Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

Nivek · Post #181 » by **Nivek** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:42 pm

Tristan Thompson looks reasonably promising. Last season, he had a PPA of 126 -- so, significantly better than average. Good rebounder, not bad efficiency on offense. Comparable players include: LaPhonso Ellis, Brian Grant, Kwame Brown (at age 21, his best season), Jerome Whitehead, Terry Tyler, Jason Thompson. A couple other youngsters show up too: Al Horford (21) and Chris Bosh (19).

fishercob · Post #182 » by **fishercob** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:50 pm

Does a trade exist that could please both Ernie Grunfeld and payitforward?

Wizards trade: Trevor Ariza, Jan Vesely
Wizards receiver: Amir Johnson, Landry Fields!!!

Toronto does this to dump Fields' final year; they'd have significant cap room this summer.**

The Wiz would get much needed frontcourt help and open time for Porter -- while also having Fields as "insurance" as an athletic defender on the wing. This would blow our cap room this summer, but effectively it is already blown since we are going to re-sign Gortat. I am sure Ernie is partial to FIelds given their Stanford connections.

**If Toronto was so inclined, they could send Ariza to Minnesota for Derrick Williams

queridiculo · Post #183 » by **queridiculo** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:25 pm

Anybody catch the headline about a Shumpert Faried trade?

Would be nice if Washington could get in on the action.

Post #184 » by **nate33** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:26 pm

fishercob wrote:Does a trade exist that could please both Ernie Grunfeld and payitforward?

Wizards trade: Trevor Ariza, Jan Vesely
Wizards receiver: Amir Johnson, Landry Fields!!!

Toronto does this to dump Fields' final year; they'd have significant cap room this summer.**

The Wiz would get much needed frontcourt help and open time for Porter -- while also having Fields as "insurance" as an athletic defender on the wing. This would blow our cap room this summer, but effectively it is already blown since we are going to re-sign Gortat. I am sure Ernie is partial to FIelds given their Stanford connections.

**If Toronto was so inclined, they could send Ariza to Minnesota for Derrick Williams

That would be a fabulous trade. At just 26, Amir is young enough to grow with this team for the next several years. He would really shore up our front line since he can play PF and C. A Gortat, Nene, Johnson triumvirate at PF and C would be rock solid. Our wing position would suffer a bit until Porter got up to speed, but it would still be worth it.

I don't see Toronto going for it though.

Post #185 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:13 pm

^ Yeah, I posted something similar when Nene was out last week and got a similar response - nice but TOR likely wouldn't go for it. Maybe get a third team involved that would give up something of value in return for Fields to sweeten it for the Raptors?

Ah, but then PIF wouldn't be on board.

payitforward · Post #186 » by **payitforward** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:21 am

LyricalRico wrote:^ Yeah, I posted something similar when Nene was out last week and got a similar response - nice but TOR likely wouldn't go for it. Maybe get a third team involved that would give up something of value in return for Fields to sweeten it for the Raptors?

Ah, but then PIF wouldn't be on board.

Ah yes I would -- love Amir Johnson. As to Fields, I liked him off his rookie season and thought his 2d season would be a fluke. Last year he played injured much of the year, but he's not up to much this year either. Looks like I was wrong about Landry Fields.

Even a triple crown winner strikes out every once in a while -- to mix the sports!

payitforward · Post #187 » by **payitforward** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:26 am

queridiculo wrote:Anybody catch the headline about a Shumpert Faried trade?

Would be nice if Washington could get in on the action.

What an amazing idea, huh? Final proof that the new Denver FO is a bunch of absolute idiots.

I'd *love* to have Faried! Anyone in his right mind would. Could we trade them Webster for him? I'd hate to lose Martell -- not that he's a great player or anything, but he is a heck of a guy. But for Faried... not much I wouldn't give up. Now there's a guy worth trading our next year pick for... except that's gone, isn't it?

Why would Denver want Shumpert I wonder? (Edit -- well that's a little unfair; he looks pretty good this year. But... he's no Faried)

dlts20 · Post #188 » by **dlts20** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:33 am

im loving loving loving Wall right now. This is how I want him to play. I dont care if he turns it over or misses every shot. As long as he stays aggressive, we will be a much better team and I dont think he will miss as much if he plays like this. SA is great but if he plays like this against any other team then we will be very good. Look how everyone spirit lifts up and we are less stagnant

queridiculo · Post #189 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:42 am

The idea of paying McGee $44 million only to trade Faried seems completely asinine.

Then again, that's the same team that chose not to extend George Karl only to replace him with a complete novice that's looking to run a system that's absolutely not suitable for the roster he inherited...

I'd take both Karl, and Faried in a heartbeat.

Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Post #190 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:10 am

queridiculo wrote:Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Actually Porter for Faried might not be a bad start, depending on the rest of the package (no picks coming from the Wiz). To the checker!

bjack18 · Post #191 » by **bjack18** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:46 am

IF we end up with a top three pick thus guaranteeing us, in order of my personal preference, Parker, Randle or Wiggins would you guys be down with trading Wall to Sacramento for their pick which would be in the 4-6 range and draft either Smart, who by reading his scouting report is a JWall clone or Exum who is being compared to MCW??

Knighthonor · Post #192 » by **Knighthonor** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:26 am

bjack18 wrote:IF we end up with a top three pick thus guaranteeing us, in order of my personal preference, Parker, Randle or Wiggins would you guys be down with trading Wall to Sacramento for their pick which would be in the 4-6 range and draft either Smart, who by reading his scouting report is a JWall clone or Exum who is being compared to MCW??

wouldnt that mess up the chemistry of the team?

also are we sure Smart is better than Wall?

Error Afflalo · Post #193 » by **Error Afflalo** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:55 am

bjack18 wrote:IF we end up with a top three pick thus guaranteeing us, in order of my personal preference, Parker, Randle or Wiggins would you guys be down with trading Wall to Sacramento for their pick which would be in the 4-6 range and draft either Smart, who by reading his scouting report is a JWall clone or Exum who is being compared to MCW??

I wouldn't. Draft Randle, offer Gortat a two year deal (which he'll decline), and go into 2016 free agency with max cap room and try to bring you know who home.

See how easy that is?

WizardsWorld · Post #194 » by **WizardsWorld** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:10 pm

bjack18 wrote:IF we end up with a top three pick thus guaranteeing us, in order of my personal preference, Parker, Randle or Wiggins would you guys be down with trading Wall to Sacramento for their pick which would be in the 4-6 range and draft either Smart, who by reading his scouting report is a JWall clone or Exum who is being compared to MCW??

No.

tontoz · Post #195 » by **tontoz** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:23 pm

queridiculo wrote:The idea of paying McGee $44 million only to trade Faried seems completely asinine.
Then again, that's the same team that chose not to extend George Karl only to replace him with a complete novice that's looking to run a system that's absolutely not suitable for the roster he inherited...

I'd take both Karl, and Faried in a heartbeat.

Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Two different GMs but both dumb moves. I don't understand why they are shopping Faried. And i definitely didn't understand why they gave McGee such a big deal.

Nivek · Post #196 » by **Nivek** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:35 pm

tontoz wrote:
queridiculo wrote:The idea of paying McGee $44 million only to trade Faried seems completely asinine.
Then again, that's the same team that chose not to extend George Karl only to replace him with a complete novice that's looking to run a system that's absolutely not suitable for the roster he inherited...

I'd take both Karl, and Faried in a heartbeat.

Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Two different GMs but both dumb moves. I don't understand why they are shopping Faried. And i definitely didn't understand why they gave McGee such a big deal.

In fairness to the Denver GM (who was hired from the Wizards organization this offseason), Wojo tweeted that the "shopping" of Faried amounted to the Knicks calling and offering a Shumpert for Faried trade, which Denver rejected.

Jay81 · Post #197 » by **Jay81** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:12 pm

Nivek wrote:
tontoz wrote:
queridiculo wrote:The idea of paying McGee $44 million only to trade Faried seems completely asinine.
Then again, that's the same team that chose not to extend George Karl only to replace him with a complete novice that's looking to run a system that's absolutely not suitable for the roster he inherited...

I'd take both Karl, and Faried in a heartbeat.

Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Two different GMs but both dumb moves. I don't understand why they are shopping Faried. And i definitely didn't understand why they gave McGee such a big deal.

In fairness to the Denver GM (who was hired from the Wizards organization this offseason), Wojo tweeted that the "shopping" of Faried amounted to the Knicks calling and offering a Shumpert for Faried trade, which Denver rejected.

maybe thats the best team to trade with. A GM that Ernie mentored

payitforward · Post #198 » by **payitforward** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:24 pm

Nivek wrote:
tontoz wrote:
queridiculo wrote:The idea of paying McGee $44 million only to trade Faried seems completely asinine.
Then again, that's the same team that chose not to extend George Karl only to replace him with a complete novice that's looking to run a system that's absolutely not suitable for the roster he inherited...

I'd take both Karl, and Faried in a heartbeat.

Knowing Grunfeld though, we'd get fleeced out of Porter along with a future draft consideration.

Two different GMs but both dumb moves. I don't understand why they are shopping Faried. And i definitely didn't understand why they gave McGee such a big deal.

In fairness to the Denver GM (who was hired from the Wizards organization this offseason), Wojo tweeted that the "shopping" of Faried amounted to the Knicks calling and offering a Shumpert for Faried trade, which Denver rejected.

Yes, that's fair -- but has he made a good move so far?

nuposse04 · Post #199 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:54 pm

Not sure what is going on in memphis but I wonder if they'd go for:

Gortat+Porter+Jan+'14 2nd for Gasol+Ed Davis

Post #200 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:16 am

nuposse04 wrote:Not sure what is going on in memphis but I wonder if they'd go for:

Gortat+Porter+Jan+'14 2nd for Gasol+Ed Davis

Nah, too much to give up for Gasol IMO. I'd rather just keep Porter and re-sign Gortat. Maybe if you made it a 3-way where another team gave us something else of value.