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2015 Free Agency and Offseason Part 1

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Re: Wizards Offseason 2015 

Post#161 » by nate33 » Sat May 16, 2015 8:43 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Good news is the biggest reason we lost the series is expiring after next year and should be replaced by an all-star
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mvp
stud, bad news is we're still stuck with him for a year and our most versatile and clutchest player might be retiring.

One trade I think about quite a bit is Nene for Faried. Faried is a contract that Denver seems to regret, and I think they'll be looking to tank soon. I could see them taking Nene and buying him out. He'd be a nice backup big for say, San Antonio. Pairing the Manimal with a high intensity player like Wall is very enticing. A player like Faried would have won us the Hawks series through rebounding alone, but he isn't really the ideal stretch 4 starter that you'd like to see next to Wall. Defensively as well I'm not to sure how I feel about him. I've always thought he was simply an average defender. Thoughts on Faried defense slaent?

Besides that, we need a sixth man off the bench. KS needs to go, we need a dependable backup C. I'd like to get our own version of Schroeder/IT, which I think we can get in this draft. IWMTB/Other draft heads--thoughts on Tyus Jones vs Jerian Grant? I prefer Jones.

Beal will get a max. Youth + playoff career averages of 21, 5 and 5...there's just no avoiding it. Kids only 21.

Faried was a real nice asset when he was an up-and-coming energy player on a rookie contract. Now he's a poor-shooting, mediocre-defending PF being paid $12M a year. No thanks.

We have seen that the key to unleashing the best out of Wall, Beal and Gortat is to provide them spacing from the PF position. If we're going to sacrifice assets/money for a PF, he absolutely must have 3-point range.
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#162 » by nate33 » Sat May 16, 2015 8:52 pm

JAR69 wrote:Seraphin likely leaving - wants to go someplace he can start. http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/free-agent-be-kevin-seraphin-eager-blossom-elsewhere

Good luck with that, KS. And good bye.

:D

From the article:

The Minnesota Timberwolves contacted the Wizards to gauge their interest in trading Seraphin this season, but that was quickly rejected.


:banghead:

It's obvious that we have little interest in resigning Seraphin for a long term deal based on our KD2DC plans. With that the case, why didn't EG get some value for him now rather than let Seraphin go for nothing this offseason?

We could have traded him for, say, Gary Neal and a high 2nd round pick. That would have given us the backup SG we desperately need, while also giving us a decent pick.

EG isn't bad at "buying low" in the trade and free agency market, but he really sucks at "selling high".
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#163 » by nate33 » Sat May 16, 2015 9:03 pm

If Seraphin is on the outs, we really need to find a competent and relatively cheap backup C. Ruzious has been pushing for Ajinca, which strikes me as a really good option. Who else is out there that will cost MLE type money or less and give us a reliable 15-20 minutes a night?
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Re: Wizards Offseason 2015 

Post#164 » by 80sballboy » Sat May 16, 2015 9:06 pm

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JudBuchler wrote:Get cousins somehow!

get a championship next year! thats it

if they are really serious go get cousins

Wall- beal - Cousins - Pierce is a championship squad if surronded by solid roational players

You can't just say, "get Cousins somehow", as if that's some kind of feasible strategy. Why in the World would Sacramento trade him if we're not giving up Wall or Beal?


We can win a title w/o Cousins. Need a better bench, a more athletic four. A healthy Wall.
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#165 » by 80sballboy » Sat May 16, 2015 9:10 pm

nate33 wrote:If Seraphin is on the outs, we really need to find a competent and relatively cheap backup C. Ruzious has been pushing for Ajinca, which strikes me as a really good option. Who else is out there that will cost MLE type money or less and give us a reliable 15-20 minutes a night?


Seems like a nice kid but addition by subtraction. I'm not sure he has the hunger to be great nor the BB IQ.
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#166 » by JWizmentality » Sat May 16, 2015 9:19 pm

Take Wittman with you Kevin. You're made for each other.
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#167 » by nuposse04 » Sat May 16, 2015 9:23 pm

nate33 wrote:If Seraphin is on the outs, we really need to find a competent and relatively cheap backup C. Ruzious has been pushing for Ajinca, which strikes me as a really good option. Who else is out there that will cost MLE type money or less and give us a reliable 15-20 minutes a night?


Just make Nene the back up center. We're better off looking for bargain stretch 4s. Jonas Jerebko for example, might be someone we can get.
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Post#168 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 16, 2015 9:34 pm

JAR69 wrote:Seraphin likely leaving - wants to go someplace he can start. http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/free-agent-be-kevin-seraphin-eager-blossom-elsewhere

Good luck with that, KS. And good bye.

:D


Booyah!

Good news, indeed.
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Post#169 » by 80sballboy » Sat May 16, 2015 9:35 pm

nuposse04 wrote:http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/

gonna skim this for the diamonds in the rough. Have at it.
'

Some potentially cheap guys
SG/PG Gary Neal-excellent 3pt shooter. Will get plenty of looks. Can play some point. Streaky.
PF Darrell Arthur-improving 3 point shooter (24%) but not an upgrade over Hump.
PG Mo Williams-by the time he becomes a Wizard, he'll be over the hill. Can we get him before he's done?
SG Anthony Morrow-great 3pt shooter (43% for his career, 43.4% last year).
SG Marco Belinelli 37% 3pt last year, 39% career.
PF/C Jason Smith (36% 3PT) stretch 5?
PG Doanld Sloan 31% 3pt, 46eFG% last year. Showed he can start.
SF Dorrell Wright (6-9, 205) 38% 3pt last year
SG/SF Wesley Johnhson 35% 3pt last year. (too much $$$?)
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Post#170 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 16, 2015 9:40 pm

nate33 wrote:If Seraphin is on the outs, we really need to find a competent and relatively cheap backup C. Ruzious has been pushing for Ajinca, which strikes me as a really good option. Who else is out there that will cost MLE type money or less and give us a reliable 15-20 minutes a night?


Is Ajinca better than Jeff Withey?
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#171 » by Sluggerface » Sat May 16, 2015 10:45 pm

80sballboy wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/

gonna skim this for the diamonds in the rough. Have at it.
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Some potentially cheap guys
SG/PG Gary Neal-excellent 3pt shooter. Will get plenty of looks. Can play some point. Streaky.
PF Darrell Arthur-improving 3 point shooter (24%) but not an upgrade over Hump.
PG Mo Williams-by the time he becomes a Wizard, he'll be over the hill. Can we get him before he's done?
SG Anthony Morrow-great 3pt shooter (43% for his career, 43.4% last year).
SG Marco Belinelli 37% 3pt last year, 39% career.
PF/C Jason Smith (36% 3PT) stretch 5?
PG Doanld Sloan 31% 3pt, 46eFG% last year. Showed he can start.
SF Dorrell Wright (6-9, 205) 38% 3pt last year
SG/SF Wesley Johnhson 35% 3pt last year. (too much $$$?)


Can throw Omri Casspi on that list too (although I don't know how cheap he will be.) If Pierce opts out and retires, it will be a blessing in disguise. There's some really good athletic talent to be had in this free agent pool. A lot of guys entering their prime. Not a bad time to load up on a key bench component.
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Post#172 » by nate33 » Sat May 16, 2015 10:58 pm

I'm not going to rule Martell Webster out just yet. In the last 2 or 3 games of the regular season, Webster showed some flashes of his prior athleticism. If he gets another offseason of rest and rehab, he may be a much more useful player next year. I'm not expecting the Martell Webster of 2012/13, but we might get the Martell Webster of 2013/14, and that guy would be a useful rotation player. At the very least, it's possible that Webster next year will be a better player than Rasual Butler was this year.
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Re: 2015 Free Agency and Offseason (merged) 

Post#173 » by DCZards » Sat May 16, 2015 11:11 pm

nate33 wrote:I'm not going to rule Martell Webster out just yet. In the last 2 or 3 games of the regular season, Webster showed some flashes of his prior athleticism. If he gets another offseason of rest and rehab, he may be a much more useful player next year. I'm not expecting the Martell Webster of 2012/13, but we might get the Martell Webster of 2013/14, and that guy would be a useful rotation player. At the very least, it's possible that Webster next year will be a better player than Rasual Butler was this year.


I've pretty much given up on Martell. I figure that his back issues are affecting his lift and 3 pt. shot. But you may be right. An offseason of rest, more rehab and getting in shape might be just what he needs to come back as a solid contributor next season.
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Post#174 » by barelyawake » Sun May 17, 2015 12:24 am

nate33 wrote:
JudBuchler wrote:Get cousins somehow!

get a championship next year! thats it

if they are really serious go get cousins

Wall- beal - Cousins - Pierce is a championship squad if surronded by solid roational players

You can't just say, "get Cousins somehow", as if that's some kind of feasible strategy. Why in the World would Sacramento trade him if we're not giving up Wall or Beal?

If Cousins demands a trade, he will have many teams after him (all not willing to trade much). Teams will be trading future draft picks to get him -- like Boston. We have pieces, we have future draft picks, and we can trade for more picks. And Cousins will pick the teams he will play for (making the pool even less), The problem isn't having the pieces to get Cousins. It's a management who won't take chances because we have a fanbase who think we are Taj Gibson away from a championship (which obviously we aren't).
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Post#175 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun May 17, 2015 12:38 am

nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Good news is the biggest reason we lost the series is expiring after next year and should be replaced by an all-star
Spoiler:
mvp
stud, bad news is we're still stuck with him for a year and our most versatile and clutchest player might be retiring.

One trade I think about quite a bit is Nene for Faried. Faried is a contract that Denver seems to regret, and I think they'll be looking to tank soon. I could see them taking Nene and buying him out. He'd be a nice backup big for say, San Antonio. Pairing the Manimal with a high intensity player like Wall is very enticing. A player like Faried would have won us the Hawks series through rebounding alone, but he isn't really the ideal stretch 4 starter that you'd like to see next to Wall. Defensively as well I'm not to sure how I feel about him. I've always thought he was simply an average defender. Thoughts on Faried defense slaent?

Besides that, we need a sixth man off the bench. KS needs to go, we need a dependable backup C. I'd like to get our own version of Schroeder/IT, which I think we can get in this draft. IWMTB/Other draft heads--thoughts on Tyus Jones vs Jerian Grant? I prefer Jones.

Beal will get a max. Youth + playoff career averages of 21, 5 and 5...there's just no avoiding it. Kids only 21.

Faried was a real nice asset when he was an up-and-coming energy player on a rookie contract. Now he's a poor-shooting, mediocre-defending PF being paid $12M a year. No thanks.

We have seen that the key to unleashing the best out of Wall, Beal and Gortat is to provide them spacing from the PF position. If we're going to sacrifice assets/money for a PF, he absolutely must have 3-point range.


I would include the #19 pick if Denver would take Webster and Humphries for Faried and Denver second.

The Wizards could draft a big like Rakeem Christmas and a backup PG. Joe Young or Olivier Hanlan or if he slips, Kris Dunn would be worth a look.
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Post#176 » by nuposse04 » Sun May 17, 2015 12:47 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Good news is the biggest reason we lost the series is expiring after next year and should be replaced by an all-star
Spoiler:
mvp
stud, bad news is we're still stuck with him for a year and our most versatile and clutchest player might be retiring.

One trade I think about quite a bit is Nene for Faried. Faried is a contract that Denver seems to regret, and I think they'll be looking to tank soon. I could see them taking Nene and buying him out. He'd be a nice backup big for say, San Antonio. Pairing the Manimal with a high intensity player like Wall is very enticing. A player like Faried would have won us the Hawks series through rebounding alone, but he isn't really the ideal stretch 4 starter that you'd like to see next to Wall. Defensively as well I'm not to sure how I feel about him. I've always thought he was simply an average defender. Thoughts on Faried defense slaent?

Besides that, we need a sixth man off the bench. KS needs to go, we need a dependable backup C. I'd like to get our own version of Schroeder/IT, which I think we can get in this draft. IWMTB/Other draft heads--thoughts on Tyus Jones vs Jerian Grant? I prefer Jones.

Beal will get a max. Youth + playoff career averages of 21, 5 and 5...there's just no avoiding it. Kids only 21.

Faried was a real nice asset when he was an up-and-coming energy player on a rookie contract. Now he's a poor-shooting, mediocre-defending PF being paid $12M a year. No thanks.

We have seen that the key to unleashing the best out of Wall, Beal and Gortat is to provide them spacing from the PF position. If we're going to sacrifice assets/money for a PF, he absolutely must have 3-point range.


I would include the #19 pick if Denver would take Webster and Humphries for Faried and Denver second.

The Wizards could draft a big like Rakeem Christmas and a backup PG. Joe Young or Olivier Hanlan or if he slips, Kris Dunn would be worth a look.


And we'd downgrade defensively in the long term with Faried and kill our floor spacing. Faried isn't worth his contract right now and i believe there are better bigmen in this draft then him within reasonable range of our pick. Now if Faried actually had a jumper then we could entertain it.
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Post#177 » by Dark Faze » Sun May 17, 2015 12:56 am

That's a fair stance to take on Faried. Two way stretch 4's are pretty much the rarest assets in the league right now though so it's easier said than done.
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Post#178 » by 80sballboy » Sun May 17, 2015 1:00 am

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Players coming off the books for the #Wizards this summer: Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler, Drew Gooden, Will Bynum, and Andray Blatche.
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Post#179 » by Dark Faze » Sun May 17, 2015 1:10 am

I wonder if Drew decides to try to get another pay day. He's certainly deserving of more than he's getting.
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Post#180 » by TheSecretWeapon » Sun May 17, 2015 2:11 am

That Seraphin article is rich with delusion. Not sure who is more delusional, Seraphin or J. Michael. I think Seraphin is a good guy, and was worth the attempt to see if he could become a decent NBA center. That attempt failed, though. He's not some budding star who's been held back by lack of playing time. He's just not a good NBA player, at least not yet. I mean, he's still fairly young, so if he goes and works hard and smart, he could still probably become a good player. Seems unlikely, but stranger things have happened, I guess.
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