Political Roundtable Part XXIII

[daoneandonly]

So according to daoneandonly Liberals don’t pay any taxes. Someone should notify the IRS since they’re missing out on a huge revenue stream.

Didnt say they didnt, but they just cant help themselves, they want more and more. Free healthcare, free college education, wipe out student loan debt, none of these things are feasible or sensible.

Liberlas pay taxes yes, but they dont care for the word accountability whatsoever. Proven time and time again.

Yet querdi calls me the simpleton when he thinks these the platform to stand on, sure.

[queridiculo]

Your opinion really means the world to me, please stop calling me that, it hurts

Simpletons are those that cant work hard and want thinks handed to them, i.e., you and your liberal left. I'll keep working at my job and making more in a year than you'll make in a decade

But keep on banking on PP to buy your contraceptives instead of just you know, paying for them yourself.

Woosh, yet again demonstrating how complex issues overwhelm your critical thinking faculties.

Simpleton indeed.

[daoneandonly]

Your opinion really means the world to me, please stop calling me that, it hurts

Simpletons are those that cant work hard and want thinks handed to them, i.e., you and your liberal left. I'll keep working at my job and making more in a year than you'll make in a decade

But keep on banking on PP to buy your contraceptives instead of just you know, paying for them yourself.

Woosh, yet again demonstrating how complex issues overwhelm your critical thinking faculties.

Simpleton indeed.

Has anyone ever told you that you contribute nothing to society? That you are in fact, a nobody? No? Because though you prove it time and time again, everyone's life has some value, a concept the liberal left will never understand. because that requires responsibility and what's that word again, oh yeah, accountability.

let me know if those words are too big for your high school equivalency degree, I can find shorter ones.

[Jamaaliver]

Trump demands action to reduce deficit, pushes new deficit spending



President Trump is demanding top advisers craft a plan to reduce the country’s ballooning budget deficits, but the president has flummoxed his own aides by repeatedly seeking new spending while ruling out measures needed to address the country’s unbalanced budget.

Even as Trump has told aides he’s finally interested in taking steps to reduce deficits, he has floated several ideas that would further expand them. He has proposed a 10 percent tax cut for the middle class, a huge package of infrastructure spending and billions of dollars for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. He hasn’t specified how he would pay for any of those things.

Because the government spends much more than it brings in through taxes, it must borrow money to cover the balance by issuing debt. The U.S. Treasury projects it will issue $1.3 trillion in new debt this year, more than double its borrowing from one year ago.

Trump’s internal contradictions on the budget mirror how conflicted the Republican Party has become on an issue that had been one of its tenets for decades. Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), who campaigned on reducing deficits, has rarely brought up the issue with the president in recent months.

“Republicans have talked a good game about deficit spending, but in reality, their record shows they haven’t stood up and stopped it,” said Marc Short, the president’s former director of legislative affairs.

As they prepared a tax bill in 2017, Republicans initially suggested their plan would offset the cuts with tax increases elsewhere, but they abandoned that commitment early in the process. Trump in December signed a law that nonpartisan analyses suggest will add $1.5 trillion to deficits over the next decade. That figure is projected to jump to more than $2 trillion if the law’s temporary cuts to income tax rates are made permanent.

Many Republicans have said the tax cuts will pay for themselves by producing a massive jump in economic growth — a claim rejected at the time by many economists across the political spectrum.

Washington Post

[TGW]

So according to daoneandonly Liberals don’t pay any taxes. Someone should notify the IRS since they’re missing out on a huge revenue stream.

Didnt say they didnt, but they just cant help themselves, they want more and more. Free healthcare, free college education, wipe out student loan debt, none of these things are feasible or sensible.

First of all...none of that is actually "free." It's paid for by TAX DOLLARS.

Second of all, OF COURSE IT'S FEASIBLE. Are you nuts? The college education program is a measly $47B a year. Student loan debt could have been wiped out with the last proposed military budget increase. Our current healthcare system costs $48T over ten years; a Medicare for All system would cost $32T.

You conservatives claim to be pro-life, but have no problem with 50,000 dead Americans every year due to lack of access to healthcare. You have no problem with the silly, expensive wars that cost us trillions of dollars.

You people (YEP....YOU PEOPLE) pick and choose which lives you care about, and that's why no one takes you seriously.

[gtn130]

The funny thing about daoneandonly's right wing talking points is that they're all from like 2008. Chastising liberals for being TAKERS and BABY KILLERS is pretty old hat compared to what conservatives are really into these days.

Just wait until he stumbles into QAnon type content or discovers the entire YouTube platform.

[queridiculo]

Has anyone ever told you that you contribute nothing to society? That you are in fact, a nobody? No? Because though you prove it time and time again, everyone's life has some value, a concept the liberal left will never understand. because that requires responsibility and what's that word again, oh yeah, accountability.

let me know if those words are too big for your high school equivalency degree, I can find shorter ones.

So much to unwrap in your incoherent ramblings, but what humors me the most is that you're painting yourself as compassionate.

[daoneandonly]

So according to daoneandonly Liberals don’t pay any taxes. Someone should notify the IRS since they’re missing out on a huge revenue stream.

Didnt say they didnt, but they just cant help themselves, they want more and more. Free healthcare, free college education, wipe out student loan debt, none of these things are feasible or sensible.

First of all...none of that is actually "free." It's paid for by TAX DOLLARS.

Second of all, OF COURSE IT'S FEASIBLE. Are you nuts? The college education program is a measly $47B a year. Student loan debt could have been wiped out with the last proposed military budget increase. Our current healthcare system costs $48T over ten years; a Medicare for All system would cost $32T.

You conservatives claim to be pro-life, but have no problem with 50,000 dead Americans every year due to lack of access to healthcare. You have no problem with the silly, expensive wars that cost us trillions of dollars.

You people (YEP....YOU PEOPLE) pick and choose which lives you care about, and that's why no one takes you seriously.

By INCREASING tax dollars exponentially. I pay enough taxes, I don't need to pay more to make it easier for others to pay for their stuff. If we go this route, people will be paying ass more for then they do now with taxes and employer health insurance premiums combined, No.

And post credible proof of your 50,000 lives a year dead because of no insurance, that's an outlandish number just used as a scared tactic.

[daoneandonly]

The funny thing about daoneandonly's right wing talking points is that they're all from like 2008. Chastising liberals for being TAKERS and BABY KILLERS is pretty old hat compared to what conservatives are really into these days.

Just wait until he stumbles into QAnon type content or discovers the entire YouTube platform.

What do conservatives do that's worse than killing a child? In most people's books, hurting a child is the worst thing you can do, so I'd imagine killing would be worse.

Go ahead and explain, oh let me guess, the baby is not a child. That's rich.

[daoneandonly]

Has anyone ever told you that you contribute nothing to society? That you are in fact, a nobody? No? Because though you prove it time and time again, everyone's life has some value, a concept the liberal left will never understand. because that requires responsibility and what's that word again, oh yeah, accountability.

let me know if those words are too big for your high school equivalency degree, I can find shorter ones.

So much to unwrap in your incoherent ramblings, but what humors me the most is that you're painting yourself as compassionate.

And you do the same, you dont care about the life of an innocent baby, dont sit there and act like you care about the uninsured, refugees, the poor, etc. You care about what makes your life easier, plain & simple.

[pancakes3]

Didnt say they didnt, but they just cant help themselves, they want more and more. Free healthcare, free college education, wipe out student loan debt, none of these things are feasible or sensible.

First of all...none of that is actually "free." It's paid for by TAX DOLLARS.

Second of all, OF COURSE IT'S FEASIBLE. Are you nuts? The college education program is a measly $47B a year. Student loan debt could have been wiped out with the last proposed military budget increase. Our current healthcare system costs $48T over ten years; a Medicare for All system would cost $32T.

You conservatives claim to be pro-life, but have no problem with 50,000 dead Americans every year due to lack of access to healthcare. You have no problem with the silly, expensive wars that cost us trillions of dollars.

You people (YEP....YOU PEOPLE) pick and choose which lives you care about, and that's why no one takes you seriously.

By INCREASING tax dollars exponentially. I pay enough taxes, I don't need to pay more to make it easier for others to pay for their stuff. If we go this route, people will be paying ass more for then they do now with taxes and employer health insurance premiums combined, No.

And post credible proof of your 50,000 lives a year dead because of no insurance, that's an outlandish number just used as a scared tactic.

no, bro.

you can have exactly the same level of current taxation (or less) to fund free college, if military spending is curbed even a little bit.

if we move away from employer/self-provided insurance to medicare for all, any increases in taxes will be offset by gains in not having to pay for health insurance premiums (if you self-provide, it's money back in your pocket, if your employer provides, they just take what they would pay for insurance and increase your salary respectively).

this stuff is cost-neutral at worst. it has nothing to do with evil dems trying to get their fingers into your wallet. it's a nonpartisan win for all.

[Doug_Blew]

He's kinda like Marco Rubio. He only has one talking point programmed.

I dunno, his fixation with little children is starting to border on creepy.

And you and your baby killing brigade (gtn, quedi, point, sedale) only see things from a left, unaccountable perspective. What helps me without me having to pay for it, that's the liberal mantra. Free helathcare, just tax the hell out of the higher income folks, free college education, same way. I took money for student loans, just wipe it out completely.

Is that just one talking point? No, let's talk how the liberals want everything for free without working for it.

Only way i know how to wipe out student loans completely is to file chapter 11 ( Like our president has done multiple times).

[queridiculo]

Has anyone ever told you that you contribute nothing to society? That you are in fact, a nobody? No? Because though you prove it time and time again, everyone's life has some value, a concept the liberal left will never understand. because that requires responsibility and what's that word again, oh yeah, accountability.

let me know if those words are too big for your high school equivalency degree, I can find shorter ones.

So much to unwrap in your incoherent ramblings, but what humors me the most is that you're painting yourself as compassionate.

And you do the same, you dont care about the life of an innocent baby, dont sit there and act like you care about the uninsured, refugees, the poor, etc. You care about what makes your life easier, plain & simple.

It's pointless arguing with you because in your simpleton brain you cannot even connect the dots between defunding planned parenthood, forcing women to carry to term ,and harming "innocent babies".

There's one thing I can say with absolute certainty, the world would be a better place without binary sheeple like you.

[daoneandonly]

So much to unwrap in your incoherent ramblings, but what humors me the most is that you're painting yourself as compassionate.

And you do the same, you dont care about the life of an innocent baby, dont sit there and act like you care about the uninsured, refugees, the poor, etc. You care about what makes your life easier, plain & simple.

It's pointless arguing with you because in your simpleton brain you cannot even connect the dots between defunding planned parenthood, forcing women to carry to term ,and harming "innocent babies".

There's one thing I can say with absolute certainty, the world would be a better place without binary sheeple like you.

Wow wishing death on me because we dont agree politically, you are as classless as they come.

[queridiculo]

Wow wishing death on me because we dont agree politically, you are as classless as they come.

Wishing people with your mindset wouldn't exist isn't quite the same as wishing death on somebody, but I'm not surprised by your characterization.

[Pointgod]

The funny thing about daoneandonly's right wing talking points is that they're all from like 2008. Chastising liberals for being TAKERS and BABY KILLERS is pretty old hat compared to what conservatives are really into these days.

Just wait until he stumbles into QAnon type content or discovers the entire YouTube platform.

Lol it’s always funny how these guys try to paint themselves as something they’re not. Remember daoneandonly was a Kaepernick supporting, Medicare for all supporter that only voted for Trump because of the Supreme Court to protect those innocent non human lives. Press him a bit and he turns into your typical right wing hack that only wants to horde his money, supports Trump unconditionally and spits out your Uncles favourite Clinton conspiracies. Remember when STD tried to claim that he’s a Bernie supporter that voted twice for Obama hahahaha why do these people insist we will ever fall for their bull?

[TGW]

Didnt say they didnt, but they just cant help themselves, they want more and more. Free healthcare, free college education, wipe out student loan debt, none of these things are feasible or sensible.

First of all...none of that is actually "free." It's paid for by TAX DOLLARS.

Second of all, OF COURSE IT'S FEASIBLE. Are you nuts? The college education program is a measly $47B a year. Student loan debt could have been wiped out with the last proposed military budget increase. Our current healthcare system costs $48T over ten years; a Medicare for All system would cost $32T.

You conservatives claim to be pro-life, but have no problem with 50,000 dead Americans every year due to lack of access to healthcare. You have no problem with the silly, expensive wars that cost us trillions of dollars.

You people (YEP....YOU PEOPLE) pick and choose which lives you care about, and that's why no one takes you seriously.

By INCREASING tax dollars exponentially. I pay enough taxes, I don't need to pay more to make it easier for others to pay for their stuff. If we go this route, people will be paying ass more for then they do now with taxes and employer health insurance premiums combined, No.

And post credible proof of your 50,000 lives a year dead because of no insurance, that's an outlandish number just used as a scared tactic.

From 2009:

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

The number has increased to a shade under 50,000 in 2017. Go ahead...try and sugarcoat that with your BS "free-market" ramblings.

And you clearly don't understand the Medicare for All plan by your reference to premiums, which would be eliminated. Do research and stop being lazy and expecting others to spoonfeed you information.

[queridiculo]

From 2009:

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

The number has increased to a shade under 50,000 in 2017. Go ahead...try and sugarcoat that with your BS "free-market" ramblings.

And you clearly don't understand the Medicare for All plan by your reference to premiums, which would be eliminated. Do research and stop being lazy and expecting others to spoonfeed you information.

Remember, this is the same guy that claims he's paying for his health care while having a condition that requires lifelong care.

Talk about cognitive dissonance, I wish he would see how much his healthcare premium was without other people footing the bill for him.

[daoneandonly]

The funny thing about daoneandonly's right wing talking points is that they're all from like 2008. Chastising liberals for being TAKERS and BABY KILLERS is pretty old hat compared to what conservatives are really into these days.

Just wait until he stumbles into QAnon type content or discovers the entire YouTube platform.

Lol it’s always funny how these guys try to paint themselves as something they’re not. Remember daoneandonly was a Kaepernick supporting, Medicare for all supporter that only voted for Trump because of the Supreme Court to protect those innocent non human lives. Press him a bit and he turns into your typical right wing hack that only wants to horde his money, supports Trump unconditionally and spits out your Uncles favourite Clinton conspiracies. Remember when STD tried to claim that he’s a Bernie supporter that voted twice for Obama hahahaha why do these people insist we will ever fall for their bull?

Where exactly did I ever support medicare for all? Dont make up shiz to further your argument

I did vote for Trump for the SCOTUS and only the SCOTUS. And he repaid me by giving me tax relief in the form of $400 a month, that's my money, i earned it, and I'll spend it how i see fit.

And i still stand with Kap and BLM, querdi is probably the first ever african american i ever disliked, ever. You know that argument ppl always say some of my best friends are black, well probably 88% of mine are. Look at my logo in my username, HU, the Mecca, where I met some of my closest friends. friends I disagree with politically on many things, but still love them like fam, and they cna respect a guy's stance on protecting a child/

You guys are quick to call names and shout on a forum, but wouldnt do so in real life. Whereas i donate time and money to every pro life cause i can.

[daoneandonly]

From 2009:

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

The number has increased to a shade under 50,000 in 2017. Go ahead...try and sugarcoat that with your BS "free-market" ramblings.

And you clearly don't understand the Medicare for All plan by your reference to premiums, which would be eliminated. Do research and stop being lazy and expecting others to spoonfeed you information.

Remember, this is the same guy that claims he's paying for his health care while having a condition that requires lifelong care.

Talk about cognitive dissonance, I wish he would see how much his healthcare premium was without other people footing the bill for him.

Key word jack ass, i pay and ive always paid since i started working. Dont use my condition as a joke or to further your argument, you're a POS, low life