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Post#181 » by NatP4 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:19 pm

Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.
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Post#182 » by nate33 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:44 pm

NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

Ayayi looks interesting.

I just don't think Winston can guard NBA caliber point guards. I don't see him being anything more than a journeyman at the NBA level - a guy you add off of waivers if you've had a bunch of injuries.
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Post#183 » by Ruzious » Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:17 pm

NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

Or get a lot stronger. His 3 point shooting has been tremendous - up to 42.4%, but he's only making about 47% of his 2's, and he doesn't draw foul shots. I don't think he's got the ball-handling skills you want in a 3, so he's gotta get stronger and tougher. I think he has the frame to add weight.
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Post#184 » by smoothSeph » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:52 pm

NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

So excited we got Ayayi. Between Deni, Todd and Ayayi we have 3 interesting 21u prospects. Not often we have this kind of young talent.
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Post#185 » by Ruzious » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:05 pm

I think Ayayi has to be more aggressive and be more of a take charge player if he's going to get promoted. Good numbers for assists, rebounds, and shooting percentages, but he's got to do more - show some shot creation ability, take more 3's, and also be more aggressive on defense - going for steals. Do 2 of those things, and he should be in the NBA. With some relaxed roster rules, now's the time a lot of G Leaguers should be getting a chance in the NBA.
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Post#186 » by NatP4 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:15 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

Or get a lot stronger. His 3 point shooting has been tremendous - up to 42.4%, but he's only making about 47% of his 2's, and he doesn't draw foul shots. I don't think he's got the ball-handling skills you want in a 3, so he's gotta get stronger and tougher. I think he has the frame to add weight.


What’s more likely? He develops perimeter skills? Or he develops the help defense/rebounding big man skills? I know you liked him during the draft process.

He reminds me of the guy we had from Florida a few years ago. Devin Robinson or something? I’m just not sure I see him developing one way or the other. Destined to be an non-impactful tweener like Kuzma and Rui.
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Post#187 » by Ruzious » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:02 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

Or get a lot stronger. His 3 point shooting has been tremendous - up to 42.4%, but he's only making about 47% of his 2's, and he doesn't draw foul shots. I don't think he's got the ball-handling skills you want in a 3, so he's gotta get stronger and tougher. I think he has the frame to add weight.


What’s more likely? He develops perimeter skills? Or he develops the help defense/rebounding big man skills? I know you liked him during the draft process.

He reminds me of the guy we had from Florida a few years ago. Devin Robinson or something? I’m just not sure I see him developing one way or the other. Destined to be an non-impactful tweener like Kuzma and Rui.

I wish he was a year younger - so he'd be more likely to be able to add some muscle. Still, I think stretch 4 is his ultimate position. We'll have to see what he improves at. I liked Todd as a mid 2nd rounder - didn't think he'd go as high as he did. Of players like him, I liked Thor better, but he hasn't done much either, so far. When you're an athletic 6'9 plus and can shoot 3's, there's always going to be some hope for Todd.
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Post#188 » by payitforward » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:25 pm

nate33 wrote:...I just don't think Winston can guard NBA caliber point guards. I don't see him being anything more than a journeyman at the NBA level - a guy you add off of waivers if you've had a bunch of injuries.

By definition, about half of the players in the NBA are below average. For that reason, "journeyman" is a description that fits a whole lot of players. There's a big difference between that & the kind of marginal player you project as his ceiling.

Of course... you may be right! :) But, to this point, I don't see a whole lot of evidence for your view. Actually, to put it slightly differently, & more accurately, I do see at least some evidence pointing in the other direction.

Most importantly, he shot the 3 extremely well last year. & he's an excellent FT shooter. It wouldn't be a shock to see him carve out a career in the league as a backup PG.

Not suggesting he's important to us, someone who should be in our specific plans. No. Maybe that's all you meant anyway.

Ayayi is a different matter.
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Post#189 » by payitforward » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:29 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Or get a lot stronger. His 3 point shooting has been tremendous - up to 42.4%, but he's only making about 47% of his 2's, and he doesn't draw foul shots. I don't think he's got the ball-handling skills you want in a 3, so he's gotta get stronger and tougher. I think he has the frame to add weight.


What’s more likely? He develops perimeter skills? Or he develops the help defense/rebounding big man skills? I know you liked him during the draft process.

He reminds me of the guy we had from Florida a few years ago. Devin Robinson or something? I’m just not sure I see him developing one way or the other. Destined to be an non-impactful tweener like Kuzma and Rui.

I wish he was a year younger - so he'd be more likely to be able to add some muscle. Still, I think stretch 4 is his ultimate position. We'll have to see what he improves at. I liked Todd as a mid 2nd rounder - didn't think he'd go as high as he did. Of players like him, I liked Thor better, but he hasn't done much either, so far. When you're an athletic 6'9 plus and can shoot 3's, there's always going to be some hope for Todd.

I think this take is just about perfect. I thought it was a big reach to take Todd at #31. Since Holiday isn't any good (& won't be worth extending), we'd have been a whole lot better off using that #22 pick. Too late to worry about it, however.
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Post#190 » by NatP4 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:04 am

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NatP4 wrote:Todd is gonna have to make the switch to playing the wing if he’s going to be a useful NBA player. He simply doesn’t have the defensive IQ to play the 4.

I’m not sure why there isn’t more excitement for what Ayayi is doing in the g-league. Efficiently stuffing the stat sheet and playing solid defense. Has good NBA role player written all over him. There’s actual upside to be a rotational piece that can play the 1 or 2.

Winston has had a slow start but he’s posting 23&7 per36 on decent efficiency. He was really good last year in the G. There’s a solid floor as a good backup PG that can play on or off the ball.

So excited we got Ayayi. Between Deni, Todd and Ayayi we have 3 interesting 21u prospects. Not often we have this kind of young talent.


I really like a core of Deni, Ayayi, Todd, Rui, Gafford, and Kispert. Maybe Bryant gets back to his old self and we re-sign him at a discount? I think they lack a true difference making initiator, Ivey or Brown would both be great fits.

Ivey? Winston
Kispert Ayayi
Brown? Avdija
Rui Todd
Gafford Bryant

The future outlook of the roster would depend a lot on the development of one or both of Rui/Todd, which I’m not optimistic about.
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Post#191 » by NatP4 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:25 am

Has Winston given us any reason to doubt that he can be a nice round 2 steal based on his production so far?

He’s played in 27 total games (741 minutes) and produced 18.2 points 6.6 assists 3.4 rebounds 1 steal on 57.1% TS. If you check the on/off numbers, he’s been consistently good (don’t look at Todd’s on/off, it’s absolutely horrendous).
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Post#192 » by NatP4 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:41 am

Winston and Ayayi both look NBA guards in this video:

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Post#193 » by 9 and 20 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:58 am

Love that video. My takeaway - the legend of Isaac Bonga continues to grow. What a beast. 6'9" with handles.
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Post#194 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:31 pm

Jordan Schakel gets a callup? He would not have been my choice.
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Post#195 » by gambitx777 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:07 pm

Ruzious wrote:Jordan Schakel gets a callup? He would not have been my choice.
Well it's a 10 day, and with Winston, Ayayi and Todd two of the three being the best players on the gogos. Bringing up Jordan for a look doesn't hurt. Especially with Rui and Bryant coming back gill will be expendable and sucking up a spot on the bench. So, bring up a sharp shooter to take a look at and if he does well cut gill promote either Winston or Ayayi and sign this kid to a Two way.

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Post#197 » by NatP4 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:26 pm

Dang, Goodwin is awful.
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Post#198 » by 9 and 20 » Sun Jan 9, 2022 4:53 pm

Kyree Walker has had a couple of good games in a row. 30 points yesterday and then this performance before that -

Was a blue chip prospect in high school, then chose some kind post high school training program rather than going to college, the g-league, or overseas.

Do the Wiz have something here? On offense, has kind of a bowling ball type of approach. Looking like Ledell Eackles. Not sure what his defensive potential might be, though.
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Post#199 » by badinage » Sun Jan 9, 2022 4:57 pm

9 and 20 wrote:Kyree Walker has had a couple of good games in a row. 30 points yesterday and then this performance before that -

Was a blue chip prospect in high school, then chose some kind post high school training program rather than going to college, the g-league, or overseas.

Do the Wiz have something here? On offense, has kind of a bowling ball type of approach. Looking like Ledell Eackles. Not sure what his defensive potential might be, though.


Intriguing for sure!

And yeah — I see Eackles as well. Good call. Also a little Marcus Smart.

The way he finishes through contact — that’s not something you see too often with a player under 20. And he’s got a J. And he seems to have enough quicks to create separation.

Please please please let him be good — legit good; a piece to build with …
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Post#200 » by NatP4 » Sun Jan 9, 2022 5:46 pm

Walker was not a blue chip prospect coming out of high school. The guy was a 3 star recruit ranked outside the top 200. He has been horrible for the go-go. Posted a 51.9% TS through the first 12 games. He shot 17% from 3 despite taking 6 per 36 minutes. His assist to turnover ratio is 1/3. He’s one of those players that makes your eyes bleed when watching. Not a NBA caliber athlete by any stretch, also one of the most selfish players you will ever see.

We have a really good young core piece in the g-league and its Joel Ayayi. He is having an outstanding rookie season. 13.4 points 6.9 rebounds 7.8 assists on 65% TS. The wizards should call him up at the deadline and play him 20+ minutes a night after we move on from Holiday and Neto and finally punt on this season.

In the first 2 “regular season” games, Ayayi leads the team with a ridiculous 39.2 on/off differential.

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