Official Trade Thread - Part XLII

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Keep Westbrook's sorry ass away from DC. He stinks.

He stinks at what salary? The one thing that dude has is energy.

He knows that his ability is slipping but the guy is a family man and a solid human being from everything I see.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

...I'm for anything that doesn't result in us trading away Avdija, future firsts, or removing the protections on our pick.

Well put.

Unfortunately, the most likely trade will be for Jerami Grant. & the most likely cost will involve Avdija -- maybe Bryant too.

Just waiting for the other foot to fall....

You know it but right now I am convincing myself that what they're going to do is something quite mild. If they trade Thomas for somebody like Jalen that is pretty much APUSH. I have not looked at the salaries at all but I think mantras Will Ferrell needs to be playing for Phoenix


I promise you I will replace my specs very soon.

[Gig18]

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WOJ says we don't have the assets to get Sabonis

Actually, what he said was Washington "may" not have the assets to get it done.

[9 and 20]

Keep Westbrook's sorry ass away from DC. He stinks.

He stinks at what salary? The one thing that dude has is energy.

He knows that his ability is slipping but the guy is a family man and a solid human being from everything I see.

Agree. Father Time has whooped his ass, but Westbrook would make sure we don't see any more listless, emotionless blowouts from start to finish. He would at least look like he cared when on the court. I'm tired of watching these dudes go down by 15 immediately then pout the rest of the game.

[9 and 20]

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WOJ says we don't have the assets to get Sabonis

Actually, what he said was Washington "may" not have the assets to get it done.

Yeah, I think, maybe reading between the lines, it means we don't have draft picks right now to trade. We could trade off some guys and get draft picks, though. Some kind of three or four team trade with some combination of Kuzma/Harrell/KCP going out along with one or two of our young guys. Sabonis comes back to us, Indy gets draft picks and young guys, 3rd/4th teams get the vets.

I'm not super jazzed about this, but Sabonis makes us a better team. Might get that all important play-in spot.

Terd gonna use that playoff cash to fund some phone booth upgrades like improved biodegradable straws, and then brag about saving the earth and getting the Wiz into the playoffs. Never mind that the straws don't work and the Wiz get swept in the first round. Move along, nothing to see here. Terd's a genius, you see.

[80sballboy]

I do think the Westbrook for Wall scenario and the buyout is certainly possible. But no way Westbrook wants to return to D.C. I could see him going to the Clippers or Sixers. Somebody that needs a backup guard who can give you an energy boost. That's what he's become. He's no longer a decent starter no matter how many hollow numbers he puts up. He may not think that, but the end is near.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Keep Westbrook's sorry ass away from DC. He stinks.

He stinks at what salary? The one thing that dude has is energy.

He knows that his ability is slipping but the guy is a family man and a solid human being from everything I see.

Agree. Father Time has whooped his ass, but Westbrook would make sure we don't see any more listless, emotionless blowouts from start to finish. He would at least look like he cared when on the court. I'm tired of watching these dudes go down by 15 immediately then pout the rest of the game.

Preach

You remember Rocky Balboa towards the end when he's like 60 years old and he tells his son about life. Westbrook knows how to get hit. That dude has balls out leadership. He keeps hacking away even if he's got a machete in a rainforest. What he did for Bradley Beal was incredible.

What he did is I hope what I did for my son's when I was being a bad father out of ignorance and mental health challenges

When Sam Cassell ran down the court doing that balls dance

That's how westbrooke plays

Sometimes the **** looks mindless and brainless but you cannot fault the dude for effort

All he has done is win a league MVP average a triple-double lead the league in scoring a couple of years the man even on his worst day is a **** genius when it comes to basketball

Michael Jordan himself compared himself to this player and the comparison extremely accurate when they both got older

The brain and the body are on a different sheet music but the heart is still beating strong

[Gig18]

I gotta say; I don't know how you put a trade package together when you're getting whupped by 30 every night.

[payitforward]

It doesn't matter whether we get Sabonis. Or any other veteran. We need to trade Bradley Beal -- if we can get anything for him.

This team is cooked. Done. Stick a fork in it.

I can't believe some of you are talking about getting John Wall back. Or getting Westbrook back.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I gotta say; I don't know how you put a trade package together when you're getting whupped by 30 every night.

You don't.

Fire up the orchestra and pretended that this ship is the Titanic and just keep sailing

The Commodores had this song called Sail on it was about parting ways and splitting company but what I'm trying to say is just keep swimming like in Finding Nemo

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It doesn't matter whether we get Sabonis. Or any other veteran. We need to trade Bradley Beal -- if we can get anything for him.

This team is cooked. Done. Stick a fork in it.

I can't believe some of you are talking about getting John Wall back. Or getting Westbrook back.

That is insane but it would be a little bit better than what we're doing right now at least a Westbrook for free option

The way I see it this is the perfect storm of goodness because we need to suck right now

What needs to happen is coach Junior needs to talk to people like me who actually are a lot smarter than we pretend be

If I showed my actual resume to these people and they actually gave me the time of day they would be feeling intimidated or threatened by what I actually know

Organizational development
Brainstorming
Stuff I forgot about leadership master's degree coursework
Being a certified peer specialist that deals with mental health issues in facilitating in things like that... whatever hachimura and Simone biles Adele with I probably have a little bit of technical knowledge with a certification but that was years ago like 5
Stuff as an actor stuff as an officer stuff as a father stuff as an athlete in high school anyway and stuff is a dude and 60 years old and has been in a scrap or two including being incarcerated for a little bit of a time actually arrested not incarcerated

To make this Barney simple what you really need is the PowerPoint display of pictures on how to put out all the potential Solutions and arrive at a consensus on what is feasible and what is not feasible


What is important to the billionaire Ted leonsis is really the bottom line and that is the way it is because he may as well be God in this equation


But if you know anything about Ted leonsis you would know something about his faith-based background and how to talk to the man


I don't know much about him but I do not think he is malevolent I think he tries his best to be a good dude

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Cold Sober straight facts. I'm sitting here not making a God damn thing and not really doing much but trying not to die. The Wizards are 24 wins and only 29 losses


If you really want to look up something look up bell curves

Galaxy in distribution no I said gals like Gauss gaussian distribution

Right now the odds are that the Wizards are going to have a hard time getting into playing game but it is certainly not impossible but is it even feasible to attempt to be in that game is the better question


The smartest thing that they could do would be to actually let somebody like Mike Fratello coach the team remotely and just have this coach pretend to be coaching for the rest of the season


An older veteran coach would know exactly which buttons to push and not push

An inward from the street like me with my background would be so frightening it's so intimidating that by the time they got there talking to me they really wouldn't want to say too much to me but if they did I would welcome it

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

This ain't chess difficult it's still Checkers to me

[jangles86]

Blow it up.

Beal gotta go. Dinwiddie is a scrub. KCP needs to get his ass to the bench.

Start Rui, Avdija and Kispert.

Need to trade Harrell, Kuzma, Bryant, Bertans, and Beal for something resembling a starting quality PG and a decent return of first round picks.

It’s a **** show.

[80sballboy]

Beal is not getting traded guys UNLESS he meets with Ted and says I'm done. "If you keep me, I'm opting out after this season." That's the only way. It's up to Brad. Not Tommy.

I'm all for it. Get Simmons and build shooters around him. Then it won't be a rebuild. Or something else. Or just get picks and completely rebuild.

The one thing that can completely F_CK this whole thing up is his left wrist. If that's a long-term thing, we are screwed either way.

[dangermouse]

I'm firmly in the rebuild camp, although we should have started after last season imo. Beal for Simmons + an incentive is a no brainer if its on the table, but even if its not, a rebuild around Deni, Rui and whoever we draft this year is a bit more exciting than the product currently on the floor, at least to me.

That being said, if we are not rebuilding, I like Sabonis as the target. He will help get buckets in the half court and he will help as a prolific rebounder, two pretty glaring issues we have right now. Are we a contender with him? Not a chance, but if its Move #1 in a series of moves to improve then I can think of much worse options.

[PaulinVA]

Beal is not getting traded guys UNLESS he meets with Ted and says I'm done. "If you keep me, I'm opting out after this season." That's the only way. It's up to Brad. Not Tommy.

I'm all for it. Get Simmons and build shooters around him. Then it won't be a rebuild. Or something else. Or just get picks and completely rebuild.

The one thing that can completely F_CK this whole thing up is his left wrist. If that's a long-term thing, we are screwed either way.

That's the part I'm so tired of reading; i.e., that the only way Beal goes is if BEAL wants to go. They leave the entire fate of the team up to him.

[WallToWall]

I have nothing to base this on, just my gut feel….which is often wrong. If we can’t make any moves that turns this team into a contender, then there will be a last minute trade involving Beal. In fact, one may have already been lined up, in principle. Thing is… I don’t think we have anything that we can or want to trade that will turn us into a contender. So, it’s possible that we already saw Beal’s last game.

[nate33]

I have nothing to base this on, just my gut feel….which is often wrong. If we can’t make any moves that turns this team into a contender, then there will be a last minute trade involving Beal. In fact, one may have already been lined up, in principle. Thing is… I don’t think we have anything that we can or want to trade that will turn us into a contender. So, it’s possible that we already saw Beal’s last game.

That is unquestionably the logical, intelligent think to do. But I don't see them doing it. I think they've talked themselves into believing that Beal will have more value when he's locked into a long term deal.

At this point, I think the likeliest outcome is that we S&T Beal in the offseason for peanuts. Something like Beal for Horford, Nesmith and a future lotto protected 1st.

[80sballboy]

Beal is not getting traded guys UNLESS he meets with Ted and says I'm done. "If you keep me, I'm opting out after this season." That's the only way. It's up to Brad. Not Tommy.

I'm all for it. Get Simmons and build shooters around him. Then it won't be a rebuild. Or something else. Or just get picks and completely rebuild.

The one thing that can completely F_CK this whole thing up is his left wrist. If that's a long-term thing, we are screwed either way.

That's the part I'm so tired of reading; i.e., that the only way Beal goes is if BEAL wants to go. They leave the entire fate of the team up to him.

In some ways, it's good. The star player has the power. But they could trade him whether he wants to go or not. You're leaving the entire fate of the franchise in the hands of the 15th, 20th or 25th best player in the league? Maybe 20th this season?

Coming into this season, Sporting News had him at 21st. That was before the 23ppg and 30% three-point shooting. So maybe he is 25th. And that's who you are building your franchise around? ESPN.com did have him 11th laughably over Jimmy Butler. I can't imagine that list would be the same now. So maybe he's on the downside at 28, turning 29 on June 28.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/best-nba-players-entering-2021-22/vwqyadnexkbs1vh8etej6wm2f
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32249592/nbarank-2021-ranking-best-players-2021-22-25-6