Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[dcstanley]

Gortat, Beal, Porter, Morris, Ian, Meeks, Frazier I really don't care for.

Wall I kinda excuse because I've seen him at his peak and know what he's capable of, but for some reason he's regressed this year. I'd put all that on the table for trades. Wall, Sato, Oubre, Scott are the only players I consider worth a damn on this team.

Replace Wall with Beal and Otto for me. Beal’s still three or four years away from his prime, by then he’ll probably be better than Wall ever was.

[JWizmentality]

Gortat, Beal, Porter, Morris, Ian, Meeks, Frazier I really don't care for.

Wall I kinda excuse because I've seen him at his peak and know what he's capable of, but for some reason he's regressed this year. I'd put all that on the table for trades. Wall, Sato, Oubre, Scott are the only players I consider worth a damn on this team.

Replace Wall with Beal and Otto for me. Beal’s still three or four years away from his prime, by then he’ll probably be better than Wall ever was.

It's arguable if he's better than Wall now at his worst. I don't necessarily have any problem with Otto. Just that he's way too passive and I don't see any drive in him to be more aggressive. Which makes him overpaid.

The only thing Beal has over Wall at the moment is a slightly more consistent jumpshot. Other than that, they pretty much have the same flaws this year. Give me the proven commodity. Like I said. I've seen what Wall is capable of. I rather ride with that than Mr. 50 points on 45 shots and FT choke artist. No thanks.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If the Wizards can figure out a sensible way to get Kenny Faried at C they should go for it.

He's a plus rebounder but he has been mailing it in for the last couple of seasons. I think they need an energy guy. Burritos and energy guy who still plays Above the Rim.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'm going to leave that last series of typographical errors due to a mistranslation in there.

So far Moto G translator is much worse than that of the iPhone 6 or the Samsung S4 phones that I once had.

[NatP4]

Gortat, Beal, Porter, Morris, Ian, Meeks, Frazier I really don't care for.

Wall I kinda excuse because I've seen him at his peak and know what he's capable of, but for some reason he's regressed this year. I'd put all that on the table for trades. Wall, Sato, Oubre, Scott are the only players I consider worth a damn on this team.

Replace Wall with Beal and Otto for me. Beal’s still three or four years away from his prime, by then he’ll probably be better than Wall ever was.

It's arguable if he's better than Wall now at his worst. I don't necessarily have any problem with Otto. Just that he's way too passive and I don't see any drive in him to be more aggressive. Which makes him overpaid.

The only thing Beal has over Wall at the moment is a slightly more consistent jumpshot. Other than that, they pretty much have the same flaws this year. Give me the proven commodity. Like I said. I've seen what Wall is capable of. I rather ride with that than Mr. 50 points on 45 shots and FT choke artist. No thanks.

Mr. 50 points on 45 shots? Who is that again? Not the guy averaging 19 points on 16 shots? With the .514 TS?? Or the 71% free throw shooting?

Oh you meant the guy shooting 80% from the free throw line with a .560 TS%??

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

[LyricalRico]

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

+1000

I say get as much as you can for Wall and build around Beal+Porter+Oubre. It'll never happen, though.

[80sballboy]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

[bsilver]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

Evans would really help this year, but this trade will never happen. Evans gets a big raise next year and we couldn't afford him. Just throwing away the pick again.

[80sballboy]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

Evans would really help this year, but this trade will never happen. Evans gets a big raise next year and we couldn't afford him. Just throwing away the pick again.

That's why it could happen. He's done it twice, why not a third time?

[JWizmentality]

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

+1000

I say get as much as you can for Wall and build around Beal+Porter+Oubre. It'll never happen, though.

What a pretty depressing core.

[NatP4]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

I have absolutely no idea about James Ennis, but would Tyreke fit next to Satoransky? I like it in theory but not sure

[dcstanley]

Gortat, Beal, Porter, Morris, Ian, Meeks, Frazier I really don't care for.

Wall I kinda excuse because I've seen him at his peak and know what he's capable of, but for some reason he's regressed this year. I'd put all that on the table for trades. Wall, Sato, Oubre, Scott are the only players I consider worth a damn on this team.

Replace Wall with Beal and Otto for me. Beal’s still three or four years away from his prime, by then he’ll probably be better than Wall ever was.

It's arguable if he's better than Wall now at his worst. I don't necessarily have any problem with Otto. Just that he's way too passive and I don't see any drive in him to be more aggressive. Which makes him overpaid.

The only thing Beal has over Wall at the moment is a slightly more consistent jumpshot. Other than that, they pretty much have the same flaws this year. Give me the proven commodity. Like I said. I've seen what Wall is capable of. I rather ride with that than Mr. 50 points on 45 shots and FT choke artist. No thanks.

Nearly every facet of Beal’s offensive game is better than Wall’s at this point besides passing. Beal is pretty much on par with Wall at finishing at the rim (which is basically all Wall has as a scorer).

[deneem4]

We’re not trading wall...we have no reason, he’s been as successful as he could with the way the front office has handled player signings and trades

I’ll think about trading wall after seeing him play next to a top tier big...
How many teams have made the conference finals without one of those???

[80sballboy]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

I have absolutely no idea about James Ennis, but would Tyreke fit next to Satoransky? I like it in theory but not sure

Evans can play the 1, 2 or 3. I know it's all about Sato for you but I think we could use his production and experience. Ennis is a 6-7 wing who can score. He averaged 16ppg two years ago and is shooting 50% this year. But only around 35% from 3. Contractually, don't see it happening but would like to have a guy like Evans. I also think a guy like Ennis needs a quality point guard and hasn't had one with Conley injured.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ennisja01.html

[NatP4]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

I have absolutely no idea about James Ennis, but would Tyreke fit next to Satoransky? I like it in theory but not sure

Evans can play the 1, 2 or 3. I know it's all about Sato for you but I think we could use his production and experience. Ennis is a 6-7 wing who can score. He averaged 16ppg two years ago and is shooting 50% this year. But only around 35% from 3. Contractually, don't see it happening but would like to have a guy like Evans. I also think a guy like Ennis needs a quality point guard and hasn't had one with Conley injured.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ennisja01.html

You really gotta let go of this animosity with the Frazier/Sato thing lol. It’s okay to be wrong.

James Ennis averaged 15.9 points in a grand total of 9 games. Real impressive. He’s 52nd for small forwards in RPM this year.

So essentially we’re trading another 1st round pick for a couple months of Tyreke Evans.

[80sballboy]

I have absolutely no idea about James Ennis, but would Tyreke fit next to Satoransky? I like it in theory but not sure

Evans can play the 1, 2 or 3. I know it's all about Sato for you but I think we could use his production and experience. Ennis is a 6-7 wing who can score. He averaged 16ppg two years ago and is shooting 50% this year. But only around 35% from 3. Contractually, don't see it happening but would like to have a guy like Evans. I also think a guy like Ennis needs a quality point guard and hasn't had one with Conley injured.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ennisja01.html

You really gotta let go of this animosity with the Frazier/Sato thing lol. It’s okay to be wrong.

James Ennis averaged 15.9 points in a grand total of 9 games. Real impressive. He’s 52nd for small forwards in RPM this year.

So essentially we’re trading another 1st round pick for a couple months of Tyreke Evans.

I'm not obsessed with one player. I let it go. Sato is better but he's not special. Frazier was serviceable. I really don't care about Tim Frazier. That's the difference between you and me. I root for the team, not individuals. But was I wrong about Frazier? Sure. I was wrong.

I wasn't in favor of the deal. I just posted the idea and I wouldn't be shocked if we did something similar.

[Wizardspride]

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

+1000

I say get as much as you can for Wall and build around Beal+Porter+Oubre. It'll never happen, though.

What a pretty depressing core.

Tell me about it...

[ClutchDJ]

Replace Wall with Beal and Otto for me. Beal’s still three or four years away from his prime, by then he’ll probably be better than Wall ever was.

It's arguable if he's better than Wall now at his worst. I don't necessarily have any problem with Otto. Just that he's way too passive and I don't see any drive in him to be more aggressive. Which makes him overpaid.

The only thing Beal has over Wall at the moment is a slightly more consistent jumpshot. Other than that, they pretty much have the same flaws this year. Give me the proven commodity. Like I said. I've seen what Wall is capable of. I rather ride with that than Mr. 50 points on 45 shots and FT choke artist. No thanks.

Mr. 50 points on 45 shots? Who is that again? Not the guy averaging 19 points on 16 shots? With the .514 TS?? Or the 71% free throw shooting?

Oh you meant the guy shooting 80% from the free throw line with a .560 TS%??

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

No, Beal deserves the criticism that is coming to him. I love the guy, but I’m not going to excuse him for his atrocious 4th quarter play. Especially from a shooter of his caliber. Hopefully he’ll get out his slump soon.
I also don’t agree with him & Otto consistently playing hard every night, at least compared to last season. Really, Oubre & Sato are the only ones that I’ve seen has their shoes ready to go every night. Scott too if you want to include him.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

People are wayyyyyy too down on Beal, he’s averaging an efficient 23-4-4 for the 2nd year in a row, and he’s much improved defensively, actually pretty good. Also, him, Porter, Oubre, and Sato are the only guys that consistently play hard every night.

+1000

I say get as much as you can for Wall and build around Beal+Porter+Oubre. It'll never happen, though.

Without looking I think a deal involving Wall for George Hill, their lottery pick plus cap filler might be decent.

They have Vince Carter and Zach Randolph. They have Willie Cauley-stein. If they would take another bad contract plus John Wall it might be worth it.

Might easily be able to put pickup Trae Young, or DeAndre Ayton, or Jaren Jackson PLUS another 1st, like Miles Bridges.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Latest Bleacher Report trade ideas has Frazier, Smith and first-round pick to Memphis for James Ennis and Tyreke Evans. Not sure I'd do that to get two more expiring contracts for another first-rounder. They can help the offense no doubt. But who knows how they'll fit in the last couple of months with Wall and Beal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754679-nba-trade-ideas-could-cavs-brooklyn-pick-get-them-kemba-walker

Not the worst idea.

I would do that.

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