Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 5

verbal8 · Post #1861 » by **verbal8** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:54 am

keynote wrote:Noah @ $18M/year? That's a little rich for my blood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/06/29/joakim-noah-expected-to-sign-with-new-york-knicks-for-18-milllion-a-year/

That is pretty crazy if it is a 4 year deal. That is about 19% of the cap.

BigA · Post #1862 » by **BigA** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:13 am

verbal8 wrote:
keynote wrote:Noah @ $18M/year? That's a little rich for my blood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/06/29/joakim-noah-expected-to-sign-with-new-york-knicks-for-18-milllion-a-year/

That is pretty crazy if it is a 4 year deal. That is about 19% of the cap.

So putting out the rumor of the Wizards making a max offer to Noah was a transparent negotiating move to get a better deal from the Knicks?

A great player or coach doesn't necessarily make a great GM.

Fortunately for Ernie, there are always going to be teams making moves like these, making sustained mediocrity look a little better by comparison.

Post #1863 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:04 pm

verbal8 wrote:
keynote wrote:Noah @ $18M/year? That's a little rich for my blood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/06/29/joakim-noah-expected-to-sign-with-new-york-knicks-for-18-milllion-a-year/

That is pretty crazy if it is a 4 year deal. That is about 19% of the cap.

Hey, he scored 4.3 points a game last season. That's like... close to 5.

AFM · Post #1864 » by **AFM** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:22 pm

That's incredible value for 4 ppg. Maybe we should max Jarrell Eddie

Post #1865 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:28 pm

It's moot now, but this is the first I've heard that the Raptors had a shot at Ibaka on draft night:

The Raptors’ primary vacancy is at power forward and as their efforts to land Serge Ibaka in a trade indicated, they have ambitions about how to fill it.

In the end the Raptors balked at sending Cory Joseph, Norman Powell, Patrick Patterson and their No. 9 pick to Oklahoma City for Ibaka.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-negotiation-demar-derozan-quick-one/

Very interesting. Maybe they settle for Kanter instead, if OKC needs to move him to get Horford? Can he play with Valanciunas?

Post #1866 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:33 pm

And in other news, the Lakers already sounding defeated:

Maybe this summer will be different. Maybe this is the one that breaks the spell of the past three and sends superstar free agents stampeding back to Los Angeles for more than just an offseason vacation in Rhode Island-sized Brentwood mansions. Maybe now, finally, NBA A-listers will sign with the Los Angeles Lakers, revitalize the league's glamour franchise and carry it to a slew of champagne-soaked Junes.

Or, as Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak said recently, "It might not be different." With those five words, Kupchak doused expectations of Lakers fans, preparing them instead for a fourth straight summer of rejection, another offseason of nope.

Kupchak added that depending on how free agency unfolds, "There may be meetings, there may not be meetings. Things may be done quickly, they may take a week or two. There may not be face-to-face meetings, there may be a couple."

"I think what we'd like to do is put together a group of players that are growing, that are fun to watch and they improve as the season goes along -- clearly, with the intent to keep the interest of our supporters, our fans, our partners, our season-seat holders. You do have to win games.

"That doesn't mean we have to win 40, or 45, or 50. It may not even mean you make the playoffs. I don't know what it's going to take to make the playoffs next year. Maybe you've got to win 48 games to get in in the West. And maybe we win 47. Or maybe we win 37. I don't know.

"But as long as the team is fun to watch, our fans and our partners can see a team that's growing and getting better as the season goes along, I think that's the barometer that's best for us."

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/43225/lakers-prepared-for-another-summer-of-rejection

Man, just not used to hearing that coming out of LA. Good thing they're getting Westbrook next summer!

80sballboy · Post #1867 » by **80sballboy** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:21 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748585635968131072[/tweet]

closg00 · Post #1868 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:22 pm

Saw some tweets that the Mavs were getting Whiteside and Conley. So Cuban basically does the Ted and Ernie game much better than they do, major FA's will at-least consider Dallas, and sometimes sign with them too.

FAH1223 · Post #1869 » by **FAH1223** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:19 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748730351443255296[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/zachlowe_nba/status/748730797440446464[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/748729312325595137[/tweet]

queridiculo · Post #1870 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:35 pm

With the money that's being thrown around it's pretty darn obvious that now more than ever the teams that do well in the draft will be the teams that are setup for longterm success.

This idea that you can just put together 3-4 quality guys and compete will put teams like the Wizards squarely on their ass.

The fact that the Celtics are on Durants short list speaks volume about how the Celtics and Wizards are perceived around the league for example.

Chess and checkers, Ted and Ernie are killing this franchise.

verbal8 · Post #1871 » by **verbal8** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:48 pm

queridiculo wrote:Chess and checkers, Ted and Ernie are killing this franchise.

I am not sure Ernie is even good at checkers.

Post #1872 » by **Rafael122** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 1:14 pm

closg00 wrote:Saw some tweets that the Mavs were getting Whiteside and Conley. So Cuban basically does the Ted and Ernie game much better than they do, major FA's will at-least consider Dallas, and sometimes sign with them too.

The Mavs are always the bridesmaid and never the bride when it comes to free agency. They very well may end up in rebuilding mode if they can't get Conley.

FAH1223 · Post #1873 » by **FAH1223** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 3:40 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/748889214725398528[/tweet]

LOL

gtn130 · Post #1874 » by **gtn130** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:14 pm

People should be loling at Phil Jackson much more than they are.

Trade Robin Lopez who has 3 yrs left at 4/$54
Sign Noah at 4/$72

Lopez > Noah right now not even considering money. Just astonishing.

And know Pjax is circling the wagons for Eric Gordon lmao

verbal8 · Post #1875 » by **verbal8** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:29 pm

There doesn't seem to be much info regarding Horford so far.

keynote · Post #1876 » by **keynote** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:29 pm

Whoa.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748915126183440384[/tweet]

IND will be much improved next year.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748916423934693377[/tweet]

That's a good price, too.

Illuminaire · Post #1877 » by **Illuminaire** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:34 pm

I'm not a fan of Jefferson's game, but at 10 million a year... dang. That's a fantastic acquisition.

JWizmentality · Post #1878 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:36 pm

Wow, what it must be like to be a fan of a well run team. Indy going to be great

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gtn130 · Post #1879 » by **gtn130** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:37 pm

Jefferson is washed. Why is this a great deal?

JWizmentality · Post #1880 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:58 pm

gtn130 wrote:Jefferson is washed. Why is this a great deal?

Because he's still serviceable and they got him for peanuts.

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