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Re: Tracking Former Wizards 3.0 

Post#161 » by nate33 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:40 pm

Man, that's messed up. I always liked Popeye Jones.
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Post#162 » by jholmbe1 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:44 pm

Zerocious wrote:wasn't john wall on our squad for a minute this or last summer? he gets to go back to college? what's the story?


Not sure who you are referring to but it definitely was not john wall. he is the consensus top freshman in the ncaa this year and probs the likely #1 pick in the draft next year.
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Post#163 » by Severn Hoos » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:05 pm

Aaron Miles was on our SL team a couple years ago. I liked him - steady distributor at PG, nothing special. Aaron Brooks was a late 1st round pick of the Rockets and has been there his whole career. And in case anyone wasn't aware, CCJ was really high on him and said the Wiz should have drafted him (over Young, IIRC?).

Not sure who Zero is thinking of named Wall...
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Post#164 » by LyricalRico » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:25 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Aaron Miles was on our SL team a couple years ago. I liked him - steady distributor at PG, nothing special.


Agree on Miles. I thought I saw him playing for Denver in pre-season (curious why he'd go there since they already have Billups, Carter, and now Lawson) but I could be wrong. He's a guy I'd look at next summer if we're looking for a cheap backup PG.
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Post#165 » by closg00 » Wed Nov 4, 2009 3:22 am

Etan on his way to a double-double vs the Lakers : 10 rebounds, 2 blocked shots and 6 pts in 28 minutes.
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Post#166 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Wed Nov 4, 2009 10:39 am

You were right about Eddie Jordan, let me hold my breath:..............


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Post#167 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Nov 4, 2009 11:04 am

Severn Hoos wrote:Aaron Miles was on our SL team a couple years ago. I liked him - steady distributor at PG, nothing special. Aaron Brooks was a late 1st round pick of the Rockets and has been there his whole career. And in case anyone wasn't aware, CCJ was really high on him and said the Wiz should have drafted him (over Young, IIRC?).

Not sure who Zero is thinking of named Wall...


I really wanted Morris Almond in that draft, in all honesty. Stuckey was off the board but felt he'd be a (better than he's shown) player. Also wanted Belinelli. I wanted a lot of guys before Young, Sev.

But yeah, you do recall correctly, Sev. What Brooks did in the Pac-10 was way more impressive to me than what Young did the same season. Brooks could really score and distribute, and it's carried over to the NBA.
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Post#168 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Nov 4, 2009 11:08 am

closg00 wrote:Etan on his way to a double-double vs the Lakers : 10 rebounds, 2 blocked shots and 6 pts in 28 minutes.

After the Cavs game and after seeing Popeye Jones face and the predicament he's in, I'm glad there's good news on some level.

I'm really happy for Etan Thomas. He's playing back where he went to HS and he's playing well. Might be the starting C for that team pretty soon if he keeps up the way he's playing.
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Post#169 » by closg00 » Wed Nov 4, 2009 12:31 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:Etan on his way to a double-double vs the Lakers : 10 rebounds, 2 blocked shots and 6 pts in 28 minutes.

After the Cavs game and after seeing Popeye Jones face and the predicament he's in, I'm glad there's good news on some level.

I'm really happy for Etan Thomas. He's playing back where he went to HS and he's playing well. Might be the starting C for that team pretty soon if he keeps up the way he's playing.


The funny thing is that although Etan was not the starter (Kristic was) Etan played nearly double the minutes, 34 minutes to Kristics 18. So OKC is getting their monies-worth out of Etan.
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Post#170 » by DaRealHibachi » Wed Nov 4, 2009 12:33 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:You were right about Eddie Jordan, let me hold my breath:..............


AHHHHHH!


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Post#171 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:54 am

Stewie had 24 and 8 as Minny almost beat Boston, 90-92.

No other player for either team had more than 18 (Al Jefferson).

Pecherov played 34 minutes.

NOTE: Through 5 games, Pecherov is averaging in the neighborhood of 21 points, 9 rebounds per 36 mins with a PER of over 22.

(This as Etan Thomas is poised to start for the Thunder)
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Post#172 » by LyricalRico » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:27 am

The only reason Pesh is even seeing the court is because of injury. Nobody expected this, not even Minnesota when they got him in the trade IMO. But give the guy credit for taking advantage of an opportunity. If anything it vindicates Grunfeld for seeing his talent in the first place (and is another reason to hate EJ/Tapscott for not playing him).

Even so, were Pesh not part of the trade, he still wouldn't see any minutes over Blatche or McGee so we probably wouldn't be seeing any of this if he was still here.
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Post#173 » by nate33 » Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:21 pm

I note that Pecherov has attempted 41 field goals this season but only 9 of them were from 3 point range. That's the big difference for him this year. Less than 25% of his shots are 3-pointers. In his last 3 seasons under EJ, nearly 50% of his shots were three pointers.
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Post#174 » by Zerocious » Thu Nov 5, 2009 1:31 pm

nate33 wrote:I note that Pecherov has attempted 41 field goals this season but only 9 of them were from 3 point range. That's the big difference for him this year. Less than 25% of his shots are 3-pointers. In his last 3 seasons under EJ, nearly 50% of his shots were three pointers.


are they running plays for him?
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Post#175 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 5, 2009 11:27 pm

LyricalRico wrote:The only reason Pesh is even seeing the court is because of injury. Nobody expected this, not even Minnesota when they got him in the trade IMO. But give the guy credit for taking advantage of an opportunity. If anything it vindicates Grunfeld for seeing his talent in the first place (and is another reason to hate EJ/Tapscott for not playing him).

Even so, were Pesh not part of the trade, he still wouldn't see any minutes over Blatche or McGee so we probably wouldn't be seeing any of this if he was still here.

Washington should have received either the #18 or the #28 for including Pecherov in the deal.

The deal was #5 pick, Songaila, Thomas, Pecherov for Miller and Foye.

Minnesota sold the #18 for cash (that could have been Washington's). That pick was Lawson. Lawson just went 9-10 last night and had 23 points. He's probably better than Foye IMO.

The #28 pick was used for Wayne Ellington.
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Post#176 » by LyricalRico » Fri Nov 6, 2009 1:36 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:The only reason Pesh is even seeing the court is because of injury. Nobody expected this, not even Minnesota when they got him in the trade IMO. But give the guy credit for taking advantage of an opportunity. If anything it vindicates Grunfeld for seeing his talent in the first place (and is another reason to hate EJ/Tapscott for not playing him).

Even so, were Pesh not part of the trade, he still wouldn't see any minutes over Blatche or McGee so we probably wouldn't be seeing any of this if he was still here.


Washington should have received either the #18 or the #28 for including Pecherov in the deal.


Pure hindsight if you're basing that on what Pecherov has done recently, and that's my point.
The fact that Minny wasn't willing to give up anything else shows that Pesh wasn't viewed as much more than a throw-in at that point. Heck, Minny might have been willing to give up the pick at first but took it off the table when EG wanted them to take Pesh's contract to help trim our luxury tax hit. Have you considered that?

The point I'm making is that you can't use a "breakout" that 1) has only lasted several games and 2) absolutely nobody on either side saw coming as a reason to retro-actively bash the trade. Revisionist history can only be used to bash EJ. 8-)
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Post#177 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:36 am

LR, I said before the trade I thought Pecherov had Mehmet Okur-like potential. I recall saying allow Pecherov to play at PF and get as many shots and minutes as Jamison and he'll put up good numbers in points and rebounds.

Through their first 5 games Pecherov's PER (24.8) is as high as Blatche's (24.1).
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Post#178 » by W. Unseld » Fri Nov 6, 2009 3:24 pm

Sorry if this has already been posted but this is so hard to picture and apparently it's true since 5 people had called in to report him:
Dallas assistant coach Popeye Jones was arrested for driving while intoxicated after five witnesses called police to report that he was driving erratically.

After failing to comply with officers' instructions, Jones was taken to the ground, according to the report.

"Officers were finally able to handcuff Jones using two sets of handcuffs," the report read. "Even while handcuffed Jones attempted to grab at Officer Marshall's leg. While taking Jones into custody he received several scrapes from the concrete to his face."
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Post#179 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 6, 2009 6:19 pm

it is usually not a good idea to resist arrest

speaking of which, I just recently learned on FB that one
of my contemporaries who I had not seen in many many
years died 2 years ago. Last I heard he was completely
out of control and would attempt (while drunk) to fight
cops. The first thing alcohol affects is one's judgement.
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

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Post#180 » by closg00 » Fri Nov 6, 2009 6:52 pm

:lol: Blame EJ & Wiz "player development" for Pech breaking-out.

Timberwolves forward Oleksiy Pecherov has become the team's most improved player, and he's done it in the past three games. When Pecherov, as Wolves coach Kurt Rambis puts it, "learns how to compete in this league and gets a better understanding of our offense and defense," the Wolves might get quality production out of a player they weren't sure about.

The 7-foot Pecherov, a three-year veteran from Ukraine, came to the Wolves from the Washington Wizards in June in the draft-day trade that shipped out Mike Miller and Randy Foye. Pecherov was a relative unknown, but that could change.

Rambis has started Percherov the past four games, and his career-high 24 points against Boston Wednesday night will keep him in the starting lineup.

One thing that is already clear about Pech: He has the best shooting touch on the team. For a 7-footer, he could be a role model on shooting technique. He has a quick, smooth delivery, which makes it hard for opposing players to bother his shot. As a spot-up shooter on the baseline or from three-point distance, Pech is by far the Wolves' best performer.

What really stood out in the Wolves' tough loss to the Celtics is that Pech scored 10 of his 24 in the fourth quarter to keep the Wolves in position to win. His best of the night came with 4 1/2 minutes left when he posted up Celtics guard Paul Pierce and drove past him for a clutch layup.

So when Pech learns the nuances Rambis was talking about, Pech should be an enjoyable player to watch the rest of the season. This is a critical season for Pech. He was told Monday by Wolves president of basketball operations David Kahn that his contract will not be extended. Pech will have to earn a new deal based on how he plays over the next 77 games. Right now, Pech is making a strong case for himself.

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