Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

[Rafael122]

I'm trying to get my arms around what LA is doing.

They had a payroll of $41M consisting of Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Wagner, Zubac and Deng's corpse.
They added Lebron at $36M, KCP and $12M, Mcgee at $2.4M and Lance at $4.5M, getting them up to a payroll of $96M for the following roster:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C McGee, Zubac

They still have about $3.5M of cap room left to spend, plus they can then spend the $4.4M Room Exception.

Next year, everyone comes off the books except Lebron, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner and Deng; giving them a payroll of $78M. That should result in $32M in cap room to throw at Kawhi.

In the meantime, they are in need of cheap depth at center so they don't have to rely on McGee. I'd have to assume Noel is a priority, though a guy like O'Quinn might make more sense from a locker room professionalism perspective.

We're probably going to have to offer more than their best offer of $4.4M to get Noel. I don't know if Ted is willing to do that.

I'm a bit surprised at the Lance Stephenson signin, but everything else makes a lot of sense. It's a 2 year plan. This year they'll be as good as Lebron can take them, but not really in the class of Golden State. Next year, they're contenders.

Looks like they might be adding Evans and retaining Randle. It's a nice squad if that happens but it won't beat GSW.

[nate33]

I'm trying to get my arms around what LA is doing.

They had a payroll of $41M consisting of Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Wagner, Zubac and Deng's corpse.
They added Lebron at $36M, KCP and $12M, Mcgee at $2.4M and Lance at $4.5M, getting them up to a payroll of $96M for the following roster:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C McGee, Zubac

They still have about $3.5M of cap room left to spend, plus they can then spend the $4.4M Room Exception.

Next year, everyone comes off the books except Lebron, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner and Deng; giving them a payroll of $78M. That should result in $32M in cap room to throw at Kawhi.

In the meantime, they are in need of cheap depth at center so they don't have to rely on McGee. I'd have to assume Noel is a priority, though a guy like O'Quinn might make more sense from a locker room professionalism perspective.

We're probably going to have to offer more than their best offer of $4.4M to get Noel. I don't know if Ted is willing to do that.

I'm a bit surprised at the Lance Stephenson signin, but everything else makes a lot of sense. It's a 2 year plan. This year they'll be as good as Lebron can take them, but not really in the class of Golden State. Next year, they're contenders.

Don't they also still have Randle's rights? Bringing him back and adding another vet like Tyreke Evans would definitely help. Even so, jumping on Lance/JaVale is still curious since I'd expect both of them to still be there a couple days from now. Once it sunk in around the league that LeBron was going to LA, I wonder what else might have opened up for them.

Oh and I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow still made a move involving Lonzo Ball, even if it's not for Kawhi Leonard.

By my math, they would have had to renounce Randall's rights in order to make room for the signings they have made.

[pcbothwel]

I'm trying to get my arms around what LA is doing.

They had a payroll of $41M consisting of Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Wagner, Zubac and Deng's corpse.
They added Lebron at $36M, KCP and $12M, Mcgee at $2.4M and Lance at $4.5M, getting them up to a payroll of $96M for the following roster:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C McGee, Zubac

They still have about $3.5M of cap room left to spend, plus they can then spend the $4.4M Room Exception.

Next year, everyone comes off the books except Lebron, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner and Deng; giving them a payroll of $78M. That should result in $32M in cap room to throw at Kawhi.

In the meantime, they are in need of cheap depth at center so they don't have to rely on McGee. I'd have to assume Noel is a priority, though a guy like O'Quinn might make more sense from a locker room professionalism perspective.

We're probably going to have to offer more than their best offer of $4.4M to get Noel. I don't know if Ted is willing to do that.

I'm a bit surprised at the Lance Stephenson signin, but everything else makes a lot of sense. It's a 2 year plan. This year they'll be as good as Lebron can take them, but not really in the class of Golden State. Next year, they're contenders.

Don't they also still have Randle's rights? Bringing him back and adding another vet like Tyreke Evans would definitely help. Even so, jumping on Lance/JaVale is still curious since I'd expect both of them to still be there a couple days from now. Once it sunk in around the league that LeBron was going to LA, I wonder what else might have opened up for them.

Oh and I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow still made a move involving Lonzo Ball, even if it's not for Kawhi Leonard.

By my math, they would have had to renounce Randall's rights in order to make room for the signings they have made.

No, they signed Lebron & KCP with cap room and are now over the salary cap with Randles Cap hold.
They then used the Room exception on Lance and the Vet Min on Javale

[nate33]

Don't they also still have Randle's rights? Bringing him back and adding another vet like Tyreke Evans would definitely help. Even so, jumping on Lance/JaVale is still curious since I'd expect both of them to still be there a couple days from now. Once it sunk in around the league that LeBron was going to LA, I wonder what else might have opened up for them.

Oh and I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow still made a move involving Lonzo Ball, even if it's not for Kawhi Leonard.

By my math, they would have had to renounce Randall's rights in order to make room for the signings they have made.

No, they signed Lebron & KCP with cap room and are now over the salary cap with Randles Cap hold.
They then used the Room exception on Lance and the Vet Min on Javale

Hmmm. Looks like I got some numbers wrong. The total of their contracts on the books was $37M not $41M. Also, McGee doesn't count because he can technically be signed using the vet minimum after everyone else signs using cap room. So their cap total isn't $96M. It's more like $89M. That leaves just enough for Randle's $12.4M cap hold.

So they're rolling with:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C Randle, McGee, Zubac

Damn, that's pretty good!

[Kanyewest]

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[LyricalRico]

So they're rolling with:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C Randle, McGee, Zubac

Damn, that's pretty good!

Good, but still fighting with OKC for third in the West this season. Of course 2019 could be a different story, tho.

[nate33]

So they're rolling with:

PG Ball, Ennis
SG Ingram, Hart
SF KCP, Lance, Deng
PF Lebron, Kuzma, Wagner
C Randle, McGee, Zubac

Damn, that's pretty good!

Good, but still fighting with OKC for third in the West this season. Of course 2019 could be a different story, tho.

I think they're easily better than OKC. They're in the tier with Houston (now that Houston has lost Ariza). Seriously, the Lakers won 35 games last year despite injuries to Ball and Ingram that cost them 55 games. That same team, with better health and more experience was probably due for 40 wins this year. Add Lebron and it's how many? 52? 55?

[FAH1223]

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[Kanyewest]

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So do the Wizards have a chance?

[80sballboy]

DA just said what we all thought might happen. The Lakers are "clearing their path to Boogie Cousins with their moves".

Boogie, Rondo, Lance, JaVale, LaVar, Lonzo....

[trast66]

The lakers signed Rondo. Certainly a curios roster to put around LeBron. With none of his teammates being able to shoot from beyond 12 feet.

[Dark Faze]

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So do the Wizards have a chance?

i think an MLE could get him, nobody with cap space is interested and we have a starting spot at center

watch us overpay for mike scott instead

[trast66]

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So do the Wizards have a chance?

i think an MLE could get him, nobody with cap space is interested and we have a starting spot at center

watch us overpay for mike scott instead

Scott has moved on to the Clippers to recreate the magic he and Gortat shared here.

[Dark Faze]

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So do the Wizards have a chance?

i think an MLE could get him, nobody with cap space is interested and we have a starting spot at center

watch us overpay for mike scott instead

Scott has moved on to the Clippers to recreate the magic he and Gortat shared here.

not sure how i missed this

wow

randle for the full MLE or Dwight + other guys for vet minish deals?

[LyricalRico]

The lakers signed Rondo. Certainly a curios roster to put around LeBron. With none of his teammates being able to shoot from beyond 12 feet.

Wow, and they renounced Randle to do it. They didn't do that for a backup, did they?

[MVPofDC]

Randle gone to the Pels on a 2 yr/$18 MM deal

[Dark Faze]

Looks like either Mirotic or Cousins are gone. There's no way New Orleans can afford all three.

[Dark Faze]

the number of teams that can afford boogie in a straight up acquisition just went to like, zero

Boogie for the MLE on a one year prove it deal? O_o_o_O?

[Error Afflalo]

Looks like either Mirotic or Cousins are gone. There's no way New Orleans can afford all three.

Where does Boogie go now? Money is tight around the league and a sign-and-trade doesn't seem feasible given their cap situation. It doesn't even make sense to give him a huge one-year deal and go into the tax since he's likely to sit for a decent chunk of the season anyway.

[Illmatic12]

The Pelicans just renounced Cousins (to do the Randle deal)


Looks like Boogie is on his way to LA. If the Lakers stretch Deng, they’ll have about $15m to offer Cousins on a 1yr deal to prove himself.