2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3...

DMVleGeND · Post #181 » by **DMVleGeND** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 am

dlts20 wrote:A Wolves fan said this and I would do it quick:

Take Williams. Trade Beasley + whoever to the Wizards for 6 and take Biyombo

tsvqt · Post #182 » by **tsvqt** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:40 am

dlts20 wrote:A Wolves fan said this and I would do it quick:

Take Williams. Trade Beasley + whoever to the Wizards for 6 and take Biyombo

+ 1

Geaux Wiz · Post #183 » by **Geaux Wiz** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:43 am

1) Kawhi Leonard
2) Kenneth Faried
3) Jodan Williams

Nothing to get to pumped for but it would be a pretty solid draft due to the circumstances

Post #184 » by **miller31time** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:43 am

Why do we want Beasley again? What has he done in the NBA besides be an inefficient offensive sieve and provide matador defense while adding in the off-court drama just for kicks?

TGW · Post #185 » by **TGW** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:45 am

No, no, no, no, HELL no to Beasley. He is a statpadding bum like Blatche. Keep him as far away as possible.

tsvqt · Post #186 » by **tsvqt** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:48 am

miller31time wrote:Why do we want Beasley again? What has he done in the NBA besides be an inefficient offensive sieve and provide matador defense while adding in the off-court drama just for kicks?

Bring him home and let's see how he does. He's still quite a talent, and who do you want @ #6 that would be better than Beasley next year? I see Wall, Beasley and McGee on lots of fast breaks and exciting plays. Sometimes it's not the team, or just a trade that changes a player, but the people you put him around. Wall would be great for Beasley IMHO.

J-Blaze · Post #187 » by **J-Blaze** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:48 am

how is beasley a bum, he could easliy be our leading scorer if he got traded here,

dlts20 · Post #188 » by **dlts20** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:50 am

Really? I didnt know you could average 19.2ppg in only 32mpg on 45% shooting in the WC with horrible PG play and be talked about how you guys are speaking of him. Bring him home to D.C. and give him a real PG like Wall. He would play well

TGW · Post #189 » by **TGW** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:53 am

There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

Dark Faze · Post #190 » by **Dark Faze** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:53 am

Taking Beasley without getting rid of Blatche? Kill me now please.

Geaux Wiz · Post #191 » by **Geaux Wiz** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:55 am

I'd love to have Beasley but I'd prefer just a Blatche-Beasley trade. 6th would be too much for a lunatic like Beasley unless we got a quality piece to go along with him which the T-Wolves have very few of

dlts20 · Post #192 » by **dlts20** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:56 am

TGW wrote:There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

well that could be true but again, people said the same thing about Z-Bo. You can grow up, espically with a good vetran coach.

no D in Hibachi · Post #193 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:57 am

Wow, fall two spots in the lottery and the whole board has gone delusional!! Beasley?! I'm going to bed.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #194 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:58 am

dlts20 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

well that could be true but again, people said the same thing about Z-Bo. You can grow up, espically with a good vetran coach.

where would we find a good veteran coach?

Post #195 » by **miller31time** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:00 am

tsvqt wrote:
miller31time wrote:Why do we want Beasley again? What has he done in the NBA besides be an inefficient offensive sieve and provide matador defense while adding in the off-court drama just for kicks?

Bring him home and let's see how he does. He's still quite a talent, and who do you want @ #6 that would be better than Beasley next year? I see Wall, Beasley and McGee on lots of fast breaks and exciting plays. Sometimes it's not the team, or just a trade that changes a player, but the people you put him around. Wall would be great for Beasley IMHO.

If the people that are supposed to change Beasley are Blatche, McGee and Young, then color me unimpressed.

In his absolute prime, Beasley is a poor man's Melo - a player who puts up the numbers but not the wins. He doesn't play defense and he requires a lot of the offense to run through him.

tsvqt · Post #196 » by **tsvqt** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:01 am

dlts20 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

well that could be true but again, people said the same thing about Z-Bo. You can grow up, espically with a good vetran coach.

Well I'm on the BEASLEY for the #6 pick kick!! Lock me in as a definite yes! I'm not ashamed to say it.

TGW · Post #197 » by **TGW** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:04 am

dlts20 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

well that could be true but again, people said the same thing about Z-Bo. You can grow up, espically with a good vetran coach.

It took about a decade for Zach Randolph to actually grow up a little. Zach is in year 12 of his career. Beasley just finished his 3rd. I'm not waiting 9 years for that nitwit to actually develop into a non-cancer.

Trade for Beasley = me becoming a Mavs fan.

spaceman_E · Post #198 » by **spaceman_E** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:07 am

No way to Leonard. No way to Beasley.

1. Irving - The temptation to land DWill and a top flight PG in Knight or Walker is trumped by Irving being that much better.
2. DWill - Minny will take him or a team will trade up for him.
3. Utah has a surplus of bigs and won't need Kanter. There is no SG for them to take and it's a little early for one of the PGs. We trade up and grab Kanter. Cleveland will not be taking a 2nd PG at 4 and while Toronto might, there would still be one guaranteed to be at 6 and Raptors probably go with a 3 or 5 anyways. If Minny is picking 5 they will not go PG. I'd give up Crawford or possibly s/t NY. They wouldn't want Blatche and I'm not sure #18/34 is enough.

spaceman_E · Post #199 » by **spaceman_E** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:09 am

dlts20 wrote:
TGW wrote:There's a reason Riley traded him for a 2nd rounder and a trade exception. It's because he's a BUM. He doesn't play defense, pass, or do anything else but score on a crappy team.

I reiterate...keep that scrub off my team.

well that could be true but again, people said the same thing about Z-Bo. You can grow up, espically with a good vetran coach.

ZBO is also 6-10 and rebounds. Beasley is garbage relative to him or the #6 pick.

Severn Hoos · Post #200 » by **Severn Hoos** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:13 am

1. OK, first rule for Ernie is: DON"T TRADE THE PICK BEFORE DRAFT DAY!!!! Please, no repeats of the Miller or Jamison trades. Not even that the trade itself was so bad (it was), but that it shut the door on that possibility that an unexpected player slips, or that another team gets desperate for a guy and overpays. So hold the pick at least until after the 5th selection is made on Draft Day.

2. Then, wait and see what happens. I agree with the posters who say that it's at least possible that Kanter is the slider from this year's draft. (Not likely if Irving goes #1 as the Cavs will probably take Kanter at #4, but again - that's why you hold on to the pick!)

3. Call the Cavs and see what it would take to swap #6 and #4, provided that Kanter is there at #4. I wouldn't give up the #18, but maybe there's something we could do - possible absorb a contract? Future protected 1st?

4. If Kemba and/or Knight is available, open the phone lines and see what a team in the back half of the Lottery will offer. Suns might be the most likely partner - to draft Nash's replacement. Use the pick in the tradeback to draft Singleton. (But what could they offer? Gortat? Lopez? Don't think they'd do that...)

5. Try to make a deal for a young starting-caliber (or potential) player. Wes Johnson is definitely a possibility I'd entertain (seriously, we'd take him in a heartbeat at #6 if he was in this draft), and I still believe enough in Evan Turner to consider him in that scenario as well. Batum has been mentioned (though upcoming contract could be an issue).

6. Swing for the fences with Biyombo. Why not? What have you got to lose?

7. Take the Aunt BEA approach - Best Euro Available. Not a fan of this approach.

8. Throw in the towel and spend the next 6 weeks watching Get Smart reruns.

(oh, and - if they don't do a trade up or down to get a pick in the 10-15 range, really hope that Singleton is still there at 18. He's really the guy I want to see on the Wiz. Enough that I'd personally prefer to see them reach and take Singleton at 6 rather than some of the scenarios above. But that would never happen.)