Trae Young, Come on DOWN
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Don’t understand the focus on Schlenk. He didn’t trade for Trae. Winger and Dawkins did. They should get the blame or credit.Menace2Sobriety wrote:…and the GM that made that trade now works for the Wizards and just traded for Trae.
Ultimately, we didn’t give up assets for a former all-star, and the success will be measured on maintaining our pick, and whether and for how much Trae is extended.
That Schlenk is enamored by Trae gives me great pause moving forward.
Sure Schlenk probably had input…but it wasn’t his call.
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AFM wrote:prime1time wrote:closg00 wrote:Kevin Broom gives the trade a C+, the lowest grade I have seen.
Being honest how can you grade a trade one day after it's done lol.
Kevin admits to not watching any basketball, and his track record frankly has been absolutely terrible recently.
His track record on what has been terrible recently?
Kevin is strictly a data analytics guy who lets the data speak for itself, it’s an in exact science, but he has some hits with his YODA model.
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I’m pretty meh on this overall, how I feel will depend so much on
1. Do we let Trae ruin our tank?
2. Do we sign him for an above market extension?
3. Can we trade him next year for anything, when he’s closer to the end of his contract?
Best case scenario : we tank and get a top 3 pick, then use Trae as matching salary with future picks to get a disgruntled superstar and really supercharge the rebuild
1. Do we let Trae ruin our tank?
2. Do we sign him for an above market extension?
3. Can we trade him next year for anything, when he’s closer to the end of his contract?
Best case scenario : we tank and get a top 3 pick, then use Trae as matching salary with future picks to get a disgruntled superstar and really supercharge the rebuild
Making extreme statements like "only" sounds like there are "no" Jokics in this draft? Jokic is an engine that was drafted in the 2nd round. Always a chance to see diamond dropped by sloppy burgular after a theft.
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We should just let Trae and Tre have a 3 pt contest in game from the logo the final 2 months of the season.
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AFM wrote:You know I love this board and have learned a lot from you all, but sometimes this board leans too hard into contrarianism and the "ACTUALLY we know better" mentality. I mean, someone actually said that people in the Wiz FO need to be FIRED for trading Corey Kispert for Trae Young. That might be the funniest thing ever written on realGM.
If Trae Young leads the wizards to a 32 win season and a ninth worst finish in the lottery so that they lose the pick, then management absolutely should be fired.
This trade is hunky-dory so long as they have a plan to ensure the tank this year. But if the tank fails, this will be one of the worst moves in history - totally inexplicable.
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nate33 wrote:AFM wrote:You know I love this board and have learned a lot from you all, but sometimes this board leans too hard into contrarianism and the "ACTUALLY we know better" mentality. I mean, someone actually said that people in the Wiz FO need to be FIRED for trading Corey Kispert for Trae Young. That might be the funniest thing ever written on realGM.
If Trae Young leads the wizards to a 32 win season and a ninth worst finish in the lottery so that they lose the pick, then management absolutely should be fired.
This trade is hunky-dory so long as they have a plan to ensure the tank this year. But if the tank fails, this will be one of the worst moves in history - totally inexplicable.
This. Having said that, I think the odds of the Wizards losing the pick are close to zero. Giving his injuries this season, it will be easy for Dawkins to justify to the league sitting Trae for many of the games remaining this season. Something that it would have been more difficult with CJ...
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Isaiah Thomas supporting the trade is the clearest indication it’s a horrible deal for Washington. His run of terror as a GM cycled through the biggest bag of loser destructive PGs. Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury. Carbon copy of Trae Young.
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payitforward wrote:I've now read enough positive responses to this trade that I'm willing to rethink my dislike. As long as Trae doesn't "help" us to a lower trade pick next June, there's no immediate downside to the trade.
I'm sure he'll pick up his option for next year, but our salary profile is low enough that it shouldn't lead to any negative effects. &, who knows, maybe Trae being here will entice a FA we like to look our way? That would be good....
As to what happens after next year, that's a long way off in NBAland. Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to trade him at next year's deadline...? For draft capital...?
The fact that CJ likes the front office -- and that Trae's camp ultimately stated that this was a preferred destination for him -- all plays well to other top talent. It has only been since this front office was hired that we have heard these sorts of public endorsements. Even to the extent that top draft picks have maneuvered to land here. These are hopeful signs. Ideally that translates ultimately into free agency or our players re-inking here with a hometown discount.
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nate33 wrote:AFM wrote:You know I love this board and have learned a lot from you all, but sometimes this board leans too hard into contrarianism and the "ACTUALLY we know better" mentality. I mean, someone actually said that people in the Wiz FO need to be FIRED for trading Corey Kispert for Trae Young. That might be the funniest thing ever written on realGM.
If Trae Young leads the wizards to a 32 win season and a ninth worst finish in the lottery so that they lose the pick, then management absolutely should be fired.
This trade is hunky-dory so long as they have a plan to ensure the tank this year. But if the tank fails, this will be one of the worst moves in history - totally inexplicable.
Do you really think Dawkins and Co just forgot about the 2026 draft. I mean, be serious for a second.
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Rafael122 wrote:I'll leave with this: if you asked yourself 2 years ago or whenever Brad was traded that you will eventually trade him and get Trae Young, 4 pick swaps and 6 second round picks, what would your reaction be?
And that those 2nd rounders became a player with Kyshawn's stats/trajectory (we used a PHX 2nd to trade up).
Plus young raw athletic talents like Cam Whitmore, AJJ. (The CJ and Kuzma trades used PHX 2nd + Baldwin who we got in the Paul deal)
Plus 2-3 first round picks (the Portland/Bucks pick, the Suns 2030 pick, the top 20 protected GSW pick).
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AFM wrote:nate33 wrote:AFM wrote:You know I love this board and have learned a lot from you all, but sometimes this board leans too hard into contrarianism and the "ACTUALLY we know better" mentality. I mean, someone actually said that people in the Wiz FO need to be FIRED for trading Corey Kispert for Trae Young. That might be the funniest thing ever written on realGM.
If Trae Young leads the wizards to a 32 win season and a ninth worst finish in the lottery so that they lose the pick, then management absolutely should be fired.
This trade is hunky-dory so long as they have a plan to ensure the tank this year. But if the tank fails, this will be one of the worst moves in history - totally inexplicable.
Do you really think Dawkins and Co just forgot about the 2026 draft. I mean, be serious for a second.
I hope not. But I also understand that ownership can only endure losing and low ticket sales for so long. It’s up to management to convince ownership to follow a coherent, long-term strategy.
We will see if that’s the case.
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AFM wrote:nate33 wrote:AFM wrote:You know I love this board and have learned a lot from you all, but sometimes this board leans too hard into contrarianism and the "ACTUALLY we know better" mentality. I mean, someone actually said that people in the Wiz FO need to be FIRED for trading Corey Kispert for Trae Young. That might be the funniest thing ever written on realGM.
If Trae Young leads the wizards to a 32 win season and a ninth worst finish in the lottery so that they lose the pick, then management absolutely should be fired.
This trade is hunky-dory so long as they have a plan to ensure the tank this year. But if the tank fails, this will be one of the worst moves in history - totally inexplicable.
Do you really think Dawkins and Co just forgot about the 2026 draft. I mean, be serious for a second.
Yeah, I think you are right. I am starting to get myself off the ledge here. There are several reporters saying that Trey will be sitting out a good portion of the season. I think the tank is safe. Now the only fear for me is that he signs some sort of lucrative deal here.
I think the worst-case scenario now is that we sign him to a lucrative deal after an injury-riddled year (hello, Arenas and Wall!). The best-case scenario is that he plays next year and performs well, and we do some sort of sign-and-trade at next year's trade deadline and either get another all-star or some draft capital for him. The most likely scenario is somewhere in between, where he plays relatively well, but not near how he played a few years ago, and we give him a 3-year deal worth $120m.
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I figure whether or not Trae resigns will be contingent on who we draft. If we draft a big, we will have a pretty strong need for a point guard, and Trae Young would make pretty good sense. If we draft a ball handler, then Trae would be an overpriced luxury that we don’t need.
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so basically we get no CJ, who was winning us games, and no Trae, for the rest of the year, lock in our lottery pick, then get a year of Trae, who is number 3 all time assists/game, with all of our young guys to see how that works out, for the cost of Corey Kispert.
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nate33 wrote:I figure whether or not Trae resigns will be contingent on who we draft. If we draft a big, we will have a pretty strong need for a point guard, and Trae Young would make pretty good sense. If we draft a ball handler, then Trae would be an overpriced luxury that we don’t need.
Maybe I need to post this on the draft thread, but what if we pick third and both Dybansta and Boozer are off the board. Do we take the best available in Petterson?








