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Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1821 » by fishercob » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:00 pm

How would CCJ process a Blair for Sessions swap? He wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.

I remember hearing somewhere that Sessions once had 20 assists in a game.....

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1822 » by TheSecretWeapon » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:16 pm

The last two seasons (preceding this one), Sessions was about as productive as Andre Miller has been this season -- PPA of 88 vs. Miller's 80 so far this season. For this season, Sessions' PPA is 16 in 642 minutes. So, last three seasons combined: 78.

That said, I'd swap Gooden for him. Might as well trade Blair. It would be an absolute steal for the Kings, but it's not like the Wizards are going to use him.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1823 » by Dark Faze » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:31 pm

Sessions was on a playoff team last year with Charlotte and averaged 41% FG and 22% 3PFG 55 games. He's been even worse this year after 36 games.

Seriously, stop entertaining dreck like this, it's the reason we're in the cellar as it is.
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Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1824 » by Induveca » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:34 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:
TheSecretWeapon wrote:The Wizards will remain in that position I wrote about some time ago -- they're still challenged when it comes to ADDING to what they have. This offseason, they REPLACED Ariza with Pierce and Booker with Humphries. They're a little better this year than last, primarily because Wall has been more productive.

When 2016 comes, they'll be looking to replace at minimum two key players: Nenê and Pierce. Perhaps the Pierce replacement is already on the roster (Porter). Perhaps Durant is the replacement for Nenê -- sorta. Sign Durant, and they're basically capped out, which is probably fine because Wall-Beal-Porter-Durant-Gortat is a formidable group (at least on paper, assuming Gortat doesn't have a significant age-related drop-off).

So, Durant (or any free agent) would really be putting considerable faith in Grunfeld to assemble a championship-level roster. Maybe that happens, but I think a savvy agent whose client wanted to win a title might steer him elsewhere.


Why are we assuming KD will play the 4? Does that make sense? Would KD be happy about it?


This is a good point. I wasn't over-worried about exact lineups. Maybe Porter -- if he develops -- could be swapped for a comparably productive PF type to clear lineup room for Durant.


He'd be the last powerful PF in the game. Still love Gortat reporting Porter was up to 13 pound Dumbbells in the weight room from 10 last year.

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1825 » by verbal8 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:34 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:The last two seasons (preceding this one), Sessions was about as productive as Andre Miller has been this season -- PPA of 88 vs. Miller's 80 so far this season. For this season, Sessions' PPA is 16 in 642 minutes. So, last three seasons combined: 78.


Sessions and Miller strike me as being similar players.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1826 » by MikeTheKid » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:47 pm

Im not gonna make anymore comments until after the deadline cause if I keep reading about pursuing Cole or Session Im gonna commit suicide
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1827 » by 80sballboy » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:48 pm

verbal8 wrote:
TheSecretWeapon wrote:The last two seasons (preceding this one), Sessions was about as productive as Andre Miller has been this season -- PPA of 88 vs. Miller's 80 so far this season. For this season, Sessions' PPA is 16 in 642 minutes. So, last three seasons combined: 78.


Sessions and Miller strike me as being similar players.


Yeah, if you're a stat freak. All I know is that he's 10 years younger and is not a statue. He stinks this year but maybe in a new situation he's be decent. We're not getting Chris Paul so there's a reason why a guy like that is available.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1828 » by 80sballboy » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:58 pm

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Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1829 » by Induveca » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:01 am

How about:

Seraphin
Webster

For:

Lin
Ed Davis

Lakers can sit Webster immediately and part with him in the offseason when he doesn't hit his games mark. Then make it clear to Seraphin they want no part of him next year.

Davis we have a chance to convince to stay, and Lin would be a great backup PG to Wall. We would have to pay Lin 15 million next year, but he's expiring. Doesn't hurt our run at Durant.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1830 » by LyricalRico » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:08 am

80sballboy wrote:http://wizofawes.com/2015/02/18/anthony ... line-2015/


Bennett for Seraphin straight up? I'd think about it, assuming they decline the 4th year option. Would make more sense if it was a follow-up to another deal for a backup center, which is probably unlikely.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1831 » by sashae » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:08 am

clearly ernie's only option to replace maynor's production is to acquire cole or sessions.

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1832 » by LyricalRico » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:12 am

Make it Sessions+Thompson for Webster+Blair and I'm in.

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EDIT: then offer Seraphin+Miller for a 2016 contract and a pick to anyone who wants cap space this summer.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1833 » by WizardsWorld » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:46 am

I could live with Sessions although I don't think he's much of an upgrade from Miller. Norris Cole I absolutely HATE and don't want him anywhere near this team!
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1834 » by hands11 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:47 am

nate33 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball ... right-deal

J.Michael wrote:
  • Not taking on salary into 2016 remains a priority. Last summer, every deal made had short-term consequences with long-term flexibility in mind. So this means if an available player is owed $7 million-plus over multiple years, it better be one heck of a player with long-term value and allows the Wizards to unload a contract in return such as Martell Webster's. The problem is getting another team to bite on a deal with a player who has had three back surgeries and a few years left on his deal.
  • Backup center Kevin Seraphin is in demand (see the Minnesota Timberwolves who have tried to get him already) and their best asset to execute a trade but he's doubtful to go anywhere. First, he signed a qualifying offer which means he can veto any move for one year. Second, Seraphin is their best back-to-the-basket big man on the second unit and moving him, even with his consent, for a perimeter player makes little sense unless there's another move on the table to fill that void.
  • End-of-quarter situations will change. It's alarming with the way the Wizards are failing to execute here and the coaching staff has to show more imagination, and they've been told exactly this.

All 3 points made here are reassuring to me.

EG continues to be all in for KD2DC. That means those of you who keep discussing trades for guys like Kanter or Larry Sanders can give it a rest. It's not gonna happen.

I don't have a problem with the Wizards being reticent about giving up Seraphin in a trade for guard help. The point is valid. Seraphin provides a useful skill, one not provided by anyone other than Nene. What's the point of improving the backcourt if it hurts us just as much in the front court? The real issue is Seraphin's trade value is small because he's an impending UFA. We would only get back a 3rd tier guard for him, a guy who is unlikely to be much better than Miller or Temple in the first place. If we could trade Seraphin for good player like Isaiah Thomas, then I'd be real interested, but that's not gonna happen.

I really home J. Michael's source is accurate about those end-of-quarter situations. We're an embarrassment in that regard. It's interesting how he put it though: "they've been told exactly this". Could there's be a little trouble in paradise between EG and Wittman? Is Wittman feeling some pressure?


It's alarming with the way the Wizards are failing to execute here and the coaching staff has to show more imagination, and they've been told exactly this.

Yeah.. That's what I focused in on. Hey, Ted even said something.

I think the heat is getting raised on Randy. And that's a good thing. Time to stop being so stubborn and make the obvious adjustments.

As I said before, I actually thought he coached a good game against TOR all except a few major mess ups like not calling that time out on the 10 pts swing after TORs time out and, not giving the ball to PP on that last shot. Well, and that last play called being stupid.

But overall, he did well that game.

Now lets see if he can figure out what to do with Beal when he returns and how to spread the offense more so we can get back to Gortat PnR and corner 3s.

This years offense with PP available should be better then last years.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1835 » by WizardsWorld » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:47 am

Induveca wrote:How about:

Seraphin
Webster

For:

Lin
Ed Davis

Lakers can sit Webster immediately and part with him in the offseason when he doesn't hit his games mark. Then make it clear to Seraphin they want no part of him next year.

Davis we have a chance to convince to stay, and Lin would be a great backup PG to Wall. We would have to pay Lin 15 million next year, but he's expiring. Doesn't hurt our run at Durant.



I'd be all good with this one, don't see any reason the lakers would wanna do it. And Lin is expiring this year, not next. He'd be off the books in a few months.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1836 » by hands11 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:57 am

nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:KD isn't going to this team without a significant addition

I don't see why you keep asserting this. The Wizards are on pace to win 47-50 games this year. Next year, they'll probably do a bit better with Beal and Porter hopefully playing better. How good does a team need to be to woo Durant? Are you supposed to be a 60-win team before you get into the conversation? There aren't a lot of 60-win teams with max cap room.

Durant might come here if he sees us as a better opportunity than OKC. Some of that is going to depend on the health of Westbrook, the continued development of Ibaka (who has regressed substantially this year), and the development of Adams. Let's face it, that OKC team sans Durant hasn't been very good.


And

LeBron went home to CLE and they sucked.

I think more then a few things will factor into KDs decision. I think Wall is a HUGE factor. Owner will be important as well. Coach and GM. They will matter some but neither of those things are long term issues. They can be changed.

But Wall and Ted. They are here to stay so most of it will have to do with those two.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1837 » by hands11 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:06 am

TheSecretWeapon wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Now they are shifting from Jameer Nelson to Ramon Sessions according to Dave Aldridge on Twitter.

Kings fan here,

You guys can have Ramon Sessions for any expiring contract you've got. Give us your worst player. We don't care! Sessions just has 1 year left at $2 million on his deal.

How do you guys feel about Garrett Temple?


I'd rather have Garrett Temple on the Wizards than Ramon Sessions.


See.. Pablo Prigioni looking better and better for only a 2nd.

Dude has a 0.07 RPM.. last year it was 2.54 ranked 14th for PGs, and we know NY has sucked this year so that effects his numbers. Hell, I don't even think they are playing him anymore.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1838 » by hands11 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:12 am

fishercob wrote:How would CCJ process a Blair for Sessions swap? He wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.

I remember hearing somewhere that Sessions once had 20 assists in a game.....

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1839 » by Induveca » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:14 am

WizardsWorld wrote:
Induveca wrote:How about:

Seraphin
Webster

For:

Lin
Ed Davis

Lakers can sit Webster immediately and part with him in the offseason when he doesn't hit his games mark. Then make it clear to Seraphin they want no part of him next year.

Davis we have a chance to convince to stay, and Lin would be a great backup PG to Wall. We would have to pay Lin 15 million next year, but he's expiring. Doesn't hurt our run at Durant.



I'd be all good with this one, don't see any reason the lakers would wanna do it. And Lin is expiring this year, not next. He'd be off the books in a few months.


Ah, doesn't make sense for either side then. I'd like to get Lin in the offseason as a backup however. Far better option than Norris Cole, and likely same price at this point.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII 

Post#1840 » by hands11 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:18 am

80sballboy wrote:http://wizofawes.com/2015/02/18/anthony ... line-2015/


And that's why they gave him the QO.

Appears he does have some trade value. Now Bennett isn't the answer. Not with him contract but its good to know people are interested.

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