Zonkerbl wrote:bsilver wrote:JazzyPhinz wrote:
It could also be that it was perceived that the dems sabotaged Bernie who had a huge following.
I personally know a bunch of Jill Stein voters just from that thinking Trump had no chance of winning.
Trump won because he won Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan - the blue collar states HRC neglected. HRC would have needed all three.
Looking at the number of Jill Stein voters in these states, one can see that only in Michigan would it changed the result if a significant number (about 20%) of Stein voters went for Clinton. In PA it would have to be about 50% of Stein voters, and in Wisconsin about 70%.
Gary Johnson got more votes than Stein. I wonder if he took more votes from Trump or Clinton.
Meh. I remember my parents always voting for non-Dem candidates since the seventies, there's always a Jill Stein to vote for if you want to make a statement vote. Like you say, HRC lost because when she appeared in Michigan her approval rate there WENT DOWN. That's why she never went to those three states. And this is the candidate the Dems chose to represent them.
so your hippy parents didn't teach you anything about the real world? So you just hate on the "real world" because you dont understand how to compete within it? They didn't teach you that a great education is not necessarily enough? They didn't teach you that making "friends" isn't necessarily enough? That learning how to theoretically make money doesn't mean you will actually make money? They didn't teach you that you actually have to take real and difficult risks? They didn't teach you about patience, perseverance, consistency, desire? That's why you (and your 5 liberal amigos) come on here everyday to tell the rest of us that figured some of these things out on our own, and were brave enough to take these painful risks on our own, that put in the extreme hard work and long days for decades...after all that...decades of it...that we should just lay down and give it up? So you hippies and hipsters can have free stuff? So it can be easier on you? You guys dont think you should have to take some risks to have something of value? You guys think that someone (perhaps both parents) at some point in your lineage are not going to need to put in 18 hour days for decades and save their money and reinvest it instead of buying cars, and rims, and single family homes, and vacations?? You think that you're just going to tax the hard workers, the dreamers, the risk takers...and they will "take it" laying down?? Really???
How about you just do a better job with your kids than your parents did for you? teach them that sometimes its in their best interest to keep "friends" around that are not necessarily friendly or nice. Teach them to build assets that appreciate and generate cash flow. Slowly. Over time. and build upon those assets. teach them that the only kind of money that actually is "worth" something is the kind of money that is made while others do the work to attain it. Teach them to take risks. hard and difficult risks...but calculated...the kinds of risks and work that often dont pay off for 2-3 decades. Teach them those lessons. And maybe they wont be as angry and bitter as you guys.
Now... you guys probably dont even know any of these lessons anyway. but I do. and I can teach you. I can teach all of you. But i wont. Not because i cant nor choose not to but because all of you are too chicken to learn. nd your hearts are too closed off to learn. And thats the only reason I wont. Because of you. not me. You. Only you remain in your way of independent wealth. Think about it.
