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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#161 » by nate33 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 7:18 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Barton has a decision to make. He can either accept a Udonis Haslem type mentor who very seldom if ever plays; or, he can request a trade to a contender. Barring trades there’s no way he beats out Wright or Jordan Godwin. Deni is far more effective than Will Barton. Rui is killing it. Kuzma at SF means Barton is out.

Barton SHOULD ask to be traded to the Lakers for a 2nd rounder. Them or another team out west.

Who the hell is Barton and why should he have standing to ask to be traded anywhere? Barton is a professional basketball player. His job is to show up to work and do his best to earn the $14M he is being paid. That's it. If he is not getting minutes, he needs to play better.

Barton will be a free agent this summer. He will then have the opportunity to join a contender if he wishes, but it will most likely be on a vet minimum contract.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#162 » by WallToWall » Mon Feb 6, 2023 12:39 am

I’m done with WUJ.
He can’t figure out rotations, can’t stick with a hot hand, favors his former players, can’t figure out when to call timeouts, can’t make adjustments. Coaching matters, and he doesn’t have it to be a head coach (yet). Nice guy, and well spoken, but he has to go.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#163 » by DCZards » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:10 am

WallToWall wrote:I’m done with WUJ.
He can’t figure out rotations, can’t stick with a hot hand, favors his former players, can’t figure out when to call timeouts, can’t make adjustments. Coaching matters, and he doesn’t have it to be a head coach (yet). Nice guy, and well spoken, but he has to go.

What former players does he favor? Barton is collecting DNPs and Morris is getting quality minutes…as he should because he’s playing well.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#164 » by WallToWall » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:13 am

DCZards wrote:
WallToWall wrote:I’m done with WUJ.
He can’t figure out rotations, can’t stick with a hot hand, favors his former players, can’t figure out when to call timeouts, can’t make adjustments. Coaching matters, and he doesn’t have it to be a head coach (yet). Nice guy, and well spoken, but he has to go.

What former players does he favor? Barton is collecting DNPs and Morris is getting quality minutes…as he should because he’s playing well.

I was referring to Morris. I don’t think Morris is playing well on D. He should fall behind Goodwin on the depth chart, yet he gets (undeserved) playing time. He is not a 28min/game player, which is what he is averaging.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#165 » by tleikheen » Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:46 am

Morris has been getting smoked since the beginning of the yr.Morris is as advertised ,makes his 3's ,doesnt turn the ball over but he gets abused over and over defensively. Denver fleeced the Wiz getting KCP for Morris and Barton and that has played out. The Wiz appeased WUJ and got him his players and someone needs to be held accountable because this trade was a bad one.
Sadly I think WUJ stays until Shepard is fired.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#166 » by gambitx777 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:30 pm

Let's not pretend KCP has been anything but below most of his career averages this year. He's been decent but not that good. He's shooting ok but he's with a couple elite passers.

I would say sure in hind sight keep KCP and go find a PG on the open market. Kicking the tires on some vet min guys like Denis shouder, Smith Jr, Jeremy lin, kemba, cooper.
Or own own G leage guys. Would have been better I believe.

But we will see what happened at the dead like. I would love to see us make some trades.try do get some flexibility on the roster.

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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#167 » by FAH1223 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 4:01 pm

Guys, this is the Wes APPRECIATION THREAD. You can trash him in the Amazingly Sucky Thread!!

I appreciate Wes' coaching from December 20, 2022 until January 31, 2023!
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Post#168 » by leswizards » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:32 pm

DCZards wrote:
WallToWall wrote:I’m done with WUJ.
He can’t figure out rotations, can’t stick with a hot hand, favors his former players, can’t figure out when to call timeouts, can’t make adjustments. Coaching matters, and he doesn’t have it to be a head coach (yet). Nice guy, and well spoken, but he has to go.

What former players does he favor? Barton is collecting DNPs and Morris is getting quality minutes…as he should because he’s playing well.


It took him 33 games to bench Barton. I would hardly consider Wes’ handling of Barton as a sign of successful coaching.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#169 » by DCZards » Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:33 pm

leswizards wrote:
DCZards wrote:
WallToWall wrote:I’m done with WUJ.
He can’t figure out rotations, can’t stick with a hot hand, favors his former players, can’t figure out when to call timeouts, can’t make adjustments. Coaching matters, and he doesn’t have it to be a head coach (yet). Nice guy, and well spoken, but he has to go.

What former players does he favor? Barton is collecting DNPs and Morris is getting quality minutes…as he should because he’s playing well.


It took him 33 games to bench Barton. I would hardly consider Wes’ handling of Barton as a sign of successful coaching.

Are you suggesting the Wes should never have played Barton? That he should not have been given a chance to produce.

Barton has not played well with the Zards. No argument there. But he has played decently in the past as a Nugget. And there are reportedly several teams interested in signing Barton if he's bought out by the Zards.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#170 » by nate33 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:43 pm

DCZards wrote:
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DCZards wrote:What former players does he favor? Barton is collecting DNPs and Morris is getting quality minutes…as he should because he’s playing well.


It took him 33 games to bench Barton. I would hardly consider Wes’ handling of Barton as a sign of successful coaching.

Are you suggesting the Wes should never have played Barton? That he should not have been given a chance to produce.

Barton has not played well with the Zards. No argument there. But he has played decently in the past as a Nugget. And there are reportedly several teams interested in signing Barton if he's bought out by the Zards.

And it wasn't like Barton was taking a lot of minutes from more worthy guys. With Rui and Beal both out a lot, it was legitimately necessary to play Barton 10-20 minutes a night behind Kispert and Avdija at wing. Like it or not, the team is trying to win. They're not just going to play Davis when he is this awful.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#171 » by leswizards » Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:55 pm

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It took him 33 games to bench Barton. I would hardly consider Wes’ handling of Barton as a sign of successful coaching.

Are you suggesting the Wes should never have played Barton? That he should not have been given a chance to produce.

Barton has not played well with the Zards. No argument there. But he has played decently in the past as a Nugget. And there are reportedly several teams interested in signing Barton if he's bought out by the Zards.

And it wasn't like Barton was taking a lot of minutes from more worthy guys. With Rui and Beal both out a lot, it was legitimately necessary to play Barton 10-20 minutes a night behind Kispert and Avdija at wing. Like it or not, the team is trying to win. They're not just going to play Davis when he is this awful.


First, I respect that this is the appreciation thread. So, I will move my response to the sucky thread.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#172 » by daSwami » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:59 pm

Before this gets merged with the Sucky thread, I want to express my appreciation to WUJ, as his tenure here serves as a constant reminder of just how lousy of a coach his father was also.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#173 » by FAH1223 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:07 pm

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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#174 » by AFM » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:15 pm

That's cool. They should wear 911 for Crittenton next.
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Post#175 » by badinage » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:17 pm

daSwami wrote:Before this gets merged with the Sucky thread, I want to express my appreciation to WUJ, as his tenure here serves as a constant reminder of just how lousy of a coach his father was also.


This is not correct. He was a good coach. Got the most out of a starless and very limited group of players. They played hard, they played for each other, they were tough.

As a GM? It pains me to say, because he was a legend as a player and a very good man — as a GM, he was abysmal.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#176 » by daSwami » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:56 pm

badinage wrote:
daSwami wrote:Before this gets merged with the Sucky thread, I want to express my appreciation to WUJ, as his tenure here serves to remind us that the mediocrity of this franchise spans generations.


This is not correct. He was a good coach. Got the most out of a starless and very limited group of players. They played hard, they played for each other, they were tough.

As a GM? It pains me to say, because he was a legend as a player and a very good man — as a GM, he was abysmal.


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Post#177 » by Halcyon » Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:49 pm

I want to give him props for going to zone in the Minnesota game. Sparked the turnaround and stifled Minnesota's offense. It also seems like his timeout usage has improved.
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Post#178 » by FAH1223 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:53 pm

Halcyon wrote:I want to give him props for going to zone in the Minnesota game. Sparked the turnaround and stifled Minnesota's offense. It also seems like his timeout usage has improved.


He also went to a zone against Portland when they were going on a run.

I also noticed it on Saturday against Indiana.

Wes has been coaching his ass off lately.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, Appreciation Thread. 

Post#179 » by payitforward » Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:06 am

Weird to me how much anti-WUJ stuff has been hurled here during a run where we've gone 17-10. That's @ a 52-win pace.
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Post#180 » by leswizards » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:39 pm

payitforward wrote:Weird to me how much anti-WUJ stuff has been hurled here during a run where we've gone 17-10. That's @ a 52-win pace.


During this 27 game period you have still been hurling your anti shepherd and anti wizards talent stuff. Considering that this 17-10 stretch has coincided with wuj finally playing Gafford more minutes (something many anti wuj people had wanted for over a season and a half), and the return of Delon Wright, which statement seems more accurate:

Wuj is such a great coach that even though the Wizards have an incompetent gm who should be fired for his inability to get this team talent, he (ie wuj) has the wizards team playing at a 52 win pace.

Or

Tommy Shepherd has amassed such talent on this team that it is capable of winning at a 52 game pace in spite of having an incompetent coach who consistently gets less out of his players than they are capable of giving, and who continuously gives way to many minutes to a player (Kyle Kuzma) who is arguably one of his worst players to get consistent minutes.
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