Political Roundtable Part XXVI

Post #1641 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 3:51 pm

Not. Good. At. All.

Kanyewest · Post #1642 » by **Kanyewest** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:18 pm

verbal8 wrote:
gtn130 wrote:TGW is hilarious. Leave it to this guy to champion right wing talking points while pretending to be The #1 Most Pure Leftist on the Internet.

The **** Trump did is like 10000x worse than anything Joe Biden did. You know this, but you're on your crusade and you'll carry water for Trump and spread a bunch of debunked garbage in the name of owning the Democrats. Good **** bro! Very cool posting!

He is the Tulsi Gabbard of the Wizards board.

Although Tulsi (finally!) came out to support the impeachment inquiry. Too bad the Rising with Krystal Ball have not reversed their position even though now there are more people who support impeachment inquiry than are against- and the number for impeachment inquiry are higher than Trump's approval rating.

Kanyewest · Post #1643 » by **Kanyewest** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:22 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Sanders heart surgery... get well Bernie.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464003-sanders-undergoes-heart-surgery-after-experiencing-chest-discomfort

There's a pretty good possibility he drops out now and throws his support to Warren.

dckingsfan · Post #1644 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:31 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Sanders heart surgery... get well Bernie.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464003-sanders-undergoes-heart-surgery-after-experiencing-chest-discomfort

There's a pretty good possibility he drops out now and throws his support to Warren.

Well, that would be the rational thing to do - I think he stays in to the bitter end.

Conspiracy thing for the election: Bernie was given a false medical diagnosis by D operatives who didn't want M4A

dobrojim · Post #1645 » by **dobrojim** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:31 pm

Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
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saw the same link on FB

so I'll make the same reply that was made there (not by me in that case)

The cruelty is the point.

Post #1646 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:57 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:Not. Good. At. All.

Read on Twitter

I just wonder at what point does Putin say "Whelp, I've squeezed all the blood from this stone that I can. Time to release all the incriminating documents I've been holding over Trump, the NRA, and the entire GOP Senate this entire time to cause US society to implode in on itself."

Post #1647 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:39 pm

dobrojim wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

saw the same link on FB

so I'll make the same reply that was made there (not by me in that case)

The cruelty is the point.

His mindset is in line with Hitler's. If it were politically expedient, he would do it.

Post #1648 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:50 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:Not. Good. At. All.

Read on Twitter

I just wonder at what point does Putin say "Whelp, I've squeezed all the blood from this stone that I can. Time to release all the incriminating documents I've been holding over Trump, the NRA, and the entire GOP Senate this entire time to cause US society to implode in on itself."

It's a good question. You sort of get the feeling he's at a level of predator playing with his prey before he feasts at this point:

Read on Twitter

Haha... ha... *Elbows your ribs (and sticks a shiv in)*

But we must never forget he's of a particular type, KGB, and the impact the break up of former SU had on him. He has a vision and hunger that hearkens to a time that included Kiev. But the political implications of growing power and geopolitical influence means he'll keep infiltrating and use what he can as long as he can. Trump's proclivities for underhanded dealings made him the ultimate mark. But Putin's long-term strategy trumps whatever waning interest may have resulted from the apparent ease with which it has been made possible. If anything, these most recent developments with Ukraine and the developments in the US may propel Putin to push his agenda. Insatiable.

Wizardspride · Post #1649 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:51 pm

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I_Like_Dirt · Post #1650 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:52 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:I just wonder at what point does Putin say "Whelp, I've squeezed all the blood from this stone that I can. Time to release all the incriminating documents I've been holding over Trump, the NRA, and the entire GOP Senate this entire time to cause US society to implode in on itself."

Never. He doesn't need to. For one, he knows that Trump's base still won't care and a lot of partisan voters will find a way to stomach it. For two, it's better for him to have American political chaos. For three, it's also in his interests to keep his next puppets believing that he won't just bail on them that way. For four, as things stand now, even if all of those 3 angles go tits up, the white nationalism that's been stirred up is very real and it's in his interests to have them point to him as a solid political figure rather than be viewed as the guy who backstabbed the cause - that's true both internationally and in his own back yard where he relies on that a fair bit, too.

Wizardspride · Post #1651 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:56 pm

Read on Twitter

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Post #1652 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 6:24 pm

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Post #1653 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 6:24 pm

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Post #1654 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 7:04 pm

Post #1655 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 7:28 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:

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And that alone is yet another impeachable offense.

What the Dems should do is base the impeachment on the pattern of corruption - not just the Ukraine idiocy (not to mention his calls to Australia and the UK). The pattern is overwhelming. Part of it's already written in the Mueller report, and part of it's already written by Trump on his Twitter account.

pancakes3 · Post #1656 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:00 pm

to put it into context how irresponsible Barr's snipe hunts for Trump are, recognize that Barr as AG is in charge of the entire DOJ. Every single piece of litigation that the Government is involved in is filtered through the DOJ. Everything ranging from murder to antitrust, wire fraud to toxic spills. The world's largest law firms with offices around the world have somewhere between 500-1000 attorneys. The DOJ has 10,000 attorneys - and it's Barr's job to manage all of them.

Post #1657 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:04 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #1658 » by **G R E Y** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:

Read on Twitter

And that alone is yet another impeachable offense.

What the Dems should do is base the impeachment on the pattern of corruption - not just the Ukraine idiocy (not to mention his calls to Australia and the UK). The pattern is overwhelming. Part of it's already written in the Mueller report, and part of it's already written by Trump on his Twitter account.

Raskin, who hasn't read it, just said this wasn't what it was about.

It was some packet of info containing propaganda that pushed Mueller's findings as false, and also contained propaganda about Bidens, among others.

Weird.

Best to wait till someone reads and examines it.

Wizardspride · Post #1659 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 10:49 pm

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Post #1660 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Oct 3, 2019 1:44 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:I just wonder at what point does Putin say "Whelp, I've squeezed all the blood from this stone that I can. Time to release all the incriminating documents I've been holding over Trump, the NRA, and the entire GOP Senate this entire time to cause US society to implode in on itself."

Never. He doesn't need to. For one, he knows that Trump's base still won't care and a lot of partisan voters will find a way to stomach it. For two, it's better for him to have American political chaos. For three, it's also in his interests to keep his next puppets believing that he won't just bail on them that way. For four, as things stand now, even if all of those 3 angles go tits up, the white nationalism that's been stirred up is very real and it's in his interests to have them point to him as a solid political figure rather than be viewed as the guy who backstabbed the cause - that's true both internationally and in his own back yard where he relies on that a fair bit, too.

Yeah why throw away leverage like that.