Webster re-ups for 4 years/22 million dollars

[LyricalRico]

Oh! and dont forget Webster's injury history and how he ended the season, think another team would have given him a 4-year $22 million-dollar deal?

Budinger's coming off an injury and he just got 3/16, which is essentially what Webster got once you factor in the partially guaranteed final year. And somebody already posted that recent activity shows the premium on shooting, so the Wizards had to act fast. Again, not seeing a problem with the signing.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Love it!

Very glad to have Martell back! Good contract IMO he earned it. He could of gone to a better team, or a team with more pt. This is a good move. Nothing but positive vibrations.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Tad overpaid, but hey this guy was great for us this past season on and off the court, real well-spoken leader. And like most have pointed out the fourth year partial guarantee along with Webster's age make this deal perfectly fine with me. But of course it took 8 pages of whining from the typical "anything EG does is wrong crowd" for some of the more sensible people to come around.

[closg00]

Oh! and dont forget Webster's injury history and how he ended the season, think another team would have given him a 4-year $22 million-dollar deal?

Budinger's coming off an injury and he just got 3/16, which is essentially what Webster got once you factor in the partially guaranteed final year. And somebody already posted that recent activity shows the premium on shooting, so the Wizards had to act fast. Again, not seeing a problem with the signing.

Glad that he's back, just thought the deal was 1-year too-long and a bit too-much $ given his injury history.

[truwizfan4evr]

Tad overpaid, but hey this guy was great for us this past season on and off the court, real well-spoken leader. And like most have pointed out the fourth year partial guarantee along with Webster's age make this deal perfectly fine with me. But of course it took 8 pages of whining from the typical "anything EG does is wrong crowd" for some of the more sensible people to come around.

You're so right about the people whining at everything Ernie does.

[montestewart]

Tad overpaid, but hey this guy was great for us this past season on and off the court, real well-spoken leader. And like most have pointed out the fourth year partial guarantee along with Webster's age make this deal perfectly fine with me. But of course it took 8 pages of whining from the typical "anything EG does is wrong crowd" for some of the more sensible people to come around.

You are absolutely right about everyone always whining about Ernie

[TheKingOfVa360]

Tad overpaid, but hey this guy was great for us this past season on and off the court, real well-spoken leader. And like most have pointed out the fourth year partial guarantee along with Webster's age make this deal perfectly fine with me. But of course it took 8 pages of whining from the typical "anything EG does is wrong crowd" for some of the more sensible people to come around.

You are right about the Ernie whining crowd

[dangermouse]

Its a little rich, but to be honest I think he deserves it if he can maintain his level of play.

Its good we managed to keep him, glad he chose to stay. When Porter becomes the starter, its going to be great to be able to bring in Webster off the bench at the 2/3 position.

Now i guess we shop the sh*t out of Ariza and some of Ernies kids for front court help.

[FAH1223]

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[nate33]

So far, the following contracts have been offered and/or agreed upon:

Iguadola: 4 years $56M
Evans: 4 years $44M
K.Martin: 4 years $28M
Redick: 4 years $27M
Budinger: 3 years $16M
Dunleavy: 2 years $6M

Looking at that list, I'd say Webster's deal is pretty much market value. Especially if you think of it as a 3 year deal for $16M (assuming the 4th year buyout is small).

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. Ariza will be gone in a year if he isn't traded sooner. It won't be the end of the world if Porter gets only 20 minutes a game in his rookie season.

[Deeptu McPullup]

Well, if ever there was any concern that we were going to wake up one fine morning and not be Wizards, we've laid that to rest now.

A bit more/longer than expected, but I'll wait until seeing the details on the non-guaranteed year before saying anything definitiveh. If it was at Ernie's insistence and amounts to being a team option with a $500K fee in the event of Martell being cut, it's more palatable, though I'd have rather spent this money on Collison.

[keynote]

Good summary, nate. I'd add Tony Allen (4 years, $20M) to that mix.

[truwizfan4evr]

So far, the following contracts have been offered and/or agreed upon:

Iguadola: 4 years $56M
Evans: 4 years $44M
K.Martin: 4 years $28M
Redick: 4 years $27M
Budinger: 3 years $16M
Dunleavy: 2 years $6M

Looking at that list, I'd say Webster's deal is pretty much market value. Especially if you think of it as a 3 year deal for $16M (assuming the 4th year buyout is small).

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. Ariza will be gone in a year if he isn't traded sooner. It won't be the end of the world if Porter gets only 20 minutes a game in his rookie season.

I agree with you very well said.

[payitforward]

As I've written a couple of times already, this was Martell's one chance to get a long-term contract for real $$, and I'm sure his people walked in the door w/ a ton of comparables and were able to point to interest from several other teams. So the deal is no surprise.

Is it a good deal for the Wizards? Well, the bottom line financial risk is no doubt covered, in that teams usually insure contracts. The impact on cap space isn't that big an issue either, as it's mostly some years down the line.

Are there players in the league who make less and are better? Sure. Tony Allen is a more productive player than Martell Webster for example. But there are also guys who aren't as good and make more.

From a Monumental Sports point of view -- as opposed to impact on wins and losses -- Martell is a great guy to have around. His obvious brains, his ability to talk, his willingness to lead. Those are special qualities.

I'm a numbers guy, but not every signing is exclusively about numbers. I love the guy, and I'm delighted to think of him as a Wizard long-term. I have no grief whatever w/ this deal -- welcome back, Martell!

[payitforward]

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. ....

Really! A log jam might mean you had two really good players at one position, neither of whom is a major injury risk. We don't have a log jam at any position!

We won 29 games last year. At our best, when we were healthy, we posted a .500 record. A log jam is the least of our worries. Improving the talent level of our roster is what we should be focusing on. I think we took a step in the draft, then a small step backwards w/ Maynor. Lets see what's next.

[MDStar]

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. ....

Really! A log jam might mean you had two really good players at one position, neither of whom is a major injury risk. We don't have a log jam at any position!

We won 29 games last year. At our best, when we were healthy, we posted a .500 record. A log jam is the least of our worries. Improving the talent level of our roster is what we should be focusing on. I think we took a step in the draft, then a small step backwards w/ Maynor. Lets see what's next.

I think that you misunderstood Nate.

[DCsOwn]

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. ....

Really! A log jam might mean you had two really good players at one position, neither of whom is a major injury risk. We don't have a log jam at any position!

We won 29 games last year. At our best, when we were healthy, we posted a .500 record. A log jam is the least of our worries. Improving the talent level of our roster is what we should be focusing on. I think we took a step in the draft, then a small step backwards w/ Maynor. Lets see what's next.

To be fair, we were quite a bit better than .500 when we were "healthy". Remember, we finished the season on a six game losing streak with John playing but we were trotting like seven players out there each of those games with no Nene, Beal, Webster, Okafor, Ariza etc. Those games don't count in my book. When Wall, Beal and Nene played together I think we were something like seven or eight games above .500, and a number of those losses occurred when John was working himself back into a groove. I do agree with your broader point though, I'm not sure we have much of a logjam anywhere, especially if Ariza's dealt. We have a number of PFs for example, but we don't know that any of them are deserving of extensive rotation minutes aside from Okafor/Nene (whichever is nominally playing the four). Every other position is adequately stocked IMO. Wall, Maynor at the one, Beal and Rice jr at the two, Webster, Porter and Singleton at the three, and Okafor and Nene at the five.

[Dat2U]

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing about the log jam at SF. Ariza will be gone in a year if he isn't traded sooner. It won't be the end of the world if Porter gets only 20 minutes a game in his rookie season.

I'm struggling to see how Porter gets 20 minutes a game unless Ariza is dealt before the season starts. I'm also frustrated by the log jam at SF because of the quality of backups behind Wall, Nene & Okafor still leave a lot to be desired and Ernie has already blown his wad by the 2nd day of free agency.

[Jay81]

could we trade Ariza and out first next year for either Tristen Thompson or Derrick Williams?

[verbal8]

could we trade Ariza and out first next year for either Tristen Thompson

Presumably yes since the Cavs are likely to have cap space, or they could throw in a filler like Chris Quinn. However I doubt the Cavs give up Thompson, so soon and so cheaply.

or Derrick Williams?

The Wizards could but why?

I really can't justify adding any significant incentive to a straight up deal. I actually think a deal straight up would be good for both teams. It balances the Wizards roster better, but put Williams in a spot to primarily get his minutes at PF. For the wolves they add a good wing defender, which would be helpful with the poor defenders at SG and PF.