Rui Hachimura 2.0

[nate33]

I'm a little confused by this whole thing. I get that Rui could be overworked and strained emotionally. I also get that he is under a great deal of pressure as the biggest basketball star in the history of a nation 125 million people.

But what I don't get is why now? Why not take a mental break in the offseason? If he is under so much mental strain right now that he can't attend training camp, he had to have been under maybe 90% of that mental strain 3 weeks ago. Shouldn't somebody have recognized it and tried to get him some help?

I dunno. Perhaps I'm not the best guy to comment on this sort of thing. I'm very "left brained" in my thinking and I suck at understanding things like depression and anxiety in others. I would be the world's worst psychiatrist.

[Dat2U]

I'm a little confused by this whole thing. I get that Rui could be overworked and strained emotionally. I also get that he is under a great deal of pressure as the biggest basketball star in the history of a nation 125 million people.

But what I don't get is why now? Why not take a mental break in the offseason? If he is under so much mental strain right now that he can't attend training camp, he had to have been under maybe 90% of that mental strain 3 weeks ago. Shouldn't somebody have recognized it and tried to get him some help?

I dunno. Perhaps I'm not the best guy to comment on this sort of thing. I'm very "left brained" in my thinking and I suck at understanding things like depression and anxiety in others. I would be the world's worst psychiatrist.

He represents his country in every public appearance. He's one of Japan's biggest embassadors. I'm sure no one here has any concept of that type of daily pressure/grind. We also have no idea what's going on personally or with his family. If the Wizards can excuse his absence, so can us fans.

The Wizards are well positioned to deal with it in the short term.

[Endless Loop]

He represents his country in every public appearance. He's one of Japan's biggest embassadors. I'm sure no one here has any concept of that type of daily pressure/grind. We also have no idea what's going on personally or with his family. If the Wizards can excuse his absence, so can us fans.

The Wizards are well positioned to deal with it in the short term.

I'm genuinely so impressed with everybody's appreciation of the situation for Rui, and the support he gets. But it's a good crew here, shouldn't have expected any less!

[payitforward]

Mostly let's just hope there's nothing major going wrong in his life/family.

As to timing, which nate brings up, I don't think the curve of this kind of stuff is smooth. Especially in a young person.

[doclinkin]

I feel for Rui. He does seem like a genuine and nice guy, earnest and eager to please. I hope he discovers real strength from this, with support from family, friends, and even mentors in the league or NBA Alumni who reach out to offer help. Kevin Love comes to mind. (If not, say Metta World Peace).

[nate33]

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This sounds like a great idea. For the most part, social media is horrible. I think all of us would have better mental health without it, particularly those who are in the public eye all the time.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

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This sounds like a great idea. For the most part, social media is horrible. I think all of us would have better mental health without it, particularly those who are in the public eye all the time.

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

[nate33]

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

Yup. I think the Information Age peaked at about 1998. Email was widespread (which genuinely boosted corporate efficiency), most major newspapers were available online, Amazon was just selling books, Ebay was a useful national flea market, and MapQuest was available so you can print directions. Since then, I think the vast majority of "advances" in information technology have had more negative effects than positive. Facebook and Instagram have made us all depressed (because everyone else posts their best moments, making our own lives seem mundane). Twitter has everyone believing the world is going to end tomorrow. Amazon has destroyed the retail industry. Google is spying on us. And online video gaming has become so prevalent that kids don't go outside anymore so they end up obese and anti-social.

[Halcyon]

He should take all the time he needs. It's in the best interest of both parties that he is given ample time to recover from whatever he's dealing with. In terms of purely basketball, the team depth is good enough where they can cover while he deals with this.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

Yup. I think the Information Age peaked at about 1998. Email was widespread (which genuinely boosted corporate efficiency), most major newspapers were available online, Amazon was just selling books, Ebay was a useful national flea market, and MapQuest was available so you can print directions. Since then, I think the vast majority of "advances" in information technology have had more negative effects than positive. Facebook and Instagram have made us all depressed (because everyone else posts their best moments, making our own lives seem mundane). Twitter has everyone believing the world is going to end tomorrow. Amazon has destroyed the retail industry. Google is spying on us. And online video gaming has become so prevalent that kids don't go outside anymore so they end up obese and anti-social.

Couldn't agree more with you, nate33.

FB and IG are very depressing. There is much celebration of huge success stories and power couples. Hundreds of likes for the beautiful ones,

It's generally more negative than positive save for reconnecting with childhood friends.

[CobraCommander]

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

Yup. I think the Information Age peaked at about 1998. Email was widespread (which genuinely boosted corporate efficiency), most major newspapers were available online, Amazon was just selling books, Ebay was a useful national flea market, and MapQuest was available so you can print directions. Since then, I think the vast majority of "advances" in information technology have had more negative effects than positive. Facebook and Instagram have made us all depressed (because everyone else posts their best moments, making our own lives seem mundane). Twitter has everyone believing the world is going to end tomorrow. Amazon has destroyed the retail industry. Google is spying on us. And online video gaming has become so prevalent that kids don't go outside anymore so they end up obese and anti-social.

Couldn't agree more with you, nate33.

FB and IG are very depressing. There is much celebration of huge success stories and power couples. Hundreds of likes for the beautiful ones,

It's generally more negative than positive save for reconnecting with childhood friends.

I am not going to try to get in Rui’s head but Rui ain’t in the news in Japan like Lebron here. Rui is considered a winner In Japan already just by making the nba - he doesn’t have to win big to avoid criticism. Rui is considered a native son and all his highschool friends are normal people that have him on their treads like any other young man. Rui has one friend that is neet...the rest seem so basic talking about sneakers, food and demon slayer. No matter what y’all feel about his Olympic performance- he was talked about positively during and after the games. This kinda came out of nowhere and the rumors initially were family related and not mental health.

In America we talk about mental health - in Japan we talk about doing your job. In Japan your boss can still curse you out in public and HR ain’t getting involved. I just pray he is ok...

[DCZards]

In America we talk about mental health - in Japan we talk about doing your job. In Japan your boss can still curse you out in public and HR ain’t getting involved.

…maybe that’s why Japan has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
…

[CobraCommander]

In America we talk about mental health - in Japan we talk about doing your job. In Japan your boss can still curse you out in public and HR ain’t getting involved.

…maybe that’s why Japan has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
…

No offense but that’s not accurate and is a trope.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country

We/they have a culture of dying for what you believe in, and making your life count and honorable death but if I recall correctly we have a saying here in US “get rich or die tryin” .

We got HR here in USA and people killing themselves even faster

[I_Like_Dirt]

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

Yup. I think the Information Age peaked at about 1998. Email was widespread (which genuinely boosted corporate efficiency), most major newspapers were available online, Amazon was just selling books, Ebay was a useful national flea market, and MapQuest was available so you can print directions. Since then, I think the vast majority of "advances" in information technology have had more negative effects than positive. Facebook and Instagram have made us all depressed (because everyone else posts their best moments, making our own lives seem mundane). Twitter has everyone believing the world is going to end tomorrow. Amazon has destroyed the retail industry. Google is spying on us. And online video gaming has become so prevalent that kids don't go outside anymore so they end up obese and anti-social.

Not to derail this too much but I mostly agree except for the online video games part. Even back in 1998 it had been identified that kids who didn't play video games were often the anti-social ones. And there are plenty of gamers who are healthy weights and obese non-gamers and this was true back then too. AK47 loved his World of Warcarft back in the day. Diet is the bigger driver by a fair amount.

Where I do think games have gone wrong isn't that they exist but that they've generally only involved in ways to drive addictions to milk consumers - gambling and such along with the same data drivers of Facebook and Instagram. Games today have better graphics but that's about it and even that hasn't come outrageously far. We even have aot of the same games we did back in 98 or shortly after. Gaming marketing, on the other had, has evolved exponentially and it's a big problem. Movies aren't really that far off where it's Marvel or something like that or it's not likely to make it. And the marketing went from needing to sell expensive super unhealthy food to now data drivers on streaming.


And I wouldn't necessarily say we're worse off. Worse off in the data sense but better off in others. That 1998 lifestyle was even less sustainable expanded to the current world population and overall wealth than the one we have now.

[Dat2U]

Here's hoping Rui gets back sooner than later... it hasn't taken long for me to cool on the idea of Kuz starting.

[nate33]

Couldn’t agree more, warping minds at an unprecedented pace. I’m in the camp that our human minds haven’t evolved enough yet to cope with the rapid and vast amounts of information we are fed and asked to process on a daily basis. Social media hyper-exacerbates that cycle.

Yup. I think the Information Age peaked at about 1998. Email was widespread (which genuinely boosted corporate efficiency), most major newspapers were available online, Amazon was just selling books, Ebay was a useful national flea market, and MapQuest was available so you can print directions. Since then, I think the vast majority of "advances" in information technology have had more negative effects than positive. Facebook and Instagram have made us all depressed (because everyone else posts their best moments, making our own lives seem mundane). Twitter has everyone believing the world is going to end tomorrow. Amazon has destroyed the retail industry. Google is spying on us. And online video gaming has become so prevalent that kids don't go outside anymore so they end up obese and anti-social.

Not to derail this too much but I mostly agree except for the online video games part. Even back in 1998 it had been identified that kids who didn't play video games were often the anti-social ones. And there are plenty of gamers who are healthy weights and obese non-gamers and this was true back then too. AK47 loved his World of Warcarft back in the day. Diet is the bigger driver by a fair amount.

Fair point about gaming and social development. These days, kids put on their headsets, get into a Discord with 6 other guys, and play a game together and it's actually a fairly social endeavor. I know my son endured the lockdowns fairly painlessly because he had online interaction with his school friends. (It also helped that he ran cross country where he wasn't required to wear a mask while running, so he still got to talk to his friend face-to-face.)

[DCZards]

In America we talk about mental health - in Japan we talk about doing your job. In Japan your boss can still curse you out in public and HR ain’t getting involved.

…maybe that’s why Japan has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
…

No offense but that’s not accurate and is a trope.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country

We/they have a culture of dying for what you believe in, and making your life count and honorable death but if I recall correctly we have a saying here in US “get rich or die tryin” .

We got HR here in USA and people killing themselves even faster

From the article you posted:

Japan's total numbers place it significantly outside the top 10, but suicide is nonetheless a serious concern there. Suicide is the leading cause of death in men between the ages of 20-44 and women between the ages of 15-34. The government has been active in intervention to decrease the risk of suicide, particularly among vulnerable populations.

Japanese men are twice as likely to commit suicide as their female counterparts, particularly after a divorce. Of particular concern is suicide among men who have recently lost their jobs and are no longer able to provide for their families. People are expected to stay married to a single person and stay on a single job for their entire life, and the pressure of this expectation can make a divorce or job loss feel like a failure.

[CobraCommander]

…maybe that’s why Japan has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
…

No offense but that’s not accurate and is a trope.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country

We/they have a culture of dying for what you believe in, and making your life count and honorable death but if I recall correctly we have a saying here in US “get rich or die tryin” .

We got HR here in USA and people killing themselves even faster

From the article you posted:

Japan's total numbers place it significantly outside the top 10, but suicide is nonetheless a serious concern there. Suicide is the leading cause of death in men between the ages of 20-44 and women between the ages of 15-34. The government has been active in intervention to decrease the risk of suicide, particularly among vulnerable populations.

Japanese men are twice as likely to commit suicide as their female counterparts, particularly after a divorce. Of particular concern is suicide among men who have recently lost their jobs and are no longer able to provide for their families. People are expected to stay married to a single person and stay on a single job for their entire life, and the pressure of this expectation can make a divorce or job loss feel like a failure.

One -thanks for reading the article. Often I find myself trying to educate friends in cultural tropes only to find that facts don’t matter. Japan suicide culture is real. IMO the US has a worse problem based on numbers but both countries have to figure out why healthy young (sub 60) people are hopeless enough to off themselves. Mental illness coupled with society pressure with a dash of drugs/drinking and lack of support

[2Fluffy4U]

So.. how about demon slayer? just finished watching s01 and it is so well made.. (animation wise).. I wonder how culture is being portrayed via Anime.. Demon Slayer has the expected 'never give up' 'thinking and not muscles' 'family is most important' 'being shy in front of girls is a given'.. and my hero academia Anime is like having D.Trump washed all over the tv screen and yelling Detroit!!? (sorry for derailing)

[Frichuela]

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