Political Roundtable Part XXXI

[Zonkerbl]

Holy crap

Bah I'm a sucker, no mention of COVID being the cause of death in the article

I guess we'll find out

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I will say that COVID that is serious enough to land you in the hospital, which allegedly happened to her last November, will damage your heart, so it would be no surprise me if she had a heart attack that was made more likely by not being vaccinated when she got COVID.

Ugh, and doctors don't take women's heart attack symptoms seriously and it's worse for black women. Ugh. Just a tragic story all around. If any of it is true.

[pancakes3]

Katie Porter launches Senate Campaign!!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3806938-katie-porter-launches-bid-for-feinsteins-senate-seat/

[dobrojim]

CA could do a lot worse in replacing Feinstein than KP.
In thinking about her chances, I wonder how typical
her current constituents are compared to the state as a whole.
And which other Dems may also throw their hat in the ring.

[pancakes3]

CA could do a lot worse in replacing Feinstein than KP.
In thinking about her chances, I wonder how typical
her current constituents are compared to the state as a whole.
And which other Dems may also throw their hat in the ring.

looks like some decent competition for the seat. Ro Khanna, Barbara Lee, and Adam Schiff.

Katie Porter's district has the most republicans out of the four (only district to vote for Romney in 2012 and Bush in 2000/2004; still went Clinton/Biden in the Trump era).

i like all those congressmen, but I think Katie Porter is the best out of the 4, but really can't go wrong with any of them. Major upgrade from Feinstein.

[dobrojim]

CA could do a lot worse in replacing Feinstein than KP.
In thinking about her chances, I wonder how typical
her current constituents are compared to the state as a whole.
And which other Dems may also throw their hat in the ring.

looks like some decent competition for the seat. Ro Khanna, Barbara Lee, and Adam Schiff.

Katie Porter's district has the most republicans out of the four (only district to vote for Romney in 2012 and Bush in 2000/2004; still went Clinton/Biden in the Trump era).

i like all those congressmen, but I think Katie Porter is the best out of the 4, but really can't go wrong with any of them. Major upgrade from Feinstein.

So this could come down to what type of primary system CA runs and which of those candidates
that most favors.

[dckingsfan]

Nitwit Ds creating more jobs... sigh.

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[Zonkerbl]

Holy crap

Bah I'm a sucker, no mention of COVID being the cause of death in the article

I guess we'll find out

Read on Twitter

I will say that COVID that is serious enough to land you in the hospital, which allegedly happened to her last November, will damage your heart, so it would be no surprise me if she had a heart attack that was made more likely by not being vaccinated when she got COVID.

Ugh, and doctors don't take women's heart attack symptoms seriously and it's worse for black women. Ugh. Just a tragic story all around. If any of it is true.

Or I guess we won't find out, if no one in the family is willing to share the truth. We'll see how high the TMZ bribes get. Probably not interesting enough to TMZ etc. to pay enough to get them to spill. Or maybe she had a completely random heart attack after a completely random stint in the hospital in November, who knows.

[TGW]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

[Zonkerbl]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

[TGW]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

[dckingsfan]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

Wasn't it because he refused to return the confidential material? Wasn't it because he said that anything in his possession wasn't confidential because he was POTUS at one time?

If we are going to have the same "process" then I would hope the justice department would fully report on the incident. Then we can have the "outrage" if the issue isn't remedied. And politically, Biden should take a hit - what he did was wrong.

What I would like to see from progressives is nuance and not just a knee-jerk both sides "thing". Interesting that those that want to both side this issue didn't have initial outrage at what Trump did but now the outrage?

[Zonkerbl]

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

Wasn't it because he refused to return the confidential material? Wasn't it because he said that anything in his possession wasn't confidential because he was POTUS at one time?

If we are going to have the same "process" then I would hope the justice department would fully report on the incident. Then we can have the "outrage" if the issue isn't remedied. And politically, Biden should take a hit - what he did was wrong.

What I would like to see from progressives is nuance and not just a knee-jerk both sides "thing". Interesting that those that want to both side this issue didn't have initial outrage at what Trump did but now the outrage?

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the?sd=pf

"If you consider the facts, it’s easy to see that the two situations are apples to oranges. In one, there is evidence of knowledge that the classified material was there and intentional action to prevent its return to the government. In the other, at least insofar as we currently know, there is nothing beyond the appearance of negligence. While all spills of classified material are important and require a national security assessment of damage and risk, not all cases are criminal. Of course, that distinction is likely to be meaningless in the political sphere, where Republicans are already busy calling for Joe Biden’s head—seemingly without realizing the implications for Trump.

But false equivalencies are just that. They are false. If Trump had handled his situation in the same way the Biden team is handling theirs, Trump wouldn’t find himself in the legal quagmire he is now in. Had he returned the documents to the National Archives at the first request, it’s highly unlikely the public would have learned of the situation or cared much if they did. Just because Trump’s conduct merited criminal investigation, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Biden’s does."

Trump got in trouble because Trump is an idiot. Biden is now in trouble because Trump was an idiot.

[dckingsfan]

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

Wasn't it because he refused to return the confidential material? Wasn't it because he said that anything in his possession wasn't confidential because he was POTUS at one time?

If we are going to have the same "process" then I would hope the justice department would fully report on the incident. Then we can have the "outrage" if the issue isn't remedied. And politically, Biden should take a hit - what he did was wrong.

What I would like to see from progressives is nuance and not just a knee-jerk both sides "thing". Interesting that those that want to both side this issue didn't have initial outrage at what Trump did but now the outrage?

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the?sd=pf

"If you consider the facts, it’s easy to see that the two situations are apples to oranges. In one, there is evidence of knowledge that the classified material was there and intentional action to prevent its return to the government. In the other, at least insofar as we currently know, there is nothing beyond the appearance of negligence. While all spills of classified material are important and require a national security assessment of damage and risk, not all cases are criminal. Of course, that distinction is likely to be meaningless in the political sphere, where Republicans are already busy calling for Joe Biden’s head—seemingly without realizing the implications for Trump.

But false equivalencies are just that. They are false. If Trump had handled his situation in the same way the Biden team is handling theirs, Trump wouldn’t find himself in the legal quagmire he is now in. Had he returned the documents to the National Archives at the first request, it’s highly unlikely the public would have learned of the situation or cared much if they did. Just because Trump’s conduct merited criminal investigation, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Biden’s does."

Trump got in trouble because Trump is an idiot. Biden is now in trouble because Trump was an idiot.

And "we" are in trouble now because folks can't see the difference.

[Zonkerbl]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

Thanks for speaking for liberals like me, TGW. As you know I am way too stupid to articulate what I said previously myself. Appreciate your service.

[pancakes3]

i mean, if we're going to put words into other people's mouths, TGW's take only makes sense if he thinks Trump's lawsuit is pretextual harassment, and wants to use the same pretext to harass Biden.

Otherwise... something happened to President A. Something similar to President B. Both are being investigated. The investigators have determined President A's to be worth litigating. No conclusions yet for President B. Story is developing, but early reports indicate that President B's is not as big a deal. Ok. Move on with your life. Don't... for instance, take it as some sort of slight, conspiracy, opportunity to play gotcha, or failure of the system.

[bsilver]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Why, did he refuse to cooperate?

That has nothing to do with it. The liberals were saying Trump should have been arrested for having confidential, sensitive documents in his posession in non-secured areas.

Keep the same energy. I want to see the same outrage.

I'll be outraged if we find out Biden was behind the intentional removal of classified documents, and storing them on his property. Besides being a felony, it would show extremely poor judgement.

In a world where righteousness is important he should resign if guilty, but as a Democrat (more anti-Republican), I recognize the internal war now going on in the US, so am resigned to not caring so much any more about right and wrong. Not even sure what right and wrong mean any more.

[Zonkerbl]

Look forward to having a discussion around the actual facts of this case. Given that Biden is not nearly as stupid/evil as Trump, I really doubt Biden did anything as stupid/evil as what Trump did.

[TGW]

Special counsel now appointed to investigate “president B.” But no big deal at all…nothing to see here.

More hypocrisy from the liberals. Gtfoh. And lol at saying what Biden did wasn’t stupid. The guy left confidential docs in his freakin garage…that is the height of idiocy. Or maybe his Alzheimer’s is kicking in.

[dckingsfan]

Special counsel now appointed to investigate “president B.”...

This is good - now make it transparent. If Biden f'd up, he shouldn't run in 2024. This is how it is supposed to work.

Still waiting on your denouncement of Trump, that he intentionally pilfered documents, tried to not return them and used the office of the President to declare anything he had was not classified and that he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the office POTUS again.

Put me in my place if you did so in the past, maybe a post to that effect?

[Pointgod]

Damn…Biden is highly irresponsible with confidential documents. His offices, his hotel rooms, and his house.

Keep the same energy Democrats. Don’t be hypocrites on this.

Are you really this dumb?