Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1801 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:21 am

DHoward also wants to join LA

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1802 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:23 am

Maybe they can get Carmello too!!

payitforward · Post #1803 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:27 am

What are you all so upset about? That we didn't trade Porter for Cousins -- as some of you suggested?

We couldn't have signed Cousins -- not even for $5.3m. We are over the luxury tax; we have to get under the tax. IOW, the problem isn't what Ernie hasn't done so far this off-season. It's what he did in past off seasons & in trades.

I doubt we'll even wind up with Alex Len -- we seem to be offering him the minimum, & someone will up that ante.

keynote · Post #1804 » by **keynote** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:32 am

jangles86 wrote:Wall and Beal have attracted ZERO free agent talent to this team.

It’s clearly time we split this underachieving duo up in my opinion.

Not sure if you're serious. But I'm starting to agree.

Like it or not, one of the responsibilities of a star in today's NBA is to recruit other players. When Wall was younger, he had a rep for making players money. But now, it doesn't appear that Wall or Beal have enough stroke to recruit their buddies. Perhaps Wall's wallet-watching has earned him a rep; I dunno. But either Wall tried to recruit Boogie but couldn't convince EG/Ted to sign off, or he tried to recruit Boogie and failed, or he didn't try at all. None of those scenarios make me feel great about Wall's future in DC.

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Eli Babak · Post #1805 » by **Eli Babak** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:45 am

I'm speechless. I woke up, checked my phone and Jesus Christ - what is going on?!

I can't wait this Warriors team to break up. Hopefully it happens next year when Durant goes somewhere else and Cousins wants $$$. I know they have drafted well etc. and I respect that but come on, this is ridiculous.

Earth2Ted · Post #1806 » by **Earth2Ted** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:48 am

keynote wrote:
jangles86 wrote:Wall and Beal have attracted ZERO free agent talent to this team.

It’s clearly time we split this underachieving duo up in my opinion.
Not sure if you're serious. But I'm starting to agree.

Like it or not, one of the responsibilities of a star in today's NBA is to recruit other players. When Wall was younger, he had a rep for making players money. But now, it doesn't appear that Wall or Beal have enough stroke to recruit their buddies. Perhaps Wall's wallet-watching has earned him a rep; I dunno. But either Wall tried to recruit Boogie but couldn't convince EG/Ted to sign off, or he tried to recruit Boogie and failed, or he didn't try at all. None of those scenarios make me feel great about Wall's future in DC.

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Agreed as well. As bad a GM as EG may be, guys should be interested in coming here to play with John because of his passing ability- especially a friend of his like Cousins who really liked the city of DC at least for a while.

The fact that Wall seems to have - if anything- a negative gravitational pull, brings back that controversial quote from JJ Barea last year when he said basically that I don't like John Wall but you know what, his teammates don't even like him either.

Not good.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1807 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:55 am

Earth2Ted wrote:
keynote wrote:
jangles86 wrote:Wall and Beal have attracted ZERO free agent talent to this team.

It’s clearly time we split this underachieving duo up in my opinion.
Not sure if you're serious. But I'm starting to agree.

Like it or not, one of the responsibilities of a star in today's NBA is to recruit other players. When Wall was younger, he had a rep for making players money. But now, it doesn't appear that Wall or Beal have enough stroke to recruit their buddies. Perhaps Wall's wallet-watching has earned him a rep; I dunno. But either Wall tried to recruit Boogie but couldn't convince EG/Ted to sign off, or he tried to recruit Boogie and failed, or he didn't try at all. None of those scenarios make me feel great about Wall's future in DC.

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Agreed as well. As bad a GM as EG may be, guys should be interested in coming here to play with John because of his passing ability- especially a friend of his like Cousins who really liked the city of DC at least for a while.

The fact that Wall seems to have - if anything- a negative gravitational pull, brings back that controversial quote from JJ Barea last year when he said basically that I don't like John Wall but you know what, his teammates don't even like him either.

Not good.

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FAH1223 · Post #1808 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:01 am

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SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1809 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:04 am

We could've drafted everyone on the Warriors, except KD, who they signed as a free agent during our hometown KD2DC campaign...

smh

Post #1810 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:07 am

Eli Babak wrote:I can't wait this Warriors team to break up. Hopefully it happens next year when Durant goes somewhere else and Cousins wants $$$. I know they have drafted well etc. and I respect that but come on, this is ridiculous.

I'm with you bro. And that feeling will be worse next summer with KD and Kawhi go to LA to play with LeBron. :nonono:

FAH1223 · Post #1811 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:33 am

Earth2Ted wrote:
keynote wrote:
jangles86 wrote:Wall and Beal have attracted ZERO free agent talent to this team.

It’s clearly time we split this underachieving duo up in my opinion.
Not sure if you're serious. But I'm starting to agree.

Like it or not, one of the responsibilities of a star in today's NBA is to recruit other players. When Wall was younger, he had a rep for making players money. But now, it doesn't appear that Wall or Beal have enough stroke to recruit their buddies. Perhaps Wall's wallet-watching has earned him a rep; I dunno. But either Wall tried to recruit Boogie but couldn't convince EG/Ted to sign off, or he tried to recruit Boogie and failed, or he didn't try at all. None of those scenarios make me feel great about Wall's future in DC.

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Agreed as well. As bad a GM as EG may be, guys should be interested in coming here to play with John because of his passing ability- especially a friend of his like Cousins who really liked the city of DC at least for a while.

The fact that Wall seems to have - if anything- a negative gravitational pull, brings back that controversial quote from JJ Barea last year when he said basically that I don't like John Wall but you know what, his teammates don't even like him either.

Not good.

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CobraCommander · Post #1812 » by **CobraCommander** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:57 am

Lebron,Durant,kahwi, Curry and AD are joining forces...all playing for league min...Boogie, Embiid,Westbrook,harden and CP3 on bench..pop coaching and Danny ainge the GM...they playing for the lakers .they all wearing Jordan’s...when they get tired they can have sinsu beans...and they are allowed to do HGH and roids.....welll thats what it feels like...soooo why watch the NBA again?

FAH1223 · Post #1813 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 4:32 am

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Post #1814 » by **nate33** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:00 am

The possibility exists that Cousins won't be a remotely useful player this year because of the injury.

queridiculo · Post #1815 » by **queridiculo** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:41 am

nate33 wrote:The possibility exists that Cousins won't be a remotely useful player this year because of the injury.

Sure, but there's also the possibility that by the time the season goes into the final third he can provide some useful minutes and play himself into shape for the playoffs.

A team that's desperate to add talent and that's committed to winning might throw caution into the wind every so often.

That's not who the Wizards are though, double bottom life yo.

Leonsis is never going to foot the bill to put the best team possible on the floor, that's why he's keeping Ernie around.

He's the master of eating **** and putting on a face the screams "give me more".

Post #1816 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 12:59 pm

Here's the thing:

1. Ernie played it safe. There's a report or two out there that Cousins probably wouldn't play until January, or maybe post-ASG. Ernie would have gotten killed for making a signing like that. GSW can afford to be patient. Wizards couldn't, him signing here has a totally different meaning and take vs. signing with the Warriors. GSW doesn't need him to win a championship.

2. GSW were the only team Cousins would have signed the MLE with.

3. If he never tore his achilles, he wouldn't even be in Golden State.

verbal8 · Post #1817 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:00 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Here's the thing:

1. Ernie played it safe. There's a report or two out there that Cousins probably wouldn't play until January, or maybe post-ASG. Ernie would have gotten killed for making a signing like that. GSW can afford to be patient. Wizards couldn't, him signing here has a totally different meaning and take vs. signing with the Warriors. GSW doesn't need him to win a championship.

2. GSW were the only team Cousins would have signed the MLE with.

3. If he never tore his achilles, he wouldn't even be in Golden State.

The way things were, the Wizards didn't have a good path to acquiring Cousins this offseason. However it really points to what a disaster 2016 was for the franchise.

If EG could have avoided just one of his bonehead signings that off-season, the Wizards would likely been under the tax. That would mean a bigger MLE and the bi-annual exception also. The option to add 2 or 3 solid players would have given the Wizards more leverage in the the Gortat situation. They wouldn't have had to accept a player whose "production" is minutes and shots in return. Or heck they might have been able to demand a future asset.

dckingsfan · Post #1818 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:12 pm

Yeah - the Warriors aren't going to let Cousins play until he is good and ready. Even then they will bring him back slowly so that they can have him play 20 or so meaningful minutes during the playoffs. McGee, West and Pachulia played 24 mpg during the playoffs. Cousins only needs to play those minutes to be a success. Those 3 were very productive in their minutes this year.

closg00 · Post #1819 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:00 pm

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Post #1820 » by **nate33** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:28 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Yeah - the Warriors aren't going to let Cousins play until he is good and ready. Even then they will bring him back slowly so that they can have him play 20 or so meaningful minutes during the playoffs. McGee, West and Pachulia played 24 mpg during the playoffs. Cousins only needs to play those minutes to be a success. Those 3 were very productive in their minutes this year.

I really don't think Cousins will help Golden State all that much in the postseason. Any lineup with him on the floor is certainly worse than their death lineup with the Big Four and Iggy. Cousins can't fit their switching system defensively, and offensively he's a a ball-stopper. He's also lazy as hell in defensive transition.

Where Cousins is going to help is in February, March and April. Golden State can rest some of their stars and they can instead try to run more offense through Cousins. Simple Curry/Cousins pick-and-pops are going to be effective against most bad and mediocre teams. Running the offense through Cousins makes Golden State a 50-win team instead of a 60-win team, but playing like a 50-win team is good enough to beat most bad teams. And if they can do that while resting Curry, Klay, Durant and Green down the stretch, it'll allow them to be fresh in the playoffs. Golden State's #1 enemy right now is accumulated fatigue - mental and physical. Cousins should help them a lot in that regard.