Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

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Gonna be hard to get the air back in the balloon....

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I hope Deni comes here and lights us up for 43 points, 15 rebounds and 3 assists next time we play Portland.

Apparently, I need to remind management that he has done it before.

It's pretty inconceivable that they'd sign him to a terrific contract and yet trade him away.

Deni deserves to be in Portland, where he's going to be appreciated.

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[Silvie Lysandra]

yeah i want winger fired right now, and the Presti tree should be persona non grata for any franchise that actually wants to win a ring. They all fundamentally suffer from the same issue of not knowing how to evaluate in house talent (which is how you end up paying Kendrick Perkins instead of James Harden and how you get bounced in R2 buy low trades there for the taking with more assets than you know what to do with).I won't be surprised if Winger uses these assets well, but you'll never win a title with these people because they have no idea how to manage their assets in a holistic manner. These Moneyball guys never win in the end because they're great tacticians, but absolute **** strategists, and this is no exception.

[pancakes3]

Silver lining, the collective hatred got a lot of posters I haven't seen in a while to post again. Hi lurkers!

[Silvie Lysandra]

It's also very clear they value Kuzma way higher than reasonable (Kuzma, then Kispert, were more reasonable trade targets to free up PT for Bilal), which is exactly the mistake Presti made in OKC. Again, terrible strategists. Talent eval is only one part of building a winner.

I think the only defense for this trade is that there's a distinct possibility Deni might have ruined the tank. The team is basically a fringe playoff team when he plays.

[gambitx777]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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[Silvie Lysandra]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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yeah i know 100% for sure this was a **** trade, thanks

[TGW]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

We are going to wake up tomorrow morning with Kuzma and Poole still on this roster, while Deni is in the NW. Really still think I'm going to wake up from this nightmare.

I would have at least been glad if they gave traded him to OKC (you telling me they couldn't have offered better) or another playoff team, so he can finally show out for a team serious about winning.

This is a through-and-through EG-level horrendous trade. People trying to talk about a 2029 draft pick that is a complete crap shoot.

[joshuacf]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

Dude, relax. We got 2 FRP's plus Brogdon who could net another FRP if he stays healthy.

That's potentially 3 FRP's for a guy who has one good season under his belt and isn't anywhere near Mikal Bridges, who just went for 5 FRP's. Look at what everyone is saying about that trade. 5 FRP's for Mikal is an overpay by the Knicks but 3 FRP's for Deni is a terrible trade on our part?

If Brogdon nets us another FRP, it's a fine trade. Success in the NBA is built on having superstars and we have none. Deni is a nice player, but he has no chance to be a superstar. Until we have a superstar might as well keep taking shots in the draft until we find one.

[dckingsfan]

back to #soWizards

[dckingsfan]

I just don't get it. Kuzma I get , Kispert ok... But Deni was our best player, still very young, on a good contract. Shouldn't that be a building block??

Exactly...

[leswizards]

... if the Wizards get Edey at 14, I am going to love this trade.

That's the only rationale I've been able to wrap my mind around. But, how certain can they be that Edey will still be there? & if not...?

If they get topic, I will still love the trade.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

Dude, relax. We got 2 FRP's plus Brogdon who could net another FRP if he stays healthy.

That's potentially 3 FRP's for a guy who has one good season under his belt and isn't anywhere near Mikal Bridges, who just went for 5 FRP's. Look at what everyone is saying about that trade. 5 FRP's for Mikal is an overpay by the Knicks but 3 FRP's for Deni is a terrible trade on our part?

If Brogdon nets us another FRP, it's a fine trade. Success in the NBA is built on having superstars and we have none. Deni is a nice player, but he has no chance to be a superstar. Until we have a superstar might as well keep taking shots in the draft until we find one.

Brogdon isn't netting a first rounder, you are delusional. That 2029 pick is complete unknown, and the one tangible asset we have is a pick in one of the worst drafts in years. Maybe -maybe I you could reason if we got a pick in next years draft - this was the move to make. But we panicked and we traded literally the only piece on this team, other than some flashes from Bilal, that was a young, promising talent.

Dawkins made a vindictive move, wasting a young piece because it wasn't his guy. Aldridge even said as much. It's complete Busch League mismanagement of an asset at best. Dawkins better pray to god Deni doesn't keep improving. Even at his current level of production going forward there would have been a ton of contenders we could have maybe gotten a much more tangible haul from.

[gambitx777]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

Why are we pretending like Debi was an all star? Let's be honest about what deni was. As good young player on a good contract. Per 14 14 ppg an ok ish shooter and an above average Defender who was never very aggressive and a bit hesitant. He got 2 firsts one being a loto pick and 2 seconds. That is a good return. I hate it cuz I don't see why we had to trade him. But to pretend it's a bad trade is silly.

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[Dat2U]

Sounds like a lock Sarr is coming to DC. Kuzma plays the 4, Sarr says he's playing the 4, Deni is also best at the 4. Hopefully Kuzma is gone too but it makes sense to get what you can for Deni. Think his value was pretty high after he got the keys the last 10 games of the season.

Actually it sounds more like Risacher to replace Avdija. I think that's who they are targeting (he's #1 on their board according to a few tapped in) and maybe that 26th pick gets moved while Atlanta is on the clock to secure it.

You shut your mouth!

At least I was wrong about this!

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

The level of just silly in these reactions. It's good value for deni. Should we have moved him. NO! It is a bad trade also no!

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I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

Why are we pretending like Debi was an all star? Let's be honest about what deni was. As good young player on a good contract. Per 14 14 ppg an ok ish shooter and an above average Defender who was never very aggressive and a bit hesitant. He got 2 firsts one being a loto pick and 2 seconds. That is a good return. I hate it cuz I don't see why we had to trade him. But to pretend it's a bad trade is silly.

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1 spot to being a pick out of the lottery and a pandoras box of 2029 pick. It's bad asset management even taking the emotion out of it.

[joshuacf]

Brogdon isn't netting a first rounder, you are delusional.

Why not? He's expiring money and a good player when healthy.

That 2029 pick is complete unknown

Ok? That's how trade packages work. You don't get 3 FRP's back to back to back.

and the one tangible asset we have is a pick in one of the worst drafts in years

And Brogdon, and a 2029 first.

Even at his current level of production going forward there would have been a ton of contenders we could have maybe gotten a much more tangible haul from.

LMAOOO. Yeah contenders were really lining up to throw 5 FRP's for a guy who averages 14.7 ppg on a terrible team.

[Endless Loop]

I know that you’re the eternal optimist but cut it out. this is **** and you know it.

The wizards are the laughing stock of the NBA.

Dude, relax. We got 2 FRP's plus Brogdon who could net another FRP if he stays healthy.

That's potentially 3 FRP's for a guy who has one good season under his belt and isn't anywhere near Mikal Bridges, who just went for 5 FRP's. Look at what everyone is saying about that trade. 5 FRP's for Mikal is an overpay by the Knicks but 3 FRP's for Deni is a terrible trade on our part?

If Brogdon nets us another FRP, it's a fine trade. Success in the NBA is built on having superstars and we have none. Deni is a nice player, but he has no chance to be a superstar. Until we have a superstar might as well keep taking shots in the draft until we find one.

Brogdon isn't netting a first rounder, you are delusional. That 2029 pick is complete unknown, and the one tangible asset we have is a pick in one of the worst drafts in years. Maybe -maybe I you could reason if we got a pick in next years draft - this was the move to make. But we panicked and we traded literally the only piece on this team, other than some flashes from Bilal, that was a young, promising talent.

Dawkins made a vindictive move, wasting a young piece because it wasn't his guy. Aldridge even said as much. It's complete Busch League mismanagement of an asset at best. Dawkins better pray to god Deni doesn't keep improving. Even at his current level of production going forward there would have been a ton of contenders we could have maybe gotten a much more tangible haul from.

But it's Dawkins who signed him to the team-friendly contract, as one of his first actions. He "owns" that good contract. When Dawkins signed Deni to the extension, Deni more or less became one of "his guys". I don't think this is an ego blunder. It's a talent evaluation and economic blunder.

[trast66]

Deni isn’t a top 100 player and he wouldn’t be on the team when we are ready to compete. Very fair return for Deni and happy we have a commitment to a real rebuild.

We are betting all on our ability (and luck) to draft a superstar. That’s the process.