Political Roundtable Part XIX

[dckingsfan]

More on DCKingsFan deep state definition...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/business/pension-finance-oregon.html

[verbal8]

It would be awesome if he gives that speech on his last day in office.
It wouldn't redeem his legacy from being complicit in letting/helping Trump/Trumpism take over the Republican Party.

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The Deep State has initiated a strategy to make anyone associated with Trump suffer the financial and possibly legal consequences of an investigatory anal exam.

The exam is the only way to find the heads of Trump associates.

Their goal is to cripple Trump by denying him of any capable staff. Trump pardoning Libby is an appropriate response.

Trump's incompetence and corruption are what is denying him capable staff. Pardoning Libby is an attempt to maintain the one-way loyalty that Trump needs from his associates.

[stilldropin20]

https://conservativetribune.com/fbis-raid-of-trump-lawyers-office-has-backfired-spectacularly-on-mueller/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=MobileFloatingSharingButtons&utm_content=2018-04-15&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
For Democrats, these numbers are going in the wrong direction.

In the wake of the FBI’s raid of the home and office of Michael Cohen on Monday, President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, a poll released by Rasmussen finds American voters are growing increasingly suspicious of the motivations behind the “Russia collusion” investigation.

And Trump’s consistent characterization of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe as a “witch hunt” might be starting to sink in.

A poll of 1,000 likely voters found less than half of those surveyed think Mueller’s investigation is an “honest attempt to determine wrongdoing” according to Rasmussen.

Meanwhile, significantly more of those polled consider it a “partisan witch hunt” than the percentage who thought so during a similar survey in October.

Neither number bodes well for the ongoing Democrat-media campaign to discredit the Trump White House.

“The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters still believe Mueller’s investigation is an honest attempt to determine criminal wrongdoing, but that’s down from 52% last October,” Rasmussen reported. “Forty percent (40%) now consider Mueller’s probe a partisan witch hunt, an eight-point increase from 32% in the earlier survey. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided.”

In other words, the hoopla surrounding Monday’s raid in New York – executed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern district of New York but instigated by Mueller’s investigation — is backfiring badly.


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Despite an incessant drumbeat of negative news and opinions about Trump, the percentage of Americans who believe the Mueller probe is the pursuit of justice has dropped considerably in the past six months.

By contrast, the percentage of those who think it’s politically motivated has increased by an even greater percentage.

In what could be even more galling for left, Trump’s performance in Rasmussen’s Daily Presidential Tracking Poll, the only poll measuring Trump’s approval rating on a daily basis, showed him at 50 percent approval on Friday, a number he’s rarely reached in his presidency.

While having the approval of half the country might not sound like a huge accomplishment for the president, Trump supporters understand exactly what kind of opposition Trump is facing to get that. As The Daily Wire pointed out:

“… (A)fter record lows in the polls for most of his first year in office, Trump saw significant improvement by December and for the entirety of 2018 has been polling around where President Obama polled at the same time during his presidency.”

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Most readers will remember that Obama, at the same point of his presidency, had been treated for more than a year by a virtual deity by the bootlicking mainstream media and his gushing fans in Hollywood.

For a president to have the kind of personality cult Obama was surrounded by and still poll only 50 percent approval is a testament to the good sense of the American electorate. Voters who were disgusted by the passage of Obamacare and its signature in March 2010 saw right through the endless glorification of the media.

Likewise, Americans who’ve watched as Trump has been attacked on a daily, even hourly, basis by alleged “news” outlets like CNN and the sneering celebrity elite of late-night “comedy” know full well what kind of resistance Trump has faced (it even calls itself “the Resistance” for crying out loud).

Well-publicized dramatics like the Mueller-instigated raid on the home and office of the president’s private lawyers might be intended to turn Americans against Trump, but the Rasmussen poll shows the tactic is backfiring — badly.

[Wizardspride]

I've been watching RT lately and they definitely have an "interesting" take on things.

[stilldropin20]

It would be awesome if he gives that speech on his last day in office.
It wouldn't redeem his legacy from being complicit in letting/helping Trump/Trumpism take over the Republican Party.

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you guys just dont get it. Nobody "helped" Trump. They fought him. With everything they had. some of his "own team" still fight him on the down low and in braod day light.

So there was no "help" about it. Donald Trump took the party away from them. All of "them." And by "Donald Trump" I do indeed mean the american people who voted for Trump. they same way the american people attempted to take it away from the establishment candidate HRC by voting for Bernie who should have won the primary had it been a fair fight.

And by "them" i do indeed mean the tired, old ass, dinasour rino's like Mccain and Jeff Session and mike Pence.

Now once Trump became the R's candidate he needed those old critters to win the election so Pence and Session became part of the team. And sessions was smart enough to jump on board early and got rewarded.

But sessions recusing himself created this entire DOj folly. The american people should NOT have had to endure this. this whole farce has done nothing but frustrate libtards who not going to get what they want which is to see the election reversed nor Trump impeached. And it frustrated civil libertarians like me who cant stand to see our justice system denigrated and perverted so badly by what is essentially in incompetent USAG.

Being a successful sitting president(for the better of the ENTIRE country, libtards) requires a man in the oval office to make choices between people dying and picking which one die. everyday. Obama did. Clinton did. And so does Trump. it's not a job for choir boys and the opposition party always pretends it is when they are not in power. Especially the libtards. You need an USAG that lays cover for a sitting president and clearly Session was not up for the job. And IMO session did this on purpose. IMO, Sessions serpentine like slither into the trump campaign and then appointment to USAG was meant to reign Trump in by his own party. Sessions represents the good ol' boys. The semi racists, semi sexist, semi elitist segment of the conservative party that is no good for america (libtards have their own version of these elitists, anti-religious, identity gutter politics slimeballs that are also no good for america) The good ol' boys use their own disgusting perversion of identity politics by manipulating the aging but still present religious right of the country into voting for them.

I know the libtards dont care about how badly the country is damaged while you sling arrows at Trump so long as you take down Trump. But your real fight is not with trump. it's with the "good ol' boys" like Pence, like sessions, like Ted Cruz, like Lindsey graham like Mitch Mcconnell` and even Paul Ryan who was on his way to being just like them.

[TGW]

I've been watching RT lately and they definitely have an "interesting" take on things.

if by interesting, you mean "non-corporate" and "closer to reality", then yea, I would agree with you.

[AFM]

I actually agree that RT is a better news source than most US news...i'm also an alt right russian bot tho

[Wizardspride]

I've been watching RT lately and they definitely have an "interesting" take on things.

if by interesting, you mean "non-corporate" and "closer to reality", then yea, I would agree with you.

That's one way to interpret it.

Not my interpretation but hey, it's all good.

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[Zonkerbl]

I think healthy skepticism is important for Democracy. We should always ask do we trust the government, particularly since the FBI persecuted the Black Panthers in straight up violation of the Constitution in the sixties and seventies. Our government is totally capable of ganging up on people. We are a racist country first and a Constitutional Democracy second.

I think the question you have to ask first, though, is - if you have a conspiracy theory that you are being persecuted, stop and ask the following two questions:
1) Am I white?
2) Am I male?

If the answer to both of those questions is yes, the chances of you being the victim of a conspiracy is pretty much zero. For example, is there a "deep state" that is persecuting Trump? Is Trump white? Is Trump male? Then probably not. The Constitution protects white males from persecuting other white males, and to a lesser extent white females, as long as they pretend to be male.

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[gtn130]

if by interesting, you mean "non-corporate" and "closer to reality", then yea, I would agree with you.

I actually agree that RT is a better news source than most US news...i'm also an alt right russian bot tho

It's literally state-funded propaganda.

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Cohen looks so much like a comedic character actor from the 70s/80s, probably on The Love Boat, Happy Days, or MASH. Can't remember the name. Anybody recall who it is?

[queridiculo]

Cohen looks so much like a comedic character actor from the 70s/80s, probably on The Love Boat, Happy Days, or MASH. Can't remember the name. Anybody recall who it is?

I think I know exactly who you're talking about but I cannot think of any movies right now he may have been part of.

Heck, even that picture on the cell phone could have been ripped straight from one of those movies.

[gtn130]

Cohen is Barry Zuckerkorn from Arrested Development:

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Cohen looks so much like a comedic character actor from the 70s/80s, probably on The Love Boat, Happy Days, or MASH. Can't remember the name. Anybody recall who it is?

Salesman on WKRP Cincinnati Herbert Ruggles Tarlek, Jr.
Had to get new ID my old laptop got black screen of death!

[dckingsfan]

I think healthy skepticism is important for Democracy. We should always ask do we trust the government, particularly since the FBI persecuted the Black Panthers in straight up violation of the Constitution in the sixties and seventies. Our government is totally capable of ganging up on people. We are a racist country first and a Constitutional Democracy second.

I think the question you have to ask first, though, is - if you have a conspiracy theory that you are being persecuted, stop and ask the following two questions:
1) Am I white?
2) Am I male?

If the answer to either of those questions is yes, the chances of you being the victim of a conspiracy is pretty much zero. For example, is there a "deep state" that is persecuting Trump? Is Trump white? Is Trump male? Then probably not. The Constitution protects white males from persecuting other white males, and to a lesser extent white females, as long as they pretend to be male.

Misuse of the powers of government is widespread at every level of government today. So yes, a healthy skepticism is warranted.

You mention the Black Panthers and the FBI, don't forget Hoover and MLK. Also, the IRS is just as good at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_allegations_of_misuse_of_the_Internal_Revenue_Service

And to your conspiracy question. I think it is more the "deep state" question for each of their domains. For example, if you are part of the education deep state - you demonize anyone who is against the current public education institution - regardless of sex or race.

I have watched this with fascination at the state level with respect to the industrial prison complex. The are terrific at demonizing their antagonists as weak on crime - that they are okay with rampant crime - that they just don't care.

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The race in the special election in Arizona might be heating up!

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A poll from Emerson College found physician Hiral Tipirneni (D) narrowly leading with 46 percent, compared to former state Sen. Debbie Lesko (R) who is at 45 percent, which is well within the poll’s margin of error.

Monday’s poll is an outlier and a huge swing in the direction towards Democrats since recent polling has shown Lesko winning by double-digit margins. The latest public poll on Friday from OH Predictive Insights and ABC15 Arizona found Lesko leading by 10 points, 53 to 43 percent.

Arizona’s special election has captivated national attention, with Republican groups pouring more resources into a district that President Trump won by 21 points in 2016. The winner of next Tuesday’s race will replace ex-GOP Rep. Trent Franks, who resigned after allegedly discussing paying a staffer to carry his child.

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God can't these Russians walk and chew gum at the same time?
Spanky MacTrump only wishes his adversaries could have similar "ACCIDENTS" Maybe that's why he admires Putin so much.