Official Trade Thread - Part XXXII

[pcbothwel]

Ben McLemore is worse than Burke. No thank you.

Assuming Collison goes elsewhere, Id send the Kings Burke and Thornton for Galloway if they dont want to simply waive him.
This saves the Kings money and lets them have Burke to play behind Lawson for the rest of the year once they trade Collison and Evans. I mean, they do have to field a team

[80sballboy]

Look, I'd rather have a veteran like a Lou Dub or Collison, but if we can't get them, I think McLemore would be an interesting alternative if you get could him for cheap.

In February, he's shooting 51.2% from 3-point in eight games.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2578213/ben-mclemore

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2578213/ben-mclemore

[J-Ves]

Burke, MclLemore, and Sato's advanced stats from this season


I see no reason to take on McLemore. He's a clear downgrade from Satoransky and is about as bad as Burke, but at least Burke has some PG skills.

[80sballboy]

Burke, MclLemore, and Sato's stats from this season


I see no reason to take on McLemore. He's a clear downgrade from Satoranksy and is about as bad as Burke, but at least Burke has some PG skills.

Again, he was horrific all season-until February. Downgrade from Sato maybe defensively. I don't think Sato gives you much on offense (right now) other than standing around. I've always been intrigued by his athleticism and ability to shoot. Maybe a new environment would at least make a serviceable backup.

[J-Ves]

Burke, MclLemore, and Sato's stats from this season


I see no reason to take on McLemore. He's a clear downgrade from Satoranksy and is about as bad as Burke, but at least Burke has some PG skills.

Again, he was horrific all season-until February. Downgrade from Sato maybe defensively. I don't think Sato gives you much on offense (right now) other than standing around. I've always been intrigued by his athleticism and ability to shoot. Maybe a new environment would at least make a serviceable backup.

I guess if he was a throw in I'd take him, but he has zero value as far as I'm concerned. His 8 games in February are way better than the rest of his season, I'm inclined to consider them a fluke.

[NatP4]

give me Skal, Ben Mclemore and Collison for Burke Nicholson and our 2018 1st

[nuposse04]

So with the plethora of guards and wing players SAC is about to saturate the market with... it should drive down the cost of other players, right? Should deron williams be attainable for Nicholson+filler+2 2nds?

[nuposse04]

give me Skal, Ben Mclemore and Collison for Burke Nicholson and our 2018 1st

No way they give Skal. The rest of it seems plausible. Not a huge collison fan. Still kind of want Deron Williams if his cost is less then a 1st.

[NatP4]

D Will is another interesting option, haven't heard that he is available, but another nice fit next to Satoransky

[queridiculo]

At the end of the day it's still a banana. If I'm going down I'm picking death by chocolate.

[J-Ves]

As I've said before, if trading our lotto protected '18 first gets Nicholson off the books AND gets us some useful win-now rentals, I'm all for it. I just want those rentals to actually be good and not a glorified scrub like Bogdanovic. The Kings seem like a good target.

[gambitx777]

Looks like these options aren't going to be there:

Read on Twitter

Kings GM Vlade Divac said that the Kings currently do not have any plans to release Langston Galloway or Tyreke Evans.
An earlier report by Adrian Wojnarowski of the Verticle stated that the Kings intended to waive Galloway, but Divac is apparently deviating from that standpoint, although he did leave the door open by saying "at least for now." Galloway is in an overly crowded backcourt in Sacramento, so if he does stay with the team, it's unlikely he'll have much value.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NBA/2423

Thats what he said about trading DC lol.

[sfam]

@PIF - I think what is interesting is that if we didn't sign Mahimni and Nicholson, we almost certainly could have landed Cousins as Sacramento was trying to do a salary dump. Would you want him as a one year rental to see how he works out with Wall?

The problem with Cousins is that he's like a banana split -- it's not good for you, but it tastes so good that you convince yourself it ought to be. Had he come here, he'd have been with us for 5 years.

Again... the talent is enormous, & I'm not even worried about his so-called personality problems. It's simple for me: the way Cousins plays doesn't win basketball games.

Above all, he doesn't play the same game he played at Kentucky. There he took 17.3 two point shots every 40 minutes & made 9.8 of them. IOW, he missed 7.5 two pt shots every 40 minutes. But... he also got 7.5 offensive rebounds every 40 minutes! Think about what that means.

For the Kings last year, Cousins took 20 two pt. shots every 40 minutes. He made 9.5 of them. IOW, he missed 10.5 two pt. shots every 40 minutes. Unfortunately, he only got 2.4 offensive boards every 40 minutes.

Those facts are related, btw. At Kentucky he played inside almost exclusively. I'd guess that a high number of those offensive boards at kentucky were off his own misses which he then put back in.

In the NBA, Cousins likes to have the ball in his hands in space, he likes to dribble & get off a jump shot. Result? a) that's a lower % shot, obviously, b) he's much less likely to get the ball back off a miss, & c) his turnovers are incredibly high for a Center -- more typical of a point guard.

For all these reasons, no, I wouldn't have wanted him. Above all, the proposed trade of Oubre, Gortat & two R1 picks would have made us a much worse team. & put us in a big financial fix as well.

I am sooooo glad Cousins is the Pelican's problem!

I don't care how good Cousins is. We're just a few years past a player bringing a gun to the locker room. I want no part of that. Give me adults, please! They can be young adults, but I really don't want massively talented head cases.

[mhd]

Lots of interested nuggets from Zach Lowe's latest article:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18727231/zach-lowe-jimmy-butler-boston-celtics-latest-nba-trade-deadline-talk

Basically rehashes his thoughts on a Lou Williams to the Wizards deal, but has some stuff about other trades around the league.

[deneem4]

Burke thronton ochefu for mirotic portis and 2018 1st

[gambitx777]

Nicholson and burke and a loto protected 2020 protected first and cash to the wolves for Pekovic.
We can buy out Pekovic who is probably going to retire any way. and get some instant cap relief.
Burke can help back up those young PGs and since they might move rubio burke might be a good idea to have and nicholson is still 36 and on a cheap money deal, 6 mill is not bad in this day in age. Eh might or might not work who knows.

[gambitx777]

Burke thronton ochefu for mirotic portis and 2018 1st

Come on man.
Just come on.

Yes a trade with
Mahinmi, our 2018 first for Rondo and portis makes sense. For a lot of reasons.
But they are not going to give up Portis and a pick for burke thornton and ochifu !

[payitforward]

Burke thronton ochefu for mirotic portis and 2018 1st

Come on man.
Just come on.

Yes a trade with
Mahinmi, our 2018 first for Rondo and portis makes sense. For a lot of reasons.
But they are not going to give up Portis and a pick for burke thornton and ochifu !

I assumed deneem had us giving the pick & just wrote it up wrong.

No one is giving anything at all for Burke, Thornton & Ochefu!

[AFM]

We are going to package our pick for Lou Williams. There's too much smoke for there to be no fire.

Ernie probably would have blown the pick anyway.

Ernie is so bad at scouting that he justifies his bad trades.

[80sballboy]

Burke thronton ochefu for mirotic portis and 2018 1st

Come on man.
Just come on.

Yes a trade with
Mahinmi, our 2018 first for Rondo and portis makes sense. For a lot of reasons.
But they are not going to give up Portis and a pick for burke thornton and ochifu !

I assumed deneem had us giving the pick & just wrote it up wrong.

No one is giving anything at all for Burke, Thornton & Ochefu!

Wait a minute, how about a protected 2017 second-round pick, McLellan, House, Ochefu, Burke, Thornton and rights to Juan Carlos Navarro for Portis, Rondo, Mirotic and 2017 and 2018 first-round picks.