Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI

[queridiculo]

Lol, so the one time Oubre just plays straight up he get a phantom call against him.

Nevermind, gave him too much credit, of course his hand came down for a swipe.

[BigA]

I heard on the Zack Lowe podcast today that the Wall trade kicker would be $20 million if he is traded before July 1, but goes away after that. So John is not going to be traded anytime soon.

[pcbothwel]

I heard on the Zack Lowe podcast today that the Wall trade kicker would be $20 million if he is traded before July 1, but goes away after that. So John is not going to be traded anytime soon.

John can waive it. Again, we could just say "Look, we are blowing it up and gonna be terrible. If you dont waive it, then you'll stay and then look to move you in the summer." Assuming its to a team he wants to got to (LAL, Mia, Suns, etc.) then he may say yes.

[payitforward]

Then he should've sign with Philly.

LeBron is not bigger than the Lakers organization itself. They're not the Cavaliers where he can just do whatever he wants.

Lol ok... you obviously have the inside info.

No. I just have a common sense. It is EASY to assume that we'd rather keep our young guns and our cap space to try to sign a player like KD, Kawhi or Klay rather than making a trade for John freakin Wall.

Hey man, you're welcome here -- I mean that. No reason why you shouldn't be.

But no fan wants someone coming around insulting his team's players, ok? Seems kind of obvious -- or as you might put it: common sense.

There's plenty of room to disagree, & there's plenty of stuff to talk about. & of course you're entitled to your opinion: that should go w/o saying.

But, that doesn't mean you need to be nasty, ok?

All meant respectfully -- not looking for an argument. Plus, it's great for basketball that a franchise like the Lakers become really good again; we all know that. Not to mention that you guys got one of the great draft bargains of the last 10 or more years when you were able to grab Josh Hart at the end of R1. He's going to be a terrific player for a long time.

[payitforward]

I heard on the Zack Lowe podcast today that the Wall trade kicker would be $20 million if he is traded before July 1, but goes away after that. So John is not going to be traded anytime soon.

John can waive it. Again, we could just say "Look, we are blowing it up and gonna be terrible. If you dont waive it, then you'll stay and then look to move you in the summer." Assuming its to a team he wants to got to (LAL, Mia, Suns, etc.) then he may say yes.

Ummm, that trade kicker takes the form of @ 4 million dollars. That's a pretty good incentive not to waive it!

[Dat2U]

I heard on the Zack Lowe podcast today that the Wall trade kicker would be $20 million if he is traded before July 1, but goes away after that. So John is not going to be traded anytime soon.

John can waive it. Again, we could just say "Look, we are blowing it up and gonna be terrible. If you dont waive it, then you'll stay and then look to move you in the summer." Assuming its to a team he wants to got to (LAL, Mia, Suns, etc.) then he may say yes.

Yeah I think he may waive it for the right situation.

[truwizfan4evr]

I heard on the Zack Lowe podcast today that the Wall trade kicker would be $20 million if he is traded before July 1, but goes away after that. So John is not going to be traded anytime soon.

John can waive it. Again, we could just say "Look, we are blowing it up and gonna be terrible. If you dont waive it, then you'll stay and then look to move you in the summer." Assuming its to a team he wants to got to (LAL, Mia, Suns, etc.) then he may say yes.

Yeah I think he may waive it for the right situation.

John said already he doesn't want to be traded.

[Dat2U]

John can waive it. Again, we could just say "Look, we are blowing it up and gonna be terrible. If you dont waive it, then you'll stay and then look to move you in the summer." Assuming its to a team he wants to got to (LAL, Mia, Suns, etc.) then he may say yes.

Yeah I think he may waive it for the right situation.

John said already he doesn't want to be traded.

We'll see. One half doesnt make up for weeks of trash effort, in-fighting and being the laughingstock of the league.

What had proceeded it was unconscionable and could not continue. It's all lip service until those pathetic efforts are a distant memory.

[Kobe System]

Lol ok... you obviously have the inside info.

No. I just have a common sense. It is EASY to assume that we'd rather keep our young guns and our cap space to try to sign a player like KD, Kawhi or Klay rather than making a trade for John freakin Wall.

Hey man, you're welcome here -- I mean that. No reason why you shouldn't be.

But no fan wants someone coming around insulting his team's players, ok? Seems kind of obvious -- or as you might put it: common sense.

There's plenty of room to disagree, & there's plenty of stuff to talk about. & of course you're entitled to your opinion: that should go w/o saying.

But, that doesn't mean you need to be nasty, ok?

All meant respectfully -- not looking for an argument. Plus, it's great for basketball that a franchise like the Lakers become really good again; we all know that. Not to mention that you guys got one of the great draft bargains of the last 10 or more years when you were able to grab Josh Hart at the end of R1. He's going to be a terrific player for a long time.

Sorry if you've felt somewhat disrespected. I am just responding to the other poster's sarcastic comment saying I have an inside info.

Anyways, I am not trashing John Wall. Great player. Just not the kind of player the Lakers are looking for with his contract. That's all I am saying.

Edit: Great comeback win against the Clippers today.

[Dark Faze]

I don't think the team is getting broken up. There's still something to work with here. But a lot of "smaller" adjustments need to be made. Start Sato. 15 minutes off the bench for Brown Jr. Look into replacing Rivers. Etc.

Unfortunately, Ted would need to buy into continuing to be a tax team to see decent improvement.

[truwizfan4evr]

I don't think the team is getting broken up. There's still something to work with here. But a lot of "smaller" adjustments need to be made. Start Sato. 15 minutes off the bench for Brown Jr. Look into replacing Rivers. Etc.

Unfortunately, Ted would need to buy into continuing to be a tax team to see decent improvement.

Deep down inside no one wants this group to break up and we hope something positive can continue happening.

[Shanghai Kid]

To be honest, it may sound nice but when push comes to shove I legit do not see the team trading John Wall unless they are getting something in return. I just can't see them doing it as a salary dump.

[truwizfan4evr]

To be honest, it may sound nice but when push comes to shove I legit do not see the team trading John Wall unless they are getting something in return. I just can't see them doing it as a salary dump.

i wan't to give this group a chance anyway after yesterday win.

[barelyawake]

Wow look what happens when you give Wall a mobile big to work with. Imagine one with leadership skills who could also calm down the lockeroom and focus things? Look what Sato can do when given minutes. Imagine what he could do with a big with leadership skills.

We aren’t going to tank. So, make the trades needed to add more leadership to the bench (and get us a new coach), and watch us boom.

[TGW]

Wow look what happens when you give Wall a mobile big to work with. Imagine one with leadership skills who could also calm down the lockeroom and focus things? Look what Sato can do when given minutes. Imagine what he could do with a big with leadership skills.

We aren’t going to tank. So, make the trades needed to add more leadership to the bench (and get us a new coach), and watch us boom.

Uh no. Nothing last night should change what the Wizards should obviously do...rebuild.

[truwizfan4evr]

Wow look what happens when you give Wall a mobile big to work with. Imagine one with leadership skills who could also calm down the lockeroom and focus things? Look what Sato can do when given minutes. Imagine what he could do with a big with leadership skills.

We aren’t going to tank. So, make the trades needed to add more leadership to the bench (and get us a new coach), and watch us boom.

Uh no. Nothing last night should change what the Wizards should obviously do...rebuild.

At Least let's see what happens next game before we decide that.

[The Consiglieri]

!!!!!!!!!!

I know. Still, I take it as a good sign that a reasonable offer was made. It would be a better sign if EG is fired soon, and Ted tells the new guy to clean house.

Actually, Ted should hire a good new guy, then tell him... nothing! ASK him what to do. Or, better yet, go on a long vacation.

It's a case of Owner Malpractice to have a team cratering, and let the GM/Coach make season saving trade attempts when both are well past their sell by dates. It's just infuriating to watch this. Still trying to figure out how the TWolves were able to avoid that. I'm not gonna believe we'll blow it up and rebuild until we actually start firing people starting with EG, but at least there's some smoke regarding possible trades.

[barelyawake]

Wow look what happens when you give Wall a mobile big to work with. Imagine one with leadership skills who could also calm down the lockeroom and focus things? Look what Sato can do when given minutes. Imagine what he could do with a big with leadership skills.

We aren’t going to tank. So, make the trades needed to add more leadership to the bench (and get us a new coach), and watch us boom.

Uh no. Nothing last night should change what the Wizards should obviously do...rebuild.

The problems with this team are almost entirely mental (when playing the proper rotations), and given the right supporting cast (who can lead from the bench) and a coach who can change our outlook. That’s a lot easier to do than rebuild an entire team from the ground up again. And if my plan doesn’t work, there is plenty of time to tank.

Becky, Tristan, Ariza. More Sato. More Howard. Feed Otto in the first quarter. Trade Rivers, Morris and company for real vet leadership. If Pierce or Ariza were still on this team (as the safety net in more ways than one), we’d be top three in the East.

Btw, I’d fire EG now. While we can. Hell, let Becky be our GM and coach. That will certainly change the story about us. And when that story changes, watch as Wall suddenly starts getting more foul calls on his drives (where now they swallow their whistles because of his press).

[truwizfan4evr]

I know. Still, I take it as a good sign that a reasonable offer was made. It would be a better sign if EG is fired soon, and Ted tells the new guy to clean house.

Actually, Ted should hire a good new guy, then tell him... nothing! ASK him what to do. Or, better yet, go on a long vacation.

It's a case of Owner Malpractice to have a team cratering, and let the GM/Coach make season saving trade attempts when both are well past their sell by dates. It's just infuriating to watch this. Still trying to figure out how the TWolves were able to avoid that. I'm not gonna believe we'll blow it up and rebuild until we actually start firing people starting with EG, but at least there's some smoke regarding possible trades.

Ernie happy to know he has a yes man for a owner. he can do whatever he likes with no accountability.

[Ruzious]

Wow look what happens when you give Wall a mobile big to work with. Imagine one with leadership skills who could also calm down the lockeroom and focus things? Look what Sato can do when given minutes. Imagine what he could do with a big with leadership skills.

We aren’t going to tank. So, make the trades needed to add more leadership to the bench (and get us a new coach), and watch us boom.

Uh no. Nothing last night should change what the Wizards should obviously do...rebuild.

The problems with this team are almost entirely mental (when playing the proper rotations), and given the right supporting cast (who can lead from the bench) and a coach who can change our outlook. That’s a lot easier to do than rebuild an entire team from the ground up again. And if my plan doesn’t work, there is plenty of time to tank.

Becky, Tristan, Ariza. More Sato. More Howard. Feed Otto in the first quarter. Trade Rivers, Morris and company for real vet leadership. If Pierce or Ariza were still on this team (as the safety net in more ways than one), we’d be top three in the East.

Btw, I’d fire EG now. While we can. Hell, let Becky be our GM and coach. That will certainly change the story about us. And when that story changes, watch as Wall suddenly starts getting more foul calls on his drives (where now they swallow their whistles because of his press).

I do wonder where they'd be right now if they had hired Budenholzer in the offseason - and where the Bucks would be now if they had hired someone like Brooks. Right now, I don't think there's any saving this team for this season.