The Washington Football Team Thread

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

With all due respect Wentz is older, paid, and he won a Super Bowl when Nick Foles relieved him. I understand all the sentiments about Wentz; but at the same time he’s been total team player and supportive while Heineke played. Wentz is a Flacco I hope.

I think THE BEST THING is let Wentz and Howell each get 60/40% practice repetitions. Start Wentz through Qtr 1 and the half if he’s not turning the ball over.

The worst thing would be Howell in week 16 fails. I’d start Wentz and have Howell ready in relief.

[gambitx777]

I honestly hope we give Howell a real chance before we go drafting someone in the first or Second round.

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[Dat2U]

I'm torn. Happy Snyder is selling which might encourage me to openly root & support the team again but I find most Commanders fans so damn unlikable. Especially reading twitter where its just a cesspool of stupid opinions. At times i really want to mute Commanders fans on twitter after reading another post about a fan hating Heinicke's guts and how Wentz would make us light years better.

I personally think Howell is who we should be starting but Wentz is not better than Tyler. Not at all. Especially when he did enough last week to win that game. The refs **** him twice.

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Bad shx about to happen. We will lose the last two with Wentz under center. He can elude the rush or
make quick enough decisions to play behind this line

Myles Garrett about to eat.

They aren't making the playoffs at this stage. I could see them beating Cleveland but not Dallas plus they'd need help anyways.

Its also crazy to watch the fan base become critical of Rivera's moves when they supported every single one of them. No one here wanted Schreff when left. They were like 'good ridance', he's 'overrated'. Also was told time and time again how much better are OL was than Indy's OL last year after Free Agency this year and how Wentz was in a much better situation than in Indy. So many celebrated the Wentz and OL acquisitions. All I heard about was the 27/7 TD to INT ratio. I watched his last two games in Indy last year and saw an upright statue who needed a clean pocket to work and would constantly miss underneath routes looking for deep shots. Still can't believe the assets given up for Wentz when no other team would have done that.

[Dat2U]

I honestly hope we give a real chance before we go drafting someone in the first or Second round.

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We may need another 2 QBs. They definitely have room to draft another. I don't think Howell is a guy that's good enough to say we can't bring in another young QB into the fold.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Offensive line looked mighty weak against SF.

[TGW]

Agree that Howell should be playing.

It would definitely be a gamble. With the playoffs on the line, this would be a rough spot to throw a rookie into.

The dream scenario would be for the Commies to clinch next week and have Howell start week 18

I actually think Howell brings more to the table than Heineke or Wentz. He has a stronger, more accurate arm than Heineke, and he's more mobile than Wentz. With a good gameplan, I think he can win some games. Just my 2 cents from what I saw in preseason, but I'd love for them to give him a chance.

[TGW]

I honestly hope we give Howell a real chance before we go drafting someone in the first or Second round.

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They should absolutely draft a quarterback regardless if whether Howell gets a chance or not. They have not allocated enough resources to the most important position on the field. They've used higher picks on running backs than they have on the quarterback position. That is RIDICULOUS.

They need to use a premium pick on a quarterback, period. This is why teams like the Eagles and Chiefs are on top. Instead of drafting around their aging mediocre quarterbacks, they used premium picks on developmental qbs and let them sit. The Eagles drafted Hurtz when they already had Wentz, and the Chiefs drafted Mahomes when Alex Smith was the QB. Notice those teams are challenging for Super Bowls, while the Commanders are treading water, and trading picks/caproom for those very same mediocre quarterbacks.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Howell is better perhaps


I don’t know at all TBH other than Howell was a beast at UNC.

[gambitx777]

I honestly hope we give Howell a real chance before we go drafting someone in the first or Second round.

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They should absolutely draft a quarterback regardless if whether Howell gets a chance or not. They have not allocated enough resources to the most important position on the field. They've used higher picks on running backs than they have on the quarterback position. That is RIDICULOUS.

They need to use a premium pick on a quarterback, period. This is why teams like the Eagles and Chiefs are on top. Instead of drafting around their aging mediocre quarterbacks, they used premium picks on developmental qbs and let them sit. The Eagles drafted Hurtz when they already had Wentz, and the Chiefs drafted Mahomes when Alex Smith was the QB. Notice those teams are challenging for Super Bowls, while the Commanders are treading water, and trading picks/caproom for those very same mediocre quarterbacks.

I'm not saying don't draft a QB I'm saying I think Howell is just as good as anyone you're gonna get at your spot at this point in the first or second round and you can get real talent at spots of need. Like the OL and secondary. I would stay away from the QB in the first and second round. Cuz I think Howell is that dude and you can shoot for some other options in the 4th and 5th rounds .

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

As of 12/12/22 the Commanders have a 72% chance of making the playoffs per

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/upshot/washington-commanders-nfl-playoff-picture.html

If they win the Giants game, the probability goes over 90%.

Beat NY and lose the next three and STILL have a 59% chance.

All is still in their control even if they lose to NYG. Any two wins out of the next four increase their odds over 80%.

Bottom line: 9-7-1 will very likely get in the wildcard matchup.

Down to 33% chance at playoffs

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

As of 12/12/22 the Commanders have a 72% chance of making the playoffs per

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/upshot/washington-commanders-nfl-playoff-picture.html

If they win the Giants game, the probability goes over 90%.

Beat NY and lose the next three and STILL have a 59% chance.

All is still in their control even if they lose to NYG. Any two wins out of the next four increase their odds over 80%.

Bottom line: 9-7-1 will very likely get in the wildcard matchup.

Down to 33% chance at playoffs

Next two games ARE essentially playoffs. Win and we’re in. Lose either one and we’re likely out

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[pancakes3]

I honestly hope we give Howell a real chance before we go drafting someone in the first or Second round.

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They should absolutely draft a quarterback regardless if whether Howell gets a chance or not. They have not allocated enough resources to the most important position on the field. They've used higher picks on running backs than they have on the quarterback position. That is RIDICULOUS.

They need to use a premium pick on a quarterback, period. This is why teams like the Eagles and Chiefs are on top. Instead of drafting around their aging mediocre quarterbacks, they used premium picks on developmental qbs and let them sit. The Eagles drafted Hurtz when they already had Wentz, and the Chiefs drafted Mahomes when Alex Smith was the QB. Notice those teams are challenging for Super Bowls, while the Commanders are treading water, and trading picks/caproom for those very same mediocre quarterbacks.

I'm not saying don't draft a QB I'm saying I think Howell is just as good as anyone you're gonna get at your spot at this point in the first or second round and you can get real talent at spots of need. Like the OL and secondary. I would stay away from the QB in the first and second round. Cuz I think Howell is that dude and you can shoot for some other options in the 4th and 5th rounds .

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yeah i don't see any first rounder qb's in this draft. bryce young ain't it. CJ Stroud and Hooker are interesting but not 1st round talents.

drafting RB's in this day and age is dinosaur thinking.

but i think it's cherrypicking to say that eagles and chiefs are good orgs by drafting qbs when they have set Qb's. Wentz was never the answer, and by the time Hurts was drafted, it was pretty obvious. Same with Smith. He wasn't lighting the world on fire when he was with the Chiefs. Perfect game manager who got completions and didn't turn the ball over, but isn't going to get you 30-40 TD's on the year.

But yes, if you can't get a blue chipper at QB in R1, you're much better off trading down to amass linemen and db's. Or you go after stud edge rushers who can single handedly change the game.

i do think that we're not above taking QB's in the 2-4th rounds though. Gotta keep giving those mid guys a shot in case you find a diamond in the rough, which we did when we drafted Cousins. Wentz, Heineke, et al aren't good enough to have job security.

[gambitx777]

They should absolutely draft a quarterback regardless if whether Howell gets a chance or not. They have not allocated enough resources to the most important position on the field. They've used higher picks on running backs than they have on the quarterback position. That is RIDICULOUS.

They need to use a premium pick on a quarterback, period. This is why teams like the Eagles and Chiefs are on top. Instead of drafting around their aging mediocre quarterbacks, they used premium picks on developmental qbs and let them sit. The Eagles drafted Hurtz when they already had Wentz, and the Chiefs drafted Mahomes when Alex Smith was the QB. Notice those teams are challenging for Super Bowls, while the Commanders are treading water, and trading picks/caproom for those very same mediocre quarterbacks.

I'm not saying don't draft a QB I'm saying I think Howell is just as good as anyone you're gonna get at your spot at this point in the first or second round and you can get real talent at spots of need. Like the OL and secondary. I would stay away from the QB in the first and second round. Cuz I think Howell is that dude and you can shoot for some other options in the 4th and 5th rounds .

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yeah i don't see any first rounder qb's in this draft. bryce young ain't it. CJ Stroud and Hooker are interesting but not 1st round talents.

drafting RB's in this day and age is dinosaur thinking.

but i think it's cherrypicking to say that eagles and chiefs are good orgs by drafting qbs when they have set Qb's. Wentz was never the answer, and by the time Hurts was drafted, it was pretty obvious. Same with Smith. He wasn't lighting the world on fire when he was with the Chiefs. Perfect game manager who got completions and didn't turn the ball over, but isn't going to get you 30-40 TD's on the year.

But yes, if you can't get a blue chipper at QB in R1, you're much better off trading down to amass linemen and db's. Or you go after stud edge rushers who can single handedly change the game.

i do think that we're not above taking QB's in the 2-4th rounds though. Gotta keep giving those mid guys a shot in case you find a diamond in the rough, which we did when we drafted Cousins. Wentz, Heineke, et al aren't good enough to have job security.

My point exactly, keep stacking studs at the positions of impact. I less there is a clear game changer at QB available and there isn't this year. Wait it out draft another in round what 4 and keep going. Wentz won't be back and honestly neither should Tyler.

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[pancakes3]

All the QB's in the AFC playoffs (as of today) are first round picks. None of the QB'S in the NFC are

[gambitx777]

I think we should hire Tyler as an assistant ! Start grooming him! He knows how to inspire people!

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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Season is over. Commies can’t win with Wentz under center. Get ready for a slew of sacks, bounced passes and lousy decisions.

[TGW]

All the QB's in the AFC playoffs (as of today) are first round picks. None of the QB'S in the NFC are

The Giants QB is a first round pick. The 49ers two injured quarterbacks are first and second rounders, and the Eagles QB is a second rounder.

My point stands...you get QBs early. You don't "build around" average quaterbacks until you find a franchise QB. THat strategy almost never works. Find your clay early and mold it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The best bet is use all three.

Start Wentz

I believe Carson via karma beats Cleveland.

[Kanyewest]

Wentz on his first drive- overthrows a screen pass- and then throws an interception.