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Re: Corey Kispert, Wizards Sniper. 

Post#181 » by bsilver » Tue Feb 8, 2022 9:44 pm

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bsilver wrote:I like his game, but the 3 point shooting (31.7%) is worrisome. Looks like there's not enough arc. That, along with a fairly low release point makes it harder to get the shot off. Hopefully he can make some adjustments.

Kispert shot 20.5% from 3-point range over his first 20 games. You could tell that he was rushing things and hadn't found his comfort zone.

Since then, he has shot 36.7% from 3 (over the next 26 games).

And 30.5% over the last 10 games. He still doesn’t look comfortable to me. But part of that is that the Wizards in general don’t get good looks, struggling to get off uncontested shots. I still think he could use more arc on his 3 point shots.
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Post#182 » by payitforward » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:13 pm

nate33 wrote:He still looks like a very good pick relative to the rest of the draft. RAPTOR and WAR (which incorporates minutes played) both rank him as the 9th best rookie:

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Herbert Jones was a 2nd round steal, and Austin Reeves is an undrafted walk-on (and probably a short term fluke on a weird LA team). Outside of those two, the only guys outplaying Kispert are guys that were picked ahead of him, and Sengun, who was picked right after him.

Kispert is outplaying a lot of guys picked ahead of him including:

Cunningham
Green
Suggs
Giddey
Kuminga
Z.Williams
Bouknight
Primo
Moody

Kispert is a big positive, but that list strikes me as pretty ridiculous -- more or less what can be expected of the mystery meat chopper.

Davlion Mitchell is ranked pretty high, for example, & he has been absolutely terrible. He's shooting a .474 TS%, he's low on assists, low on steals, low on rebounds. He doesn't turn the ball over much, but that's all you can say for him to this point.

Suggs has been terrible, while Giddey has been terrific.

That said, despite the order being all wrong overall, somehow they have Kispert in just about the right place. Of all rookies who've played over 300 minutes (just to get some meaning into sample size), he's about the 9th best. &, yes, he is outplaying many guys taken above him, you are right.

The mystery meat boys don't even list the guy who's looking just about the best, btw: Aaron Wiggins. His TS% is at .585, & he's doing pretty much everything else well too. A steal.

As to Herb Jones, he's definitely playing well -- except he's averaging only 5 boards per 40 minutes.
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Post#183 » by payitforward » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:15 pm

To my surprise, looking at Wizards' player minutes, barring injury Corey Kispert is a lock to wind up 4th on the team in minutes this season.

I don't think anyone anticipated that -- I sure didn't. Speaks well for the young man, I'd say.
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Post#184 » by FAH1223 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 pm

payitforward wrote:To my surprise, looking at Wizards' player minutes, barring injury Corey Kispert is a lock to wind up 4th on the team in minutes this season.

I don't think anyone anticipated that -- I sure didn't. Speaks well for the young man, I'd say.


Wes was singing his praises on the radio this morning. Acknowledging that while he may be limited athletically or size wise he’s making the effort to play defensively.
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Re: Corey Kispert, Wizards Sniper. 

Post#185 » by NatP4 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:22 pm

Last 20 games per 36:

13.6 points 4.7 rebounds 1.6 assists 1.3 turnovers 0.6 steals 0.6 blocks in 58.4% TS. Has also led the team in on/off by a mile.

2nd on the roster to only Harrell in on/off differential on the season.

Kispert is already a good NBA player in his rookie season.
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Post#186 » by nate33 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:35 pm

NatP4 wrote:2nd on the roster to only Harrell in on/off differential on the season.

3rd.

Avdija is also ahead of him.
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Post#187 » by NatP4 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:45 pm

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NatP4 wrote:2nd on the roster to only Harrell in on/off differential on the season.

3rd.

Avdija is also ahead of him.


I see Avdija just below him

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612764/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_NET_RATING&dir=1
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Post#188 » by nate33 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:01 pm

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NatP4 wrote:2nd on the roster to only Harrell in on/off differential on the season.

3rd.

Avdija is also ahead of him.


I see Avdija just below him

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612764/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_NET_RATING&dir=1


Weird.

BBall reference has Avdija at +8.4 and Kispert at +6.5

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WAS/2022.html
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Re: Corey Kispert, Wizards Sniper. 

Post#189 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:55 am

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:3rd.

Avdija is also ahead of him.


I see Avdija just below him

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612764/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_NET_RATING&dir=1


Weird.

BBall reference has Avdija at +8.4 and Kispert at +6.5

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WAS/2022.html


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Post#191 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:54 am

Chris Singleton and Jarvis Hayes are two examples of minutes played a rookie not indicating a successful NBA career.

The Wizards time investment didn’t pay off with either player.

I think Avidja and Kispert each will fare better long term as solid role players.
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Post#193 » by NatP4 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:02 am

Looking like a really good pick.
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Post#194 » by FAH1223 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:22 am

NatP4 wrote:Looking like a really good pick.


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Post#195 » by Dark Faze » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:00 pm

Some guys would wait till year 3 to start trying some of what he's doing at the moment.
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Post#196 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:17 pm

NatP4 wrote:Looking like a really good pick.


You can’t say that here, too many folks wedded to the idea that Sheppard can’t draft. Too many narratives would have a lot of cracks if Kispert, Deni, and Rui pan out.
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Post#197 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:24 pm

Over the last 20 games, Kispert is averaging 12 points (13.7 per 36) on a TS% of .643. His on/off over that stretch is just -0.5 because he is a starter now and going up against starting-caliber defenders and a scouting report. But that's still quite impressive for a rookie to legit hold his own as a starter.

In the last 10 games, he is averaging 13.2 points (14.8 per 36) on a TS% of .706. :o
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Post#198 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:03 pm

Interesting to note that Trey Murphy (the 3 point shooter picked 17th) also had a big game last night. He'd hardly done anything all season until March 11 - when he exploded for 32 points. Tbh, Kispert went where I thought he would, and I thought Murphy would slide till late 1st. Murphy has a higher upside (advantage in length and athleticism), but Kispert's a more reliable/consistent player.
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Post#199 » by tontoz » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:10 am

Watching the warriors game now. I like his quick strike ability and off ball movement. Guys like Klay and Patty Mills have a lot of value because they can be productive without holding the ball.

Unlike Bertans he is actually a threat to take the ball to the basket. Bertans would shoot not matter what so defenders could close out hard without worrying about a drive.

Decent size too.
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Post#200 » by NatP4 » Sat Apr 9, 2022 4:50 am

How do we feel about this?

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=thompkl01&p1yrfrom=2013&player_id2=kispeco01&p2yrfrom=2022

At age 22, Kispert has been more efficient than Thompson was, but has taken almost 5 less shots per 36 minutes. Numbers are pretty similar outside of that.

Just need the guy to shoot more.

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