Political Roundtable Part XXIII

[gtn130]

Like there's literally an activated can of tear gas in view, yet the derposphere believes these are all crisis actors standing around choosing to get tear gassed as part of a broader political agenda or something.

POSING AS IF FLEEING!!! STANDING AROUND!!

[daoneandonly]

I don’t say this about most posters on this thread but STD is truly a dispicable human being. And it seems like daoneandonly is only too happy to roll in the muck with him.

No, I just hate 2 face propaganda. I hate it when Trump does it, and I'll hate it when the liberal media tries to exploit children to get clicks and get ppl talking. its tasteless, classless, and out right unethical. But it fits the narrative many on the left like to speak, so they roll with it.

Your president is literally putting kids in cages at the border, but yeah keep virtue signaling over abortion and how much you care about the exploitation of children.

And that in addition to what he said about Mexicans, his mocking of the reporter with a disability, the access hollywood tape, etc is why i never supported him in the primaries or considered him a good person. As I said, I was for kasich, rubio, or bush

and both ways gtn, dont u dare speak of children being mistreated or harmed when ur pro choice, definition of BS horse feces hypocrisy, u dont care about kids, and thats fine, its not some mandatory feleing one must have, but damn sure dont go propping up other atrocities to kids because it fits on ur side of the political spectrum, u dont care about kids, own it

[gtn130]

and both ways gtn, dont u dare speak of children being mistreated or harmed when ur pro choice, definition of BS horse feces hypocrisy, u dont care about kids, and thats fine, its not some mandatory feleing one must have, but damn sure dont go propping up other atrocities to kids because it fits on ur side of the political spectrum, u dont care about kids, own it

Bulletproof logic here, man. Very compelling stuff!

I support abortion, the MURDER OF BABIES, so I should also support every possible iteration of baby murder. Whether it's Syrian infants getting mowed down by US drones or my neighbor shooting up a school bus, I MUST 100% support those things if I'm being intellectually honest.

I've been owned!

[gtn130]

herp derp ABORTION

[daoneandonly]

herp derp ABORTION

her derp trump won two years ago and im still bitching about it. wha Hillary lost, our queen

[daoneandonly]

and both ways gtn, dont u dare speak of children being mistreated or harmed when ur pro choice, definition of BS horse feces hypocrisy, u dont care about kids, and thats fine, its not some mandatory feleing one must have, but damn sure dont go propping up other atrocities to kids because it fits on ur side of the political spectrum, u dont care about kids, own it

Bulletproof logic here, man. Very compelling stuff!

I support abortion, the MURDER OF BABIES, so I should also support every possible iteration of baby murder. Whether it's Syrian infants getting mowed down by US drones or my neighbor shooting up a school bus, I MUST 100% support those things if I'm being intellectually honest.

I've been owned!

yeah it makes so much sense, just because a child passed through the birth canal their life is sacred, but a baby still in the womb is worthless

you didnt get owned, you're just a 2 face hypocrite who cares kids when it fits the liberal agenda, like Hilalry did with her "who's watching out for our kids" psa or barack with his "popular" uniting tweet showing him in a pic with kids. You three are birds of a feather, kids matter when it suits your will.

[gtn130]

Or maybe people just don't look at abortion the same way you do?

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Hmmmm. Feels kinda collusiony to me

[Pointgod]

Like there's literally an activated can of tear gas in view, yet the derposphere believes these are all crisis actors standing around choosing to get tear gassed as part of a broader political agenda or something.

POSING AS IF FLEEING!!! STANDING AROUND!!

https://gizmodo.com/what-tear-gas-does-to-its-victims-1621571660

Tear gas is banned for use in warfare by the Geneva Convention. It's allowed, however, to be used by police as "domestic riot control,"

Tear gases are nerve gases that specifically activate pain-sensing nerves. Spelled out like that, people can better compare them to other nerve agents out there. That's the major discovery we made, that they are not benign or just irritants. The receptors are designed to warn a human or animal about exposure to a noxious chemical, so the animal removes itself from the exposure. They increase survival.

Tear gas under the Geneva Convention is characterized as a chemical warfare agent, and so it is precluded for use in warfare, but it is used very frequently against civilians. That's very illogical.

Reports from demonstrations in Egypt in 2013 state that 37 people died of asphyxiation after a tear gas canister was fired into the vehicle carrying them. Others have been blinded, maimed, or killed by tear gas canisters shot from close range. The War Resisters League reports on deaths caused by exposure to tear gas in closed spaces, miscarriages, and stillbirths after exposure to the chemicals. People with respiratory diseases like asthma are especially susceptible to tear gas, sometimes requiring long-term hospitalization. Overexposure can cause burns to the skin or eyes, the latter frequently causing blindness.

You can’t shrug off using tear gas on innocent people and claim to give a **** about human life.

[stilldropin20]

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so what kind of an animal was obama??? he used it once per month!!!

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[Jamaaliver]

Sounds like the Right Wingers have established their talking points to defend their actions this week:

It's okay, even Obama did it?



Shout outs to Kevin Sorbo for his expert insights. You're my inspiration Hercules.

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[daoneandonly]

Sounds like the Right Wingers have established their talking points to defend their actions this week:

It's okay, even Obama did it?



Shout outs to Kevin Sorbo for his expert insights. You're my inspiration Hercules.

My guess would be for most, its not defending it as "he did it, why cant I? it's Obama did it as well, but he's treated as the greatest, kindest, do no wrong president we ever had, when he's far from it.

[Pointgod]

Sounds like the Right Wingers have established their talking points to defend their actions this week:

It's okay, even Obama did it?



Shout outs to Kevin Sorbo for his expert insights. You're my inspiration Hercules.

STD is posting straight up lies. The guy is a sociopath and pathological liar you can’t trust anything he posts.

[daoneandonly]

Sounds like the Right Wingers have established their talking points to defend their actions this week:

It's okay, even Obama did it?



Shout outs to Kevin Sorbo for his expert insights. You're my inspiration Hercules.

STD is posting straight up lies. The guy is a sociopath and pathological liar you can’t trust anything he posts.

Are you saying that the Obama admin never used tear gas, cause that's false

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/26/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-border-once-mon/

[dckingsfan]

Or maybe people just don't look at abortion the same way you do?

You hit the nail on the head.

On the one hand, you have a group believes that conception that looks at the fetus as a child that should be given the highest level of protections. It is murder. Adoption vs. abortion. Babies should be carried even in the case of rape - they shouldn't be punished for another's crime. Taxes shouldn't be used for abortion or contraception. Young women don't have enough life experience to make those decisions and it will cause them lifelong pain and they are just being irresponsible. Once the baby is born, it is not the government’s responsibility to make sure they are looked after.

On the other hand, you have a group that believes that since a fetus is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb. The concept of personhood is different from the concept of human life. The mother is at the top of the list at this point not the fetus. Adoption is not an alternative to abortion because it remains the woman's choice whether or not to give her child up for adoption. Abortion is a much safe medical procedure than birth. In the case of rape or incest, forcing a woman made pregnant by this violent act would cause further psychological harm to the victim. Pregnancy can occur even with responsible contraceptive use. The ability of a woman to have control of her body is critical to civil rights (and privacy). Taxpayer dollars are used to enable poor women to access the same medical services as rich women, and abortion is one of these services. Teenagers who become mothers have grim prospects for the future. The stress of abortion is much less than the stress of giving up a baby.

Note: Life occurs at conception, but fertilized eggs are used for IVF are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Murder?

Note: Statistics show that very few women who give birth choose to give up their babies; less than 3 percent.

Note: Teenagers that have kids are much more likely to leave school, receive poor care for the deliveries (higher death rate) and develop health problems.

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[daoneandonly]

Or maybe people just don't look at abortion the same way you do?

You hit the nail on the head.

On the one hand, you have a group believes that conception that looks at the fetus as a child that should be given the highest level of protections. It is murder. Adoption vs. abortion. Babies should be carried even in the case of rape - they shouldn't be punished for another's crime. Taxes shouldn't be used for abortion or contraception. Young women don't have enough life experience to make those decisions and it will cause them lifelong pain and they are just being irresponsible. Once the baby is born, it is not the government’s responsibility to make sure they are looked after.

On the other hand, you have a group that believes that since a fetus is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb. The concept of personhood is different from the concept of human life. The mother is at the top of the list at this point not the fetus. Adoption is not an alternative to abortion because it remains the woman's choice whether or not to give her child up for adoption. Abortion is a much safe medical procedure than birth. In the case of rape or incest, forcing a woman made pregnant by this violent act would cause further psychological harm to the victim. Pregnancy can occur even with responsible contraceptive use. The ability of a woman to have control of her body is critical to civil rights (and privacy). Taxpayer dollars are used to enable poor women to access the same medical services as rich women, and abortion is one of these services. Teenagers who become mothers have grim prospects for the future. The stress of abortion is much less than the stress of giving up a baby.

Note: Life occurs at conception, but fertilized eggs are used for IVF are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Murder?

Note: Statistics show that very few women who give birth choose to give up their babies; less than 3 percent.

Note: Teenagers that have kids are much more likely to leave school, receive poor care for the deliveries (higher death rate) and develop health problems.

Not all believe babies should be carried in the case of rape, thats a broad brush. Rape is not the fault, consequence, or doing by the woman, just like if her life or the baby's life are in danger, those are terrible circumstances. We're talking the #1 reason for abortion, oopsie, didn't mean to get pregnant. That is of their doing, they know even when using protection its not 100%, your responsibility, be accountable

And yeah government paying for contraception is ridiculous, ppl should pay for it their damn selves. We're not talking a house, car, etc, we're talking freaking contraception, anyone with a job can afford it. These are the type of things people need to stop extending their palms for expecting a handout.

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Hmmmm. Feels kinda collusiony to me

The more accurate verbage is conspiratorial.