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Political Roundtable Part XVIII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1701 » by cammac » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:00 am

dckingsfan wrote:
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dckingsfan wrote:Actually, they do - their house is worth 1/2 the value. Their savings are worth 1/2 as well.

Let's say their net worth is 100,000. It would still be $100,000 but the dollar would be worth 1/2.

A Billionaire would still be a Billionaire but again, the dollar is worth half. One problem with this is that others with dollars might sell quickly and the dollar might fall to something like .2. Those nasty unintended consequences.


ONE WORD: ARGENTINA

Just think of the millions of people pouring over the Canadian border... SD is out to get you :)

We would man the barricades again lol defend the bridges and we know the metric system would screw your military up. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1702 » by cammac » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:16 am

Family Values! It is such a easy thing for a politician to say but to live is another thing?
Greitens was elected as governor in 2016. He ran for the office on being a family man and touted during the campaign that he was “a Navy SEAL, native Missourian and most importantly, a proud husband and father.”

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens (R) was indicted by a St. Louis grand jury Thursday on a felony invasion of privacy charge.
The indictment stems from allegations he threatened to release a naked photo of a woman he was having an affair with if she revealed their relationship.


http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/375163-missouri-governor-indicted-on-privacy-charge
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1703 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:23 am

cammac wrote:Family Values! It is such a easy thing for a politician to say but to live is another thing?
Greitens was elected as governor in 2016. He ran for the office on being a family man and touted during the campaign that he was “a Navy SEAL, native Missourian and most importantly, a proud husband and father.”

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens (R) was indicted by a St. Louis grand jury Thursday on a felony invasion of privacy charge.
The indictment stems from allegations he threatened to release a naked photo of a woman he was having an affair with if she revealed their relationship.


http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/375163-missouri-governor-indicted-on-privacy-charge


That means another open seat that Democrats can grab?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1704 » by queridiculo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:42 am

So, have you watched Wayne LaPierre's CPA address in its entirety?

It's almost impossible to come away thinking that there's any hope for this country to ever come together. What a sad joke.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1705 » by verbal8 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:48 am

stilldropin20 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:There have been a lot of bear attacks in this area, let's add more bears to fight off the bears attacking people!

Troll


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It is like the guy complaining about all the people driving towards him because he is the one driving the wrong direction.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1706 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:57 am

queridiculo wrote:So, have you watched Wayne LaPierre's CPA address in its entirety?

It's almost impossible to come away thinking that there's any hope for this country to ever come together. What a sad joke.



Well hopefully the NRA gets indicted for taking money from Russia.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1707 » by dckingsfan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:57 am

cammac wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
cammac wrote:
ONE WORD: ARGENTINA

Just think of the millions of people pouring over the Canadian border... SD is out to get you :)

We would man the barricades again lol defend the bridges and we know the metric system would screw your military up. :lol: :lol:

And just think how big your armed forces would become - but that would be a #hellofawall
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1708 » by JWizmentality » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:01 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1709 » by cammac » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:03 am

dckingsfan wrote:
cammac wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Just think of the millions of people pouring over the Canadian border... SD is out to get you :)

We would man the barricades again lol defend the bridges and we know the metric system would screw your military up. :lol: :lol:

And just think how big your armed forces would become - but that would be a #hellofawall


That's OK America will pay for it!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1711 » by verbal8 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:47 am

Who is worse Nunes or Cruz?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1712 » by Wizardspride » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:15 am

Read on Twitter
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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1713 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:31 am

Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Sounds like someone is worried about Russia.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1714 » by montestewart » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:41 am

verbal8 wrote:Who is worse Nunes or Cruz?

Nunes. Cruz has that Grandpa Munster thing going for him.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1715 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 am

nate33 wrote:Here are some interesting graphs comparing national homicide rates to those in various localities that enacted significant gun legislation:

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It looks to me that the data supports the pro-gun narrative in Washington, Chicago and Florida, and gun measures seemed to have little or no effect either way in Michigan and Texas.


So what you're saying is, after several years of rising gun violence, people institute gun controls, and after the gun violence slows down, they get rid of the controls?

Ok. Yeah, I agree that none of the typical gun control tools that the NRA allows us to use are effective. I like the idea of controlling the sale of semiautomatic guns more carefully and asking (requiring really) that people get insurance policies that pay out if their gun is used for a crime or to commit suicide.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1716 » by Wizardspride » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:56 am

Read on Twitter
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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1717 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:00 am

dckingsfan wrote:
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dckingsfan wrote:We already do that - see the Fed :)

Notes are dollars. If you issue a massive dollar (notes) influx to cover our debt the value of the dollar would fall precipitously. It might actually be the best way to take money from the rich (as Zonk advocates). Suddenly the value of everyone's money would be worth half.

In Russia in the 90s, they had several currency devaluations. I remember people with big bowls of change that was essentially worthless. many stores had trouble making change because no one wanted to keep much cash on hand, in case it was spontaneously devalued. Paying in US cash always got you a better deal, quite apart from any exchange rate.

Even speculative anticipation of such a move could drive the value of the dollar down, send money overseas (so much for repatriation), allow foreign carpetbaggers to feast on bargain US assets, hurt personal savings, drive inflation, etc.

Exactly. But it would be a way to pay-off the debt and do a huge wealth transfer from old people to young people. It still wouldn't help if you don't get the spending problem fixed though.


What? When have I ever advocated issuing a huge influx of money to take money from the rich? How crazy do you think I am? Dude, I have a Ph.D. in economics and have been working in the government professionally for almost two decades now. Respect mah authoriteh.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1718 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:31 am

Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter


So much for good guys with guns.

It's like we've woken up from this long nightmare, looked around and gone "what the hell were we thinking?"

Gun nuts are still asleep it seems.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1719 » by dckingsfan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:48 am

Zonkerbl wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
montestewart wrote:In Russia in the 90s, they had several currency devaluations. I remember people with big bowls of change that was essentially worthless. many stores had trouble making change because no one wanted to keep much cash on hand, in case it was spontaneously devalued. Paying in US cash always got you a better deal, quite apart from any exchange rate.

Even speculative anticipation of such a move could drive the value of the dollar down, send money overseas (so much for repatriation), allow foreign carpetbaggers to feast on bargain US assets, hurt personal savings, drive inflation, etc.

Exactly. But it would be a way to pay-off the debt and do a huge wealth transfer from old people to young people. It still wouldn't help if you don't get the spending problem fixed though.


What? When have I ever advocated issuing a huge influx of money to take money from the rich? How crazy do you think I am? Dude, I have a Ph.D. in economics and have been working in the government professionally for almost two decades now. Respect mah authoriteh.

No. You haven’t advocated that... if I said you did - I was off - did I really say you advocated a huge influx of money? Sorry!

The only thing I remember is you advocating for the rich to pay more taxes to pay down the debt.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1720 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:55 am

dckingsfan wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Exactly. But it would be a way to pay-off the debt and do a huge wealth transfer from old people to young people. It still wouldn't help if you don't get the spending problem fixed though.


What? When have I ever advocated issuing a huge influx of money to take money from the rich? How crazy do you think I am? Dude, I have a Ph.D. in economics and have been working in the government professionally for almost two decades now. Respect mah authoriteh.

No. You haven’t advocated that... if I said you did - I was off - did I really say you advocated a huge influx of money? Sorry!

The only thing I remember is you advocating for the rich to pay more taxes to pay down the debt.


The quote got cut off but it was in the same sentence as the huge influx of money thing so I was like woah woah woah woah!
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