closg00 wrote:Peter Strzok fired, the 3rd person involved with the Trump investigation fired, nothing political about this at all.
FBI and DOJ has been slow walking and stone walling congress for 1.5 years.
non partisan: i think the FBI feels it has to protect what it feels is "their" investigation then after they are done with it allow for oversight. I'm not sure that this is the way it works or should work. I feel personally feel that congress (AKA the american people) should have real time oversight.
Comey clearly took it out of the presidents hands and Comey's hands are clearly dirty.
Right now, the only evidence anyone has anywhere on collusion or conspiracy is the meeting that they took at trump tower and the "russia, if you are listening" speech at a campaign rally. There is no evidence anywhere of a quid pro quo so no crime and in fact Trump has been harder and stiffer with sanctions on russia than any president since 1991. So as the now fired Strzok once said, there's just no there there. Nothing.
Could the Trump team have been informed that russia had dirt? absolutely? Could trump foolishly said russia if you're listening?" Absolutely. Is any of that a crime or conspiracy? Nope. Does it make trump look bad politically? Yes.
And this is what ive said for over 2 years. I dont know why the trump team walked into this clear trap. Those same russian lawyers met with Fusion GPS the day before and the day after the trump tower meeting. Classic set up. Dossier then compiled. Dossier used to obtain FISA on page. the entire Trump team was surveilled. Entire trump team was unmaksed. All by Obama. Everyone knows this came from Obama. You would have to be an idiot to not realize that these folks would not stick their necks out so far given Trump just won the election without having "cover." They all thought that they would have Trump removed before summer 2017.
And now we find ourselves with a DOJ and FBI trying to cover their tracks on this entire thing...before they turn it over to congress for complete oversight...and their thinking is that so long as D's regain the house, the FBI and Obama DOJ will be let off of the hook...at most a slap on the wrist.
The fact that mccabe, Strzok, and Comey all have been fired with cause is alarming. At the end of the day we have a DNC that didn't secure it's servers (and some personal emails), possibly got hacked(possibly an inside job according to wiki leaks who say it came from a flash drive), supposedly by russians, who then released the info to wiki leaks, who simply put the info out there for all to read....... I mean...come on...maybe the DNC should have better secured servers? Not used private emails?
And since the trump team never paid for these emails, nor offered anything of value, and in fact have hit russia extremely hard with sanctions...there just is nothing there to tie this to trump other than they (possibly) heard there was dirt on a political opponent, and trump said, tongue in cheek in broad day light said "release the" dirt.
Meanwhile, simultaneously the grab em by the p***** tape got released. and the emails got released a a few hours later.
At the end of the day, you have both barrack obama paying perkins coie $1M in 2016. and HRC paying perkins coie $10M in 2016. Perkins Coie creates somewhat of a legal firewall for both of them as they then paid fusion GPS for political dirt on Trump. Fusion pays steele who pays Actual russian government employees and oligarchs for a lot of the dirt that ends up in the Dossier. That dossier is used to survail americans. the dossier remains almost entirely unverified by the FBI. The FISA court was purposefully misled that info based on political dirt (oppo research).
And it looks like Key officials at the top of the Obama DOJ were both the tip of this spear and the spear itself as well as the driving force for the spear.
Nate and I have been saying that this whole thing stinks to high heaven. And I can see why both sides of the political aisle would be upset. But clearly the Dems(HRC, Obama admin) were the one dealing from the bottom of the deck and colluding with each other at the table. Trump was just a better poker player but exposed himself along the way. and stumbled on his way to the bank and dropped a bunch of poker chips.
like i said, its a full rebuild.
