Dat2U wrote:pancakes3 wrote:Dat2U wrote:
I'm not a bot but 8 months from my last comment in this thread and I'm still forever 'f the dems' after the covid vaccine mandates. I can't stand 99% of the republican politicians and I disagree with them on alot of issues but I will happily vote for anyone that's against mandating **** vaccine (especially on our kids). I had no intention of ever being a republican or a one issue voter but here am I, disillusioned at a political party that I once strongly supported.
ok but
1) there was never a vax mandate
This is a COMPLETE lie and really disingenious on your part. Where do I begin? The Biden admin tried with the fed employee & contractor mandates (which directly impacted my employment), Democratic cities such as DC, NY and the state of california had mandates in place. How do I know? I couldn't eat a restaurant, bar or even go to a Wizards games for months earlier this year without having to show proof of my vaccination status. Many many school districts have been mandating it as well.2) we vax for other things
What other vaccines use Messenger RNA technoology that you've taken? Messenger RNA vaccines and the vaccines we were mandated as a child are not the same at all.3) it's not a sh*t vaccine, there are literally millions of people the world over that want our vaccines and can't get it
It doesn't stop infection. The more boosters taken, the greater the risk of infection. African countries & places like Haiti were ignored for the most part by Pfizer & Moderna and their covid cases are strangely low and no scientists can seem to offer a coherent explanation. 
4) the issue is largely in the rear view, whereas the the R policies on climate change, immigration, systemic racism, abortion, etc. are ongoing
The issue is just getting started and were seeing more peer reviewed studies calling the efficiacy & effectiveness of the covid vaccines into question i find it incredibly sh*tty that people are taking for granted the nightmare world we avoided as a result of the rest of the country clawing its way to 70% fully vaxxed.
I find it incredibly **** were vaccinating healthy kids & adults who don't need it and are at very little risk of getting anything more than a cold from it. The potential side effects seem to outweigh the protection from covid.
lol, i'm being disingenuous?
1 - who are you even beefing with? employers, private businesses and school districts each making their individual policy choices? doesn't sound like a SCARY dem conspiracy to me. you're just mad bc ppl wanted you to take the vaccine, not because of an overreach of political power.
2 - i don't even know where to start. you're parsing between the specific method of vaccination?we used to just inject the actual virus itself to produce an immune response. then a mutated, milder version of the virus. then just select protein subunits of a virus. and now, just mrna to mimic the protein subunit. the basic theory is the same, except less and less exposure to the actual virus. I don't know why this would be a hill to die on except it seems like grasping at straws to have any semblance of justification?
3 - and places like China are getting ravaged right now bc they're dealing with real covid and not Omicron because they don't have western vaccines. we can cherrypick all day but you just sound dumb if you think that braving covid without a vax is somehow better than with a vax.
4 - have any of these efficacy studies said that it's not effective? have any of these efficacy studies said that it's dangerous? does it even matter what hindsight tells us? and what does this have to do with the ongoing political issues that have nothing to do with vaccines, and affect how decisions are made re: those political issues?
5 - newsflash, all vaccines are for healthy kids and adults. and the reason that it's not "anything more than a cold" is because of the vaccine. what potential side effects are you alluding to? because people died, and people continue to die from covid. it's a real problem. China's STILL dealing with it even with way harsher lockdowns that have lasted much longer than anything the US experienced.
like i said, it's really sh*tty of you to reap the benefits of a reasonably successful vaccination campaign while clacking away at your keyboard pretending like covid is just the sniffles. i don't know how many stories from peak covid you had to ignore, where anti-vaxxers said with their dying breath that they regret everything, to get to where you are but it's incredibly callous, and misinformed. Covid could just be sniffles for people now, just like chickenpox is just a bad rash for lots of people; doesn't mean that it doesn't have the capacity to kill people also, and doesn't invalidate the vaccines implemented to prevent disease.
I'm not getting through to you, i know it. I'm just venting frustration. plus, you're better than this.
