Draft Thread Continued. 2011 part two...

[RickRoll_inDC]

You know your a bad team when 'filling the holes' means picking a post player, a wing player, and a guard. Seems to be a little more than a ''hole' to me.

Derrick Williams, Travie McCoy (Tyler Honeycutt), Ben Hansbrough. That's my 3.

[nate33]

I still say Derrick Williams is a power forward in this league. With that in mind, I'm not too excited with the idea of adding yet another PF with the #20 pick or the #33 pick. That would leave us with Williams, the #20, Booker and Blatche all to man the same position.

If we draft Williams, I'd much prefer a true SF or a PG with the ATL pick. Either that, or trade it for a future pick.

[Wizardspride]

jordan williams from UMD is in

He hasn't hired an agent....Yet.

[WizarDynasty]

i would prefer to draft players with the potential to be above average both offensively and defensively with a 1st round draft pick. AFter that who cares.

[verbal8]

I read the draft profile on Nikola Mirotic and he looks like he could be a good fit for the Wizards. If he is available with the ATL pick, I think he would be a non-brainer. He has some similarities with Lewis, but is more of a PF. Having a big with range and who can run the pick and role would be great for Wall. I also think he allows Booker to play at the other forward spot, because they would compliment each other well.

He certainly looks like he could help, but...

The biggest drawback from an NBA standpoint is in the likelihood a team will actually be able to bring him over. Mirotic was brought to Spain (from Montenegro, by a Real Madrid scout) when he was just 15 years old and signed a nine-year contract (which has since been redone) with unfavorable terms, as many young players in Europe often are. He still has two more seasons (after this) on his current deal, with a buyout clause that exceeds $2 million, which could be prohibitive for a NBA team.
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The uncertainty about him coming over is the only reason I think he might be available with the ATL pick. He seems to have some similarities with Rashard Lewis(although Lewis is more of a SF), so if he stays in Spain for a year it isn't a huge deal. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to trading the ATL pick for a future 1st or 2nd and future 1st.

[theboomking]

Anyone know the deadline to ddclarefor the draft?

[closg00]

Anyone know the deadline to ddclarefor the draft?

College players have until April 24 to formally submit the NBA paperwork. If they don't hire an agent, they have until May 8 to withdraw their name without losing his eligibility to go back to college hoops.

[Da HomeTeam]

I've said it here before. Thomas Robinson. I think he'll better than both Morris boys!

Of course I'm a homer. And he's from --------------->the District.

But still.

I like Faried, Perry Jones, and Barnes too.

oh & Tyler Honeycutt and Jordan Hamilton...that should cover all my bases.

[Ruzious]

For the folks who want to waste a pick on Jordan Williams, I think Rick Jackson is basically the same player (Jordan's a slightly better scorer, and Jackson is a better defender), and he's generally projected as a mid 2nd rounder.

[Ruzious]

Another reason to draft Kanter: Look at the dramatic improvement from Harrellson. Btw, Orton didn't exactly say the same about being able to practice against Cousins. When a teammate calls you the best of the best, that's impressive.

Kentucky recruit Enes Kanter, who was ruled ineligible before the start of the season for accepting impermissible benefits while playing for the Turkish club team Fenerbahce two years ago, has played a key part in the development of senior Josh Harrellson, who came into this season averaging 2.7 points and two rebounds per game in his UK career but is averaging 14.8 points and nine rebounds per game in this NCAA Tournament.

“Even if I’m not even going against (Kanter), just watching him do something (in practice), I’m trying to match what he does,” Harrellson said.

“Just doing that makes me more confident. Being able to stop him in practice and playing against him every day – playing against the best of the best – just makes me go into every game knowing I’m not going to play somebody as good as Enes.”

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1I6eE2LZM

[TGW]

If it's not Williams, it's Kanter second. The toughness and skills are too tempting to pass up.

[pancakes3]

For the folks who want to waste a pick on Jordan Williams, I think Rick Jackson is basically the same player (Jordan's a slightly better scorer, and Jackson is a better defender), and he's generally projected as a mid 2nd rounder.

well... basically the same except he's shorter, older, and not as good a scorer.

comparably, J-Will stacks up rather well with D-Will as a PF (2 inches taller, longer, better d). so JWill can't shoot the J as well and isn't the athlete that derrick is, but as a back-up PF does it matter?

[Black Eyed Sooz]

Another reason to draft Kanter: Look at the dramatic improvement from Harrellson. Btw, Orton didn't exactly say the same about being able to practice against Cousins. When a teammate calls you the best of the best, that's impressive.

Kentucky recruit Enes Kanter, who was ruled ineligible before the start of the season for accepting impermissible benefits while playing for the Turkish club team Fenerbahce two years ago, has played a key part in the development of senior Josh Harrellson, who came into this season averaging 2.7 points and two rebounds per game in his UK career but is averaging 14.8 points and nine rebounds per game in this NCAA Tournament.

Substitute "JaVale McGee" for "Josh Harrellson" and just think of the possibilities...

The mere presence of the Under-Kanter on your roster clearly quintuples your starting center's production, which would put JaVale at about 50 points and 40 rebounds a game next year

I have trouble believing all the draftniks who have Kanter dropping to 5 or below... Somebody in the top 3 is going to want a low post player, and with Sullinger out, it's going to be Kanter.

[Halcyon]

For the folks who want to waste a pick on Jordan Williams, I think Rick Jackson is basically the same player (Jordan's a slightly better scorer, and Jackson is a better defender), and he's generally projected as a mid 2nd rounder.

well... basically the same except he's shorter, older, and not as good a scorer.

comparably, J-Will stacks up rather well with D-Will as a PF (2 inches taller, longer, better d). so JWill can't shoot the J as well and isn't the athlete that derrick is, but as a back-up PF does it matter?

J-Will's ceiling is probably Big Baby. I don't mind drafting him in the 2nd round.

J-Will is probably around 6-8 btw, 6-10 is definitely inflated like crazy.

[Ruzious]

For the folks who want to waste a pick on Jordan Williams, I think Rick Jackson is basically the same player (Jordan's a slightly better scorer, and Jackson is a better defender), and he's generally projected as a mid 2nd rounder.

well... basically the same except he's shorter, older, and not as good a scorer.

comparably, J-Will stacks up rather well with D-Will as a PF (2 inches taller, longer, better d). so JWill can't shoot the J as well and isn't the athlete that derrick is, but as a back-up PF does it matter?

They are all about the same height, and I'm pretty sure Jordan has the least length of the 3. Please don't compare the Williams'. They're different types of players, and one is a lot better than the other.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Another reason to draft Kanter: Look at the dramatic improvement from Harrellson. Btw, Orton didn't exactly say the same about being able to practice against Cousins. When a teammate calls you the best of the best, that's impressive.

Kentucky recruit Enes Kanter, who was ruled ineligible before the start of the season for accepting impermissible benefits while playing for the Turkish club team Fenerbahce two years ago, has played a key part in the development of senior Josh Harrellson, who came into this season averaging 2.7 points and two rebounds per game in his UK career but is averaging 14.8 points and nine rebounds per game in this NCAA Tournament.

Substitute "JaVale McGee" for "Josh Harrellson" and just think of the possibilities...

The mere presence of the Under-Kanter on your roster clearly quintuples your starting center's production, which would put JaVale at about 50 points and 40 rebounds a game next year

I have trouble believing all the draftniks who have Kanter dropping to 5 or below... Somebody in the top 3 is going to want a low post player, and with Sullinger out, it's going to be Kanter.

Knowing Harrellson practiced against Cousins last year, and also Orton; just based on the tone coming from Harrellson, Kanter must be even better than either of those guys.

[Terpman]

If we come out of this draft with:

1. D. Williams
2. E. Kanter
3. H. Barnes

I'll be happy. P.Jones was also at the top of my list, but I just don't want to wait 3-4 years for him to develop. If he does at all...

[FAH1223]

KANTER, KANTER

[theboomking]

“Just doing that makes me more confident. Being able to stop him in practice and playing against him every day – playing against the best of the best – just makes me go into every game knowing I’m not going to play somebody as good as Enes. ”

Bold added for emphasis. I really think Kanter is the best choice, and is going to go higher that everyone thinks. I also really like the idea of a big, physical PF paired with McGee.

Knowing Harrellson practiced against Cousins last year, and also Orton; just based on the tone coming from Harrellson, Kanter must be even better than either of those guys.

Kanter is definitely a better prospect than Orton. Since we haven't seen Kanter play as much, and we haven't seen him measured out, it's hard for me to put him above Cousins. Cousins had the highest PER in the draft last year and an enourmous 9'5" standing reach. Harellson might be right, that Kanter is better than Cousins, but players often aren't very objective in these assessments, and it's also always possible that Harellson disliked Cousins because of personal issues. In any case, Kanter is probably my favorite for our pick.

(1)Kanter
(2-T)PJIII/Barnes/Williams

[REDardWIZskin]

We need another big that can stretch the floor, Lewis is declining and won't be here long, Blatche seems to be regressing to me and we need insurance if he is trade bait. My options are Harper, Thompkins, Benson, J. Johnson and Mirotic. Benson seems to be the most NBA ready player in terms of size and also the best defender avg 3.5 bpg which was second in the entire nation this season.

There are plenty of talented guards that will not be drafted or are drafted so late that we will be able to buy the pick from a team looking to save money. This list includes Charles Jenkins (my fav), Noris cole, Etwan Moore, B. Hansborough, Deibler, J. Holiday, D Lighty, Marshon Brooks, Malcom Lee. All of these guys have weaknesses but I'd be fine buying a pick after 40 to get one of them should they really impress in a workout.

My overall point is that in this draft 3rd guard is not a priority with the talent of 2nd rd guards and addition of crawford.
First 3 picks should be Post Big, SF, and Stretch Big. In no particular order but that's a direction I'd Like us to go in.