 27 options at edge in free agency.

Some younger CB options but a lot of them have injury issues.

I think we should trade back and get some extra picks and then target OL, CB,RB.

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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1584 » by Rafael122 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:20 pm

It's gonna come out that Lattimore's hamstring was never fully healed. It may not be this week, but at some point between now and camp we're gonna find out.

Here's the thing with receiver, do you want to get a 1B to McLaurin's 1A or do you want McLaurin and a bunch of 2s and 3s on the depth chart? Is Dyami Brown a #2 receiver anywhere else, realistically? Probably not. All these guys played at a level above their slot, meaning Brown is probably #3/slot receiver, Oz is a good guy to have as your 4th receiver. Crowder is depth. If Higgins is too expensive, I wouldn't mind Godwin. He dislocated his ankle so its not like it was a torn ACL. He'll be 29 so while he's older, he might be cheaper.

Tight end - I would bring back Ertz, but I'd also look to upgrade the position too. Sinnott to me is an unknown, so if you're bringing Ertz back and possibly another tight end, you're knocking him down the depth chart. Mike Gesicki is a guy that I'd look out for.

Running back - I'll just say this, I would bring back Ekeler but I would also draft a running back. Draft class for running backs is loaded this year and there will be a run on them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. That Judkins kid from Ohio State is interesting.

Offensive line - Ronnie Stanley from the Ravens is a free agent. He'll be 31 entering the season but he is a franchise left tackle. Will be interesting to see if Baltimore keeps him but he's a guy I'd target. Trey Smith from the Chiefs is another guy I'd look at, only issue is he has had blood clots but he could be the answer at guard. Only 25.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1585 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:27 pm

Strange fact i didn't know about. The Chiefs aquired the 10th pick they used to pick Mahomes by trading up with.....the Bills. :lol:
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1586 » by Kanyewest » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:48 pm

The Lattimore trade wasn't a home run but he was fine I guess.

- In a 1 point game against the Saints, the Saints didn't target Lattimore once.
- Lattimore had some critical stops against the Eagles in a close win.
- Also against the Lions, the Saints only targeted Lattimore once in a game where Goff threw 4 interceptions and fumbled it once- I'm guessing Detroit doesn't have as many turnovers.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1587 » by Kanyewest » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:50 pm

tontoz wrote:Strange fact i didn't know about. The Chiefs aquired the 10th pick they used to pick Mahomes by trading up with.....the Bills. :lol:


I didn't know about that the Bills had the Mahomes pick. The Chiefs also traded up with the Bills to take Xavier Worthy ... yikes.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1588 » by TGW » Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:11 pm

Tee Higgins is a no brainer. Get him if he's available. That guy Mosses defenders...we haven't had a receiver like that since...never.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1589 » by pancakes3 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:44 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
tontoz wrote:Strange fact i didn't know about. The Chiefs aquired the 10th pick they used to pick Mahomes by trading up with.....the Bills. :lol:


I didn't know about that the Bills had the Mahomes pick. The Chiefs also traded up with the Bills to take Xavier Worthy ... yikes.


that one is on the Bills. at that point, the chiefs have already established their dominance over the bills and I'm not trading squat with the Chiefs even if it makes me better bc we ain't havin no part in making the chiefs better
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1590 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:07 pm

Rafael122 wrote:It's gonna come out that Lattimore's hamstring was never fully healed. It may not be this week, but at some point between now and camp we're gonna find out.

Here's the thing with receiver, do you want to get a 1B to McLaurin's 1A or do you want McLaurin and a bunch of 2s and 3s on the depth chart? Is Dyami Brown a #2 receiver anywhere else, realistically? Probably not. All these guys played at a level above their slot, meaning Brown is probably #3/slot receiver, Oz is a good guy to have as your 4th receiver. Crowder is depth. If Higgins is too expensive, I wouldn't mind Godwin. He dislocated his ankle so its not like it was a torn ACL. He'll be 29 so while he's older, he might be cheaper.

Tight end - I would bring back Ertz, but I'd also look to upgrade the position too. Sinnott to me is an unknown, so if you're bringing Ertz back and possibly another tight end, you're knocking him down the depth chart. Mike Gesicki is a guy that I'd look out for.

Running back - I'll just say this, I would bring back Ekeler but I would also draft a running back. Draft class for running backs is loaded this year and there will be a run on them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. That Judkins kid from Ohio State is interesting.

Offensive line - Ronnie Stanley from the Ravens is a free agent. He'll be 31 entering the season but he is a franchise left tackle. Will be interesting to see if Baltimore keeps him but he's a guy I'd target. Trey Smith from the Chiefs is another guy I'd look at, only issue is he has had blood clots but he could be the answer at guard. Only 25.
I agree no reason to not bring back Ertz. He was good this year. And we have plenty of young TE to keep developing. I would get rid of Bates.

I would see if you could maybe swing a trade for Gabe Davis. He's young, he was injured and maybe he would be a cheap get from a team that's about to have a leadership change. I think you need to change and upgrade the WR core but you can do that around the edges for one more year as good as Daniels is. You might be able to get a aging vet on a cheap deal that's better that everyone except terry. Like could you get digs cheap off an injury, does devante Adams get let go and maybe you can get him cheap? Are they better than terry at this point? I don't think but they would absolutely be #2 upgrades if not just at Terry's level as aging WR on their way down. And absolutely better than anyone we have not named terry this year.

There are almost 30 running backs in this draft class with a draftable rating over 80. That's after people declared for the transfer portal and that's a lot for running backs.

Kaleb Johnson and Dylan Sampson are top tier high upside guys that would be pretty decent early picks. If we wait I'd look at a guy like skattabo he's a dog!

The WR pool in this draft doesn't have the up side last year's had but it was more mid range depth. Julian Fleming from Penn State is ranked around 30 among draftable wr and he's 62 and runs a 4.3. he doesn't have the stats and he's a little older but **** is he's hanging around on day 3 and you're the commanders . You take a shot at him.



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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1591 » by dobrojim » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:57 am

say what you want about Philly fans, they're not proudly doing the overtly racist Tomahawk chop
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1592 » by TGW » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:22 am

dobrojim wrote:say what you want about Philly fans, they're not proudly doing the overtly racist Tomahawk chop


Yea they just assault opposing fans, cheer when the players of opposing teams get injured, eat horse feces and destroy their city when their sports teams win, and are generally known as the most disgusting, drunk, annoying fan bases in sports.

But yea, go eagles. :roll:
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1593 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:21 am

Benjammin wrote:I'm glad they got Marshon. As long as it's only a third round pick and the "additional compensation" isn't significant. This gives them a real chance this year and for the next few years to go for it while JD5 is on his rookie deal.
Benjammin wrote:It wasn't a cheap price because of other competition.

New Orleans gets:
-Washington 3rd-round pick
-Washington 4th
-Its 6th back from the John Ridgeway trade

Washington gets:
-Marshon Lattimore
-Saints’ 5th-round pick
Tyrone Messby wrote:Oh man incredible move. Lattimore can shut down his side of the field. Just stay healthy.
LyricalRico wrote:Loving this new front office!

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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1594 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:25 am

gambitx777 wrote:God maybe it's the piff in me but **** I wanna puke. 3 picks for a dude with a bum leg.....

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gambitx777 wrote:I will stand and die on this hill. That it was a terrible trade as far as value goes.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I feel the same way. Don't trade valuable assets for an oft-injured player. Keep building patiently through the draft.
Like the wr depth in this draft is weak but OL, RB and special teams is looking solid. Yes we have a few 7th rounders. But even though most of the Ron era draft picks are gone. We probably won't get a com pick at all. So we're we are. A first a second a third a fifth and 3 sevenths. We could have used that 3-4 and 6 to really sure up this young team. I am very disappointed that we just tossed those picks away. I think a 4-6 for latimore and 7th would have been fair. But still more than they should have paid. Idk. I don't see him being better than all 3 of those draft picks I know they weren't top 100 picks but **** me side ways. This just feels like EG bull ****.

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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1595 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:26 am

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Benjammin wrote:If Lattimore stays healthy, it will be a good deal. If he doesn't, it won't. I think it was worth what they paid but time will tell.

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The best predictor of future performance is past performance. Lattimore misses a ton of games, and he's been ineffective since 2021.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LattMa01.htm

Twenty-four missed games in three seasons. HORRIBLE RATINGS in the Twenty-four games he played. The guy is cooked, and the Commanders made a dumb move.
I don't think I was totally accurate, but in general, he did what i predicted.

Still injured or subpar.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1596 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:29 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Benjammin wrote:If Lattimore stays healthy, it will be a good deal. If he doesn't, it won't. I think it was worth what they paid but time will tell.

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The best predictor of future performance is past performance. Lattimore misses a ton of games, and he's been ineffective since 2021.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LattMa01.htm

Twenty-four missed games in three seasons. HORRIBLE RATINGS in the Twenty-four games he played. The guy is cooked, and the Commanders made a dumb move.
Here's how I see this.
If latimore. Stays healthy, returns to form and say signs a team friendly deal and plays 85 percent of the games on that deal at just above average performance for him .it's just a slight over pay. But that's if every thing goes perfect. If he continues to miss a step, misses games or demands too much money and or walks this deal is complete **** for us. Yes we only leveraged one years picks but 3 picks and a net of 2 is a lot.

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With all those ifs, I'm saying Peter's isn't infallible.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1597 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:25 am

Petters made a mistake. It happens. Latimore is cooked. It is what it is. There are some good CB candidates we should be able to fix the issue

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Post#1598 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:43 am

Also latimore doesn't have any guaranteed money left so you can just cut him. You can force him in to a restructure and tell him if he doesn't he's gonna get cut him. It's ok to cut him yes you lost 2 draft picks but sometimes you have to eat the L. It's not a fire able offence just a lesson for a new gm

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Post#1599 » by closg00 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:40 pm

As loathsome as Eagles fans are, the Chiefs must be knocked off their perch, cheering for the Eagles.
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Post#1600 » by Benjammin » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:54 pm

^^^That is a bitter pill to swallow. I just can't do it.

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