Wizards 2019 Draft thread. (Tank for Zion, or OTHER NAME HERE)

[Dat2U]

Trade Beal. I wonder if the Pels do Beal + #9 for #1 and Randle

Only if it gets AD to stay and sign an extension in NO, otherwise why would they consider it? By all accounts, Zion isn't changing AD's mind about staying.

Randle is a FA and can't be included in any deal.

[The Consiglieri]

If we could have luck in a lottery but not #1 luck, I don’t mind it being a future lottery. This feels like an ‘09/‘13 draft where there might be hidden gems but nobody knows who they are.

[Dark Faze]

Trade Beal. I wonder if the Pels do Beal + #9 for #1 and Randle

Nobody is trading Zion.

+1. Most valuable pick asset in more than a decade. They aren’t stupid. Trading veal is a must but it has to be for fantastic futures and picks and picks not in this draft. What were the best partners again, delusuional teams that don’t realize they aren’t contending in ‘20/‘21?

Eh, I wouldn't mind having three or four mid firsts in this draft. One is likely to land as a really good player. Problem is the chances of landing one with just a single pick feels terrible.

I like the look of Boston as a trade partner. Problem is they've got so much going on that it seems unlikely to happen. Between trying to keep Kyrie, trying to land AD, etc---I don't see it.

The real failure was not getting draft assets between Porter and Oubre. We should absolutely have at least an additional first round pick to show for Porter--between that and #9 we'd have had significantly more flexibility to trade up, down, etc.

I don't see how #9 gets you #14 and #20 in this draft.

[gesa2]

Beal for the Knicks pick, Robinson and a future 1st?
Beal for the Lakers pick, Ingram and a future 1st?
Both need filler for salary of course

[Illmatic12]

#9 for #14+#20 anyone? Precedent is the Portland-Kings trade (#10 for #15+#20 a couple of years ago). If Bol is gone, I'd do that trade.

In this draft, absolutely, regardless of who is on the board.

Herro & Bitadze? I'd be happy with that outcome.

Sato / Wall
Beal / Herro
TBJ
???
Bryant / Bitadze

Yeah, that team still sucks but it's fairly young.

Dealing Beal is definitely a priority now since we didn't move up.

For what? Memphis isn't trading Ja on a rookie contract for Beal who needs to be extended. After that, the picks are worthless to get someone of Beal's caliber. Keep Beal on the team IMO. We all saw what tanking teams ended up with (Knicks at 3, Cavs at 5, Suns at 6).

This. Tanking teams will not prosper moving forward, we're seeing that already.

If we're trading Beal it has to be for a stud prospect (s) - I'd look at something like Levert + Jarrett Allen + filler
Otherwise no trade, you keep Beal and add pieces around him. Sign him to an extension and wait out John's contract.

You can't move Brad for future picks that have no guarantee of being good

[prime1time]

Beal for the Knicks pick, Robinson and a future 1st?
Beal for the Lakers pick, Ingram and a future 1st?
Both need filler for salary of course

Robinson doesn't make much sense for us given that we have Bryant and Ingram has health issues. We don't need to be in a hurry to trade Beal. I'm fine with keeping him this offseason/year, and trading him next offseason. I think Beal positively impacts the growth of our young players. If we get a deal that blows our socks off, fine. But other than that I'm keeping him.

[nate33]

#9 for #14+#20 anyone? Precedent is the Portland-Kings trade (#10 for #15+#20 a couple of years ago). If Bol is gone, I'd do that trade.

In this draft, absolutely, regardless of who is on the board.

Herro & Bitadze? I'd be happy with that outcome.

Sato / Wall
Beal / Herro
TBJ
???
Bryant / Bitadze

Yeah, that team still sucks but it's fairly young.

Dealing Beal is definitely a priority now since we didn't move up.

Yes, time to deal Beal. Might as well tank next season with young players.

They're not trading Beal. They're still running a business and it's better to win 35 games than 22 games. And with the way the lottery odds have changed, your prospects of getting a top pick with the 9th worst record in the league aren't much worse than they are with the worst record in the league.

Think about it. In this draft, the 8th seed got the top pick, the 7th seed got the 2nd pick, and the 11th seed got the 4th pick. Why tank your way down to the bottom three?

[gravytrain24]

In my opinion, i think the wizards should try to trade down into the low teens and obtain more. Therefore getting pick 12-16, a 2nd rounder this year and a protected 1st next year.

[truwizfan4evr]

In my opinion, i think the wizards should try to trade down into the low teens and obtain more. Therefore getting pick 12-16, a 2nd rounder this year and a protected 1st next year.

Who will be left?

[80sballboy]

In this draft, absolutely, regardless of who is on the board.

Herro & Bitadze? I'd be happy with that outcome.

Sato / Wall
Beal / Herro
TBJ
???
Bryant / Bitadze

Yeah, that team still sucks but it's fairly young.

Dealing Beal is definitely a priority now since we didn't move up.

Yes, time to deal Beal. Might as well tank next season with young players.

They're not trading Beal. They're still running a business and it's better to win 35 games than 22 games. And with the way the lottery odds have changed, your prospects of getting a top pick with the 9th worst record in the league aren't much worse than they are with the worst record in the league.

Think about it. In this draft, the 8th seed got the top pick, the 7th seed got the 2nd pick, and the 11th seed got the 4th pick. Why tank your way down to the bottom three?

This is is a horrible draft in terms of depth. Maybe next year's draft is a lot better. Keeping Beal is good for business? Really? Who comes to the games now? People willing to see the other team? Let the GM come in and make his decisions about how to turn this CF around.

What happened in the lottery this year was a fluke. But I'm not saying tank to get the number one pick. I just want to accumulate draft picks and young talent over the next few years because we have none outside of Troy Brown Jr. and maybe Bryant, if we re-sign him.

[AFM]

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing we get the 2nd pick.

Can we ban moderators?

[gravytrain24]

In my opinion, i think the wizards should try to trade down into the low teens and obtain more. Therefore getting pick 12-16, a 2nd rounder this year and a protected 1st next year.

Who will be left?

Clarke, Bol, Alexander-Walker, Porter, Washington, Johnson, Hachimura just to name a few. Unless Coby White or Reddish falls, which i don't think they will, no one in that range moves the needle.

[AFM]

man we REALLY could have used a good pick to help with our rebuild, we really got f*cked, excuse ma francais....

[nate33]

I'm not all that upset about falling to #9. Yeah, it sucks that we didn't land a top 2 pick, but we only had an 18% chance of that happening. After #2, this draft is a crapshoot. I have no idea who the next best players are, and neither does anyone else. There are sure to be a lot of players picked in the 9-16 range who pan out to be better than the guys picked 3-8.

Hopefully, we paid our karma dues in this draft and the basketball gods will allow us to move up in a future draft when that extra couple of draft slots is likely to matter more.

[Dat2U]

In this draft, absolutely, regardless of who is on the board.

Herro & Bitadze? I'd be happy with that outcome.

Sato / Wall
Beal / Herro
TBJ
???
Bryant / Bitadze

Yeah, that team still sucks but it's fairly young.

Dealing Beal is definitely a priority now since we didn't move up.

Yes, time to deal Beal. Might as well tank next season with young players.

They're not trading Beal. They're still running a business and it's better to win 35 games than 22 games. And with the way the lottery odds have changed, your prospects of getting a top pick with the 9th worst record in the league aren't much worse than they are with the worst record in the league.

Think about it. In this draft, the 8th seed got the top pick, the 7th seed got the 2nd pick, and the 11th seed got the 4th pick. Why tank your way down to the bottom three?

The goal isn't tanking, the goal is getting the most for Beal while you can because you cannot win with him right now and eventually he's going to request a trade. I know he's playing the good soldier right now but all-NBA type players grow tired of 32-win type seasons very quickly.

[pancakes3]

it'd be great to trade down but nobody is going to cough up two first round picks for the 9th overall.

we just have to pray that Bol or Clarke are there. I know there are ppl on this board who are super low on Hunter but his stock is only rising. he turned down his combine invite which signals that he's gotten guarantee(s) that he'll be drafted high. we probably don't even have a shot at him at 9.

i'd be pretty upset if we draft Cam.

[Dat2U]

Memphis has Mike Conley and Delon Wright who finished the season with a pair of triple doubles. They have two legit starting caliber PGs on the roster. They also desperately wanted to dump Parsons using the 4 last year and had no takers before settling on JJJ and ending up very happy. Now that doesn't stop them from being all in on Morant but I could see them biting on Beal.

Beal / Howard for Rights to Morant, Parsons, Rabb & Wright?

[King Ken]

Memphis has Mike Conley and Delon Wright who finished the season with a pair of triple doubles. They have two legit starting caliber PGs on the roster. They also desperately wanted to dump Parsons using the 4 last year and had no takers before settling on JJJ and ending up very happy. Now that doesn't stop them from being all in on Morant but I could see them biting on Beal.

Beal / Howard for Rights to Morant, Parsons, Rabb & Wright?

Their going to trade Conley in the offseason regardless of this pick and Wright is a FA. It's extremely likely they take Morant.

[prime1time]

I like Reddish, so I'd be fine with keeping the pick and drafting him. I understand the reasoning behind trading back, but who would teams trade up to get? No player really jumps out to me. Unless you're talking about a team that has a specific need to fill, and a certain player on the board fills it. I also like Dombouya.

[AFM]

no offense but this board has gone to poo poo land. I blame PIF even though hes done nothing wrong but hes openly jewish so hes an easy target. no offense bro. but this board in its heyday would be storming NBA headquarters, our dicks fully erect demanding a better lottery pick. What the **** ninjas? CCJ have you even responded? Or are you rubbing moisturizer cream into Kristen Bell's back? I'm done with this board. Adios, arriederci, and shabat shalom PIF. This is my last poast until the bullez win 50 games and im not kidding. Adios ninjas.