Otto Porter

DCZards · Post #1621 » by **DCZards** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:08 am

I agree with dlts. The Zards should continue to start PP and bring Otto's fresh legs and scoring off the bench. Plus, OP has to show more consistent scoring before he earns a starting position over a HOFer. Right now, starting PP and bringing Otto off the bench is working and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I disagree though about Butler vs. Temple. I think Witt will continue to use Butler (and not Temple) as the first SG off the bench when Beal returns. Rasul is playing and scoring well and Temple, after a good start, is not giving the Zards anything on offense at this point. Garrett will go back to seeing spot duty as a defensive specialist...like last season.

hands11 · Post #1622 » by **hands11** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:42 am

DCZards wrote:I agree with dlts. The Zards should continue to start PP and bring Otto's fresh legs and scoring off the bench. Plus, OP has to show more consistent scoring before he earns a starting position over a HOFer. Right now, starting PP and bringing Otto off the bench is working and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I disagree though about Butler vs. Temple. I think Witt will continue to use Butler (and not Temple) as the first SG off the bench when Beal returns. Rasul is playing and scoring well and Temple, after a good start, is not giving the Zards anything on offense at this point. Garrett will go back to seeing spot duty as a defensive specialist...like last season.

Agree. I wrote effectively the same thing in another thread.

Temple will still get used. He is a utility player. He will even get some PG minutes some nights.

Wall, Miller, Temple, Beal and Rasual between PG and SG gives them options.

I think we might even see some Rasual at SF because having Beal and Rasual out there together provides the best two 3 point shooters for Wall to spread the floor.

Otto, agreed. He needs to be more consistent offensively. I don't think anyone expected him to replace what TA did day one but he has to work toward being that player.

Where it gets more tricky is once Webster returns. Though that will allow them to not play Paul on back to backs if they want. Down the road, if he never gets it going, they can limit his minutes.

Dat2U · Post #1623 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:49 pm

DCZards wrote:I agree with dlts. The Zards should continue to start PP and bring Otto's fresh legs and scoring off the bench. Plus, OP has to show more consistent scoring before he earns a starting position over a HOFer. Right now, starting PP and bringing Otto off the bench is working and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I disagree though about Butler vs. Temple. I think Witt will continue to use Butler (and not Temple) as the first SG off the bench when Beal returns. Rasul is playing and scoring well and Temple, after a good start, is not giving the Zards anything on offense at this point. Garrett will go back to seeing spot duty as a defensive specialist...like last season.

Temple & Butler are really "break glass only in case of emergency" type players. While Temple had a nice start & while Butler is currently shooting it well, it's only temporary. We can't rely on Butler to sustain types of numbers he's never put up before. Glen Rice Jr. will get another chance at some point if he's patient, simply due to need.

tontoz · Post #1624 » by **tontoz** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:34 pm

It won't happen but i would rather see Porter starting. Pierce can create his own shot off the dribble far better than Porter so he can still score effectively off the bench. Porter is better off the ball than Pierce but not as skilled off the dribble so he is better off starting next to Wall.

It seems like Porter disappears at times when he is on the floor without Wall. Plus bringing Pierce off the bench would make it easier to limit his minutes.

Dark Faze · Post #1625 » by **Dark Faze** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:08 pm

we'll have to see what the flow is like once beal gets back

BruceO · Post #1626 » by **BruceO** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:39 pm

www.bulletsforever.com/2013/5/29/437616 ... ny-bennett

umair khan really nailed ottos game pre draft

JudBuchler · Post #1627 » by **JudBuchler** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:16 am

Would anyone trade Porter for Jeff Green

Kanyewest · Post #1628 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:27 am

JudBuchler wrote:Would anyone trade Porter for Jeff Green

Maybe Isiah Thomas.

Kanyewest · Post #1629 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:30 am

tontoz wrote:It won't happen but i would rather see Porter starting. Pierce can create his own shot off the dribble far better than Porter so he can still score effectively off the bench. Porter is better off the ball than Pierce but not as skilled off the dribble so he is better off starting next to Wall.

It seems like Porter disappears at times when he is on the floor without Wall. Plus bringing Pierce off the bench would make it easier to limit his minutes.

The Wizards can just as easily limit Pierce's minutes if he starts or not. In the last game, Pierce started and played 22 minutes.

tontoz · Post #1630 » by **tontoz** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:10 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
The Wizards can just as easily limit Pierce's minutes if he starts or not. In the last game, Pierce started and played 22 minutes.

Last game they didnt need Pierce to close the game. They had an 11 point lead with 3 minutes left. He only played the last 24 seconds of the 4th quarter.

Dat2U · Post #1631 » by **Dat2U** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:31 pm

BruceO wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/5/29/4376160/nba-draft-2013-otto-porter-anthony-bennett

umair khan really nailed ottos game pre draft

Where all my Anthony Bennett fans at? Boy he did have a big group of supporters during the draft process.

tontoz · Post #1632 » by **tontoz** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:23 pm

Dat2U wrote:
BruceO wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/5/29/4376160/nba-draft-2013-otto-porter-anthony-bennett

umair khan really nailed ottos game pre draft

Where all my Anthony Bennett fans at? Boy he did have a big group of supporters during the draft process.

I lost interest when Bennet's standing reach came in. An undersized 4 really needs a good standing reach to help him deal with all the big 4s in the league, unless they are a freak athlete like Griffin. Even Griffin isn't much of a defender.

TGW · Post #1633 » by **TGW** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:45 pm

Alex Len, the guy I probably would have drafted with the pick, is starting to play better. He still has a lot of work to do but he's showing signs.

Last year was a great year to draft a center. I wanted to come out of the draft with at least one of the centers available. Grunfeld, as usual, showed no imagination with the pick.

dckingsfan · Post #1634 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:48 pm

TGW wrote:Alex Len, the guy I probably would have drafted with the pick, is starting to play better. He still has a lot of work to do but he's showing signs.

Last year was a great year to draft a center. I wanted to come out of the draft with at least one of the centers available. Grunfeld, as usual, showed no imagination with the pick.

Agreed, really wanted them to trade down for two of the bigs... probably wasn't feasible - but I would have liked them to try.

Illmatic12 · Post #1635 » by **Illmatic12** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:53 pm

TGW wrote:Alex Len, the guy I probably would have drafted with the pick, is starting to play better. He still has a lot of work to do but he's showing signs.

Last year was a great year to draft a center. I wanted to come out of the draft with at least one of the centers available. Grunfeld, as usual, showed no imagination with the pick.

Yep, Len looks good. He reminds me of Valanciunas but taller/longer wingspan and more athletic. At 0:15 steals an entry pass and takes it coast-to-coast for the dunk:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4lDGrdmzj4[/youtube]

There's still concern if he will stay healthy however. He's had surgeries and various issues with both of his feet, he could be fine now but down the line may turn into Brook Lopez.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #1636 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:53 pm

JudBuchler wrote:Would anyone trade Porter for Jeff Green

Nah. Porter might already be a better player and Green's contract doesn't work for us.

Wizardspride · Post #1637 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:00 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
TGW wrote:Alex Len, the guy I probably would have drafted with the pick, is starting to play better. He still has a lot of work to do but he's showing signs.

Last year was a great year to draft a center. I wanted to come out of the draft with at least one of the centers available. Grunfeld, as usual, showed no imagination with the pick.

Agreed, really wanted them to trade down for two of the bigs... probably wasn't feasible - but I would have liked them to try.

Forget trading down. I thought Len was worthy of being selected at #3 based off his upside alone.

I think we're starting to see that upside.

dckingsfan · Post #1638 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:05 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
TGW wrote:Alex Len, the guy I probably would have drafted with the pick, is starting to play better. He still has a lot of work to do but he's showing signs.

Last year was a great year to draft a center. I wanted to come out of the draft with at least one of the centers available. Grunfeld, as usual, showed no imagination with the pick.

Agreed, really wanted them to trade down for two of the bigs... probably wasn't feasible - but I would have liked them to try.

Forget trading down. I thought Len was worthy of being selected at #3 based off his upside alone.

I think we're starting to see that upside.

I would MUCH rather have taken two of Plumlee, Dieng, Gobert, Olynyk.

Wizardspride · Post #1639 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:07 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
Agreed, really wanted them to trade down for two of the bigs... probably wasn't feasible - but I would have liked them to try.

Forget trading down. I thought Len was worthy of being selected at #3 based off his upside alone.

I think we're starting to see that upside.

I would MUCH rather have taken two of Plumlee, Dieng, Gobert, Olynyk.

Maybe.

Personally, I think Len will ultimately prove to be better than all those guys.

I guess it's quantity over quality. I'm going with quality.

Dat2U · Post #1640 » by **Dat2U** » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:12 pm

tontoz wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
BruceO wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/5/29/4376160/nba-draft-2013-otto-porter-anthony-bennett

umair khan really nailed ottos game pre draft

Where all my Anthony Bennett fans at? Boy he did have a big group of supporters during the draft process.

I lost interest when Bennet's standing reach came in. An undersized 4 really needs a good standing reach to help him deal with all the big 4s in the league, unless they are a freak athlete like Griffin. Even Griffin isn't much of a defender.

I was never a huge fan but that standing reach eliminated him from my process as well. Didn't see the developed offensive skillset that others were talking about.

Drafting Olynyk, on the other hand, would have turned out pretty well. That would have been my guy had we not jumped up to the 3rd pick. He may already be one of the best offensive bigs in the game in only his 2nd season.