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Post#1601 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:59 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Benjammin wrote:I'm glad they got Marshon. As long as it's only a third round pick and the "additional compensation" isn't significant. This gives them a real chance this year and for the next few years to go for it while JD5 is on his rookie deal.
Benjammin wrote:It wasn't a cheap price because of other competition.

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-Its 6th back from the John Ridgeway trade

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-Saints’ 5th-round pick
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Post#1602 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:01 pm

Incredible season. Look forward to seeing what offseason moves we make. Lot of holes to fill. Ron was such an idiot with player personnel. Not a single first rounder left from 2019-2023. How?
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Post#1603 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:07 pm

We just had a magical season making the championship game after winning 4 games last year. Now we have to spend the entire offseason reading CCJ bashing Lattimore.

For the record we lost one game when Lattimore played.
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Post#1604 » by Zonkerbl » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:06 pm

Lattimore's job is to be able to cover the other team's star WR one on one long enough that the defensive line has a shot at making a play. It's fine if he gets torched if he slows things down and frees up a defender. But he can't do it forever and the injuries to the d-line sure didn't help.
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Post#1605 » by pancakes3 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:30 pm

CCJ, I love ya man, but you're making it sound like Lattimore's the reason we didn't beat the Eagles. I'll give you props in that you were more tempered about the trade than everyone else, but I think you're leaning too far the other direction by trashing him a little too much.

Lattimore isn't an all-pro, but he's also not cooked. There's a wide spectrum in between and imo he falls on the net positive side somewhere, especially compared with who we had been putting out there at CB.

He started 2 regular season games and 3 playoff games for us.

in the regular season games, NO didn't throw his way at all, and against the Eagles, they threw to him 10 times, completing 5 of them for 68 yards and a TD. He missed 0 tackles and gave up 8 YAC. Not great, but not bad for being targeted so heavily.

in the playoffs, he gave up 5 completions on 6 targets lined up against Mike Evans and a TD. he gave up 1 of 2 for 11 yards against the Lions, no TDs on him. Against the Eagles, he gave up 4 of 6 for 77 yards and had that PI call lined up against Devonta Smith in the red zone on 3rd and 8 when the game was close, no TDs thrown on him.

so overall, he gave up 1 TD in the regular season (the entire season, both with NO and WAS) and 1 TD in the postseason (against Tampa in the wildcard). eye test shows that he couldn't run right, probably because the hammy was still bothering him, but he was skilled enough to not give up any big plays, and I don't think the PI against Smith was egregious.

at worst, the jury is still out on whether injuries have robbed him of the ability to play corner in the league. at best, he just needs to heal his hammy and he'll be an above-average corner next season. he's not going to be a pro bowler, or Lattimore Island for us, but he'd be better than a 4th round rookie or whoever we were going to play ahead of him.
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Post#1606 » by TGW » Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:18 pm

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Post#1607 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:32 pm

So I think we have a few players we can trade to get some draft capital back payne, a couple of others.

So being 24 in the draft isn't great. But Karyn Lacy is someone Jayden might like that will be available later on day 2.

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Post#1608 » by Benjammin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Trading or cutting Payne would incur a big cap hit. That's not true for Allen fwiw.

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Post#1609 » by Benjammin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:32 pm

gambitx777 wrote:So I think we have a few players we can trade to get some draft capital back payne, a couple of others.

So being 24 in the draft isn't great. But Karyn Lacy is someone Jayden might like that will be available later on day 2.

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Post#1610 » by pancakes3 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:42 pm

get out of the tank mindset and into the win now mindset, guys.

pats weren't complaining about not having #1 overalls during the belichick era
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Post#1611 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:41 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:So I think we have a few players we can trade to get some draft capital back payne, a couple of others.

So being 24 in the draft isn't great. But Karyn Lacy is someone Jayden might like that will be available later on day 2.

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I was talking About how old kyren Lacy is lol he's 24 lol

Those of you who don't know Lacy is a WR from LSU who's played there for 3 seasons and was Jaydens number 3 WR behind nabers and BTJ. He started for two years and was their #1 wr this year. Someone with decent speed and is mature and a win now prospect who Jayden knows and probably likes. Who we will be able to draft in the mid rounds .

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Post#1612 » by Benjammin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:46 pm

^My bad.

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Post#1613 » by Tyrone Messby » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:20 pm

Been beating this drum for a while but Taylor is going to be a stud in this league

Would love for us to draft him. Didn’t see enough form Ben to be the heir to Ertz. Taylor will be a future top 5-8 TE in this league.

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I’d also take a flyer in the later rounds on Swinson. But Taylor is going to be that dude at TE.
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Post#1614 » by Tyrone Messby » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:26 pm

gambitx777 wrote:So I think we have a few players we can trade to get some draft capital back payne, a couple of others.

So being 24 in the draft isn't great. But Karyn Lacy is someone Jayden might like that will be available later on day 2.

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Wouldn’t touch Lacy with a ten foot pole at this point.
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Post#1615 » by dcstanley » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:46 am

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Post#1616 » by tontoz » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:56 am

dcstanley wrote:Would you guys be open to either Garrett Wilson or Myles Garrett?


Depends on what we have to give up. I would say the price would be too high for Garrett. Might be for Wilson too.
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Post#1617 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:23 am

tontoz wrote:
dcstanley wrote:Would you guys be open to either Garrett Wilson or Myles Garrett?


Depends on what we have to give up. I would say the price would be too high for Garrett. Might be for Wilson too.
I really don't wanna go out burning draft capital like it's pop tart coupons.

But I think there are deals to be made.

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Post#1618 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:25 am

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gambitx777 wrote:So I think we have a few players we can trade to get some draft capital back payne, a couple of others.

So being 24 in the draft isn't great. But Karyn Lacy is someone Jayden might like that will be available later on day 2.

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Wouldn’t touch Lacy with a ten foot pole at this point.
While the legal issues are unsettling I doubt that keeps him from getting drafted but it might drop his stock and you might be able to grab a round 1-2 WR in round 6-7 and with his connection to Jayden you probably do it.

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Post#1620 » by pancakes3 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:35 pm

"You're really like a couple players off. Ya'll just got a really good quarterback. Ya'll get another couple pieces-ya'll get a key piece on defense though, ya'll really be in the dance for it–for real–every year. It's ya'll quarterback, bro, you're quarterback is nice. So when you got a dog like that–now you add him with another wideout to add to Terry (McLaurin), get you another defensive player...that's what you need, you need that D-Line–work on that D-Line, you'll be good."


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