Political Roundtable Part XVII

stilldropin20 · Post #1641 » by **stilldropin20** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:03 am

closg00 · Post #1642 » by **closg00** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:15 pm

Remember when Trump shamelessly brought the Clinton accusers to one of the debates? Stormy Daniels and the Trump accusers should be at the State of the Union tonight.

Pointgod · Post #1643 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:40 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #1644 » by **montestewart** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:03 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:I'm still full chub 3 hours into CNN

I knew AFM, I posted with AFM, and you're no AFM

Shoe · Post #1645 » by **Shoe** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:13 pm

It's clear Republicans want Russia to interfere in the mid-term elections. I hope plans are being made now for when the new deputy attorney general starts impeding the Mueller investigation - or worst case scenario fires Mueller.

Post #1646 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:27 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:Don't like where it's headed???? I've been telling you where it's headed for months. Like nine straight months.

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Yes, you have.

Its just that our interpretations are completely different.

You guys would do yourselves a big favor by stop thinking the choirboys run this country. that goes for the Obamas the clintons and the trumps.

So far Trump is the cleanest guy in that office in 30 years maybe 40 years. Compared to everyone else going all the way back to Reagan, Trump is the closest thing to a choir boy but again still no choir boy.

It was 1993 when I first discovered exactly what political appointee meant. Now all of you guys know. Infer what you will infer.

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That's absurd. What president has publicly tried to destroy the press, the FBI, and the DOJ - not even mentioning the threats and insults to North Korea and so many other things that he's done and not done - leaving so many important positions open and showing disdain for science. The comparisons to ANY other presidents are ridiculous. WE'VE NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT REMOTELY LIKE TRUMP. And he's had just over 1 year. What shyt is going to happen for the next 3 years?

bealwithit · Post #1647 » by **bealwithit** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:43 pm

Damn, it's been a while but this SD20 guy has made this thread borderline unreadable.

It's like "conservative" twitter puked all over a RealGM thread.

closg00 · Post #1648 » by **closg00** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:50 pm

Ahhh, “The Memo”, Trump will be able to reference it tonight as that great travesty against him, I’m already hearing deplorable robots repeating the allegations as gospel on talk radio and C-Span. This is the stuff of Banana Republics.

cammac · Post #1649 » by **cammac** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:16 pm

I know that there are responsible Republicans out there it is reflected in the polls about 9% disapprove which is a relatively small number and independents 59% disapprove. The only group that Trump maintains a grip on is high school or less males he has even lost the + 65 group narrowly which will grow with fee hikes for healthcare.

The key to any election is the turnout of the various parties and the independent vote. This bodes badly for the GOP. The economy is the Trumps strongest suit at the moment but he has failed to drive the GDP over 3% and frankly never will. Never in the history of the USA have there been such a bad selection of a cabinet driven by religious and scientific bias. This group has harnessed the Neo-Luddite movement about the advancement of technology and a Anti Darwinian view of the world. I'm quite sure Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave over the idiocy of this administration.

As the noose slowly closes by Mueller on the misdeeds of this administration the Republican Party is eager to throw allies under the bus. They have a misguided illusions that the Numes memo will hurt the Justice Department and FBI which has always been a Republican allies. This will come back to haunt them since it has created a cadre of FBI agents and DOJ who will continue a investigation even if Mueller is fired.

The reality is that no republican in the house is safe without at least a 20+ point lead in the last election. Even in Red States Senators like Cruz and in Tennessee are no longer gimmes.

Wizardspride · Post #1650 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:33 pm

And to think Induveca claimed Assange/wikileaks were a "neutral party".

Read on Twitter

gtn130 · Post #1651 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:44 pm

Wizardspride wrote:And to think Induveca claimed Assange/wikileaks were a "neutral party".

Read on Twitter

Yeah this is nuts. Hannity is basically coordinating with a Russian proxy to dictate content on Fox News

dckingsfan · Post #1652 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:44 pm

TGW wrote:No wonder why the American public, according to polls, has no faith in this current government. It’s a soap opera, and both sides of the aisle are complicit. Drump’s approval ratings are in the tank, and the spineless Dems caved on DACA, which an overwhelming number of Americans support. Instead of doing something productive, time is wasted on this bull.

Yep, both sides of the aisle are complicit leading up to this epic meltdown... the trend really started back with Carter and has been accelerating since (although setting themselves up on DACA is more incompetence, IMO). And just to elaborate on your point.

gtn130 · Post #1653 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:46 pm

I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

dckingsfan · Post #1654 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:53 pm

gtn130 wrote:I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

His purposeful omission of the rule of law is THE most damaging part of his administration, IMO. It sets a precedent of overreach by the Administrative arm that is going to be tough to undo.

Turnabout is fair play. When the Ds come back to office - you will hear the Rs scream bloody murder on this when it is used against them.

Post #1655 » by **montestewart** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:54 pm

gtn130 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:And to think Induveca claimed Assange/wikileaks were a "neutral party".

Read on Twitter

Yeah this is nuts. Hannity is basically coordinating with a Russian proxy to dictate content on Fox News

And probably coordinating with POTUS to pardon a Russian proxy

Wizardspride · Post #1656 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:54 pm

gtn130 wrote:I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

All the signs are right there as to where we're potentially headed.....

gtn130 · Post #1657 » by **gtn130** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:51 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
gtn130 wrote:I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

All the signs are right there as to where we're potentially headed.....

Indeed.

It's worth noting that when, not if, Rosenstein is removed, it should essentially be treated as a national emergency. When Rosenstein goes, he'll be replaced by someone who can quietly suppress the Mueller investigation while technically keeping Mueller in the picture. This is all really bad.

Pointgod · Post #1658 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:54 pm

gtn130 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
gtn130 wrote:I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

All the signs are right there as to where we're potentially headed.....

Indeed.

It's worth noting that when, not if, Rosenstein is removed, it should essentially be treated as a national emergency. When Rosenstein goes, he'll be replaced by someone who can quietly suppress the Mueller investigation while technically keeping Mueller in the picture. This is all really bad.

But I thought this was all a nothingburger? Something that many progressives, centrists and right wingers believe.

Kanyewest · Post #1659 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:03 pm

FEMA to ‘officially shut off’ food and water aid to Puerto Rico
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371347-fema-to-officially-shut-off-food-and-water-aid-to-puerto-rico

closg00 · Post #1660 » by **closg00** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:34 pm

gtn130 wrote:I have to say Trump refusing to implement the sanctions on Russia is legitimately scary. Laws mean nothing now.

He truly is The Teflon Don, causally dismissed without much notice in the Media. Can you imagine Sean Hannity’s eyes popping out of his head if a President Clinton had failed to enact sanctions after Russia had helped her campaign? This would be blaring Fox News headlines for a week.