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Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

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Post#1821 » by dckingsfan » Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:12 pm

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Dark Faze wrote:The John Wall situation is so heart breaking to me. I don't understand why he's willing to take another year off from the game. That money is guaranteed regardless. I don't see the incentive for him to not play, beyond laziness.

He’s done. The only thing he has left to do is collect his $90 million and go off into the sunset

That's just the thing. He is not "done". He is still a viable NBA player. Heck, he's probably good enough to start on a half-dozen teams. I'm sure a team like Dallas or New Orleans would have paid him $7-10M on a one-year deal this year if he was available. Boston could certainly have used him at a price like that.

The problem is, he is an MLE caliber player being paid $43M. But he is unable to negotiate a buyout because he has a player option year next year for $45M that he can't formerly opt in on until the summer. So at the moment, he has just $43M on his contract so the most Houston could buy him out for right now is $43M. If Wall waits until the summer to opt in on next year's money and then negotiate a buyout he'll get all $43M of this year's money, plus the majority of the $45M of next year's money.

So basically, the final years of his NBA career are being wasted because he gets paid more to sit and do nothing than he does if he negotiates a buyout and signs with a team that could use him. Frankly, I think it's pretty shady that Houston is willingly sitting a good player (who would earn minutes on that team) because they literally don't want to win games. It's one thing to sit a guy with 20 games to go in the season because you are worried about him getting hurt, but you can't sit out a guy for an entire year.

One thing... I think that Houston feels his trade value will be higher next year as an expiring (if he isn't injured). And I think that it isn't that they don't want to win games (all though that could very well be the case) but rather they want to play the youngsters (specifically Porter) and that Wall would be coming off the bench (note Augustin is getting the backup minutes at PG.

Is Porter playing well. No. Neither is Green thus far.

One thing I don't get at all - why they are holding onto Christian Wood. It makes no sense in my mind. If they were consistent, they would be playing Şengün and Garuba too. Maybe they will wait until the trade deadline.
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Post#1822 » by gambitx777 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:14 am

Any one can be traded on a one year deal but maybe just just wants to give his body a rest. Like he's looking at D rose and is probably saying ok I'll stay in shape I'll work out and I'll prepare but give my body a rest so I can do what d rose has done. I mean he needs to rest, he put a lot of miles on those legs and maybe a year off could help him.

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#1825 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:04 pm

Not sure how Cousins will mesh in Budz’s ball movement offense.
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Post#1826 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:24 pm

I remember all the negative posts about both athletes named Cousins, Kirk and Boogie, especially the hate on Boogie. I liked him out of college. He became an NBA all star. Injuries took away his best year but he can still shoot and rebound. He will mesh very well with Giannis. His game is much like Portis, another player who I liked. Bobby has a ring but several posters didn't like him as a Wizard.
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Post#1827 » by closg00 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:58 pm

The Bucks nabbed Heat cast-off Javonte Smart, gave him a two-way
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Post#1828 » by gambitx777 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:13 pm

Looks like kembas on his way out of NY is this one of the fastest fades we've seen in a long time?

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#1830 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Dec 7, 2021 10:16 pm

Kelly Oubre is playing his best basketball. He's dropping 25 nightly, more efficiently than Beal.
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Post#1831 » by closg00 » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:48 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kelly Oubre is playing his best basketball. He's dropping 25 nightly, more efficiently than Beal.


KO is on-fire, he's a Top-10 3-point shooter
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Post#1832 » by gambitx777 » Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:27 pm

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Post#1833 » by dckingsfan » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:08 pm

Duh! Given where they are at in terms of competing and who they need to develop this is a no-brainer. Usman Garuba, Alperen Şengun, Kenyon Martin Jr. need to get the development minutes and they still have Thies and House.

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Post#1834 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:40 pm

I may still be proven wrong that Mac is not an NBA player, could be just a warm body on the bench
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#1835 » by Dark Faze » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:11 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kelly Oubre is playing his best basketball. He's dropping 25 nightly, more efficiently than Beal.


KO is on-fire, he's a Top-10 3-point shooter
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/table/offensive/sort/avgThreePointFieldGoalsMade/dir/desc


Good for him. Can't really blame any organizations for passing when he put up such a poor performance the dubs though.
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Post#1836 » by gambitx777 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:22 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Duh! Given where they are at in terms of competing and who they need to develop this is a no-brainer. Usman Garuba, Alperen Şengun, Kenyon Martin Jr. need to get the development minutes and they still have Thies and House.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264985/Rockets-Open-To-Trade-Offers-For-Christian-Wood
That signing of theis will boggle my brain forever.! Still remember when he was on our summer league team a million years ago!

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#1837 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:34 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:Duh! Given where they are at in terms of competing and who they need to develop this is a no-brainer. Usman Garuba, Alperen Şengun, Kenyon Martin Jr. need to get the development minutes and they still have Thies and House.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264985/Rockets-Open-To-Trade-Offers-For-Christian-Wood
That signing of theis will boggle my brain forever.! Still remember when he was on our summer league team a million years ago!

Remind me, did they sign him before or after the draft?

Either way - it was a terrible move given what they have and where they are at. Everything should be focused on developing their young ones into the 2023-24 season. A contract for this year and next wouldn't be good but at least it would have been understandable.
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Post#1838 » by FAH1223 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:Duh! Given where they are at in terms of competing and who they need to develop this is a no-brainer. Usman Garuba, Alperen Şengun, Kenyon Martin Jr. need to get the development minutes and they still have Thies and House.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264985/Rockets-Open-To-Trade-Offers-For-Christian-Wood
That signing of theis will boggle my brain forever.! Still remember when he was on our summer league team a million years ago!

Remind me, did they sign him before or after the draft?

Either way - it was a terrible move given what they have and where they are at. Everything should be focused on developing their young ones into the 2023-24 season. A contract for this year and next wouldn't be good but at least it would have been understandable.


Houston got Theis at the trade deadline back in March 2021.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#1839 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:34 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:That signing of theis will boggle my brain forever.! Still remember when he was on our summer league team a million years ago!

Remind me, did they sign him before or after the draft?

Either way - it was a terrible move given what they have and where they are at. Everything should be focused on developing their young ones into the 2023-24 season. A contract for this year and next wouldn't be good but at least it would have been understandable.


Houston got Theis at the trade deadline back in March 2021.

Yeah, not their best move... they should have been completely locked into rebuild mode by then...
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Post#1840 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:10 am

closg00 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kelly Oubre is playing his best basketball. He's dropping 25 nightly, more efficiently than Beal.


KO is on-fire, he's a Top-10 3-point shooter
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/table/offensive/sort/avgThreePointFieldGoalsMade/dir/desc


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