Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIII

[gambitx777]

Mahinmi, smith, a 2018 second and aaron white for Aldridge seems like a really fair deal to me. Probably all they would get on the open market too. Lets get that done!

I wonder if in search of a healthy back up big the 76ers would do gortat and a 2019 first for ruchan holmes? Nice cap space for us and they gain a future first the are pretty log jammed up front and could use the money on the books short term and gortat is on a reasonable deal for the short term.

Doubt they want to tie up cap space.

I think our best chance is Gortat + Oubre + First for Cousins at the deadline. And it requires a lot of collusion in regards to recruiting with John.

If you think that Gortat kelley and a first for cousins is fair in what world is Mahinmi, smith, a second and a draft rights player not fair for aldridge, a much older, leser player (while still good and could help this team) has damaged his own trade value.

The spurs are week up front and could use some vet depth and D, they like high character guys, and to get aldridge out of the locker room they might be fine with taking mahinmi. Id be fine making it a first fi that what they insisted on but Lets face facts, PG CP3 Jimmy buttler and Lopez went for the deals they went for, Aldridge trying to leave SA hi trade value you is rock bottom. Scope in and snatch that up and move on.

[Dark Faze]

If you think that Gortat kelley and a first for cousins is fair in what world is Mahinmi, smith, a second and a draft rights player not fair for aldridge, a much older, leser player (while still good and could help this team) has damaged his own trade value.

The spurs are week up front and could use some vet depth and D, they like high character guys, and to get aldridge out of the locker room they might be fine with taking mahinmi. Id be fine making it a first fi that what they insisted on but Lets face facts, PG CP3 Jimmy buttler and Lopez went for the deals they went for, Aldridge trying to leave SA hi trade value you is rock bottom. Scope in and snatch that up and move on.

I said collusion for a reason. If Cousins pulls a Paul George in our favor then that'd be a decent haul for New Orleans.

The Spurs aren't going to trade an all-star who is expiring in just two (possibly 1) season for Ian Mahinmi and trash prospects. Especially with Ian locked up for the long term.

Hell Dedmon might be cheaper, better, and more reliable than Mahinmi anyway.

[gambitx777]

If you think that Gortat kelley and a first for cousins is fair in what world is Mahinmi, smith, a second and a draft rights player not fair for aldridge, a much older, leser player (while still good and could help this team) has damaged his own trade value.

The spurs are week up front and could use some vet depth and D, they like high character guys, and to get aldridge out of the locker room they might be fine with taking mahinmi. Id be fine making it a first fi that what they insisted on but Lets face facts, PG CP3 Jimmy buttler and Lopez went for the deals they went for, Aldridge trying to leave SA hi trade value you is rock bottom. Scope in and snatch that up and move on.

I said collusion for a reason. If Cousins pulls a Paul George in our favor then that'd be a decent haul for New Orleans.

The Spurs aren't going to trade an all-star who is expiring in just two (possibly 1) season for Ian Mahinmi and trash prospects. Especially with Ian locked up for the long term.

Hell Dedmon might be cheaper, better, and more reliable than Mahinmi anyway.

Number one, If aldridge wants out they have to move him or risk team chemistry falling apart. They probably would not mind letting him walk for nothing, tis the spurs. Plus like I said good locker room guys, they love those and maybe no one else wants him its honestly no worse than the packages other stars are getting. and like i said its the market, aldridge wants out of the spurs, the spurs, thats some bad juju not a lot of teams would touch. He have a history, making use out of slight trouble makers, gortat, morris. etc. and also like i siad id tosse in 2019 first and keep the second to get the deal done, but it honestly is not a bad deal, since the need the depth and dedmon might not even stay with the spurs.

[pcbothwel]

Mahinmi, smith, a 2018 second and aaron white for Aldridge seems like a really fair deal to me. Probably all they would get on the open market too. Lets get that done!

I wonder if in search of a healthy back up big the 76ers would do gortat and a 2019 first for ruchan holmes? Nice cap space for us and they gain a future first the are pretty log jammed up front and could use the money on the books short term and gortat is on a reasonable deal for the short term.

Doubt they want to tie up cap space.

I think our best chance is Gortat + Oubre + First for Cousins at the deadline. And it requires a lot of collusion in regards to recruiting with John.

If you think that Gortat kelley and a first for cousins is fair in what world is Mahinmi, smith, a second and a draft rights player not fair for aldridge, a much older, leser player (while still good and could help this team) has damaged his own trade value.

The spurs are week up front and could use some vet depth and D, they like high character guys, and to get aldridge out of the locker room they might be fine with taking mahinmi. Id be fine making it a first fi that what they insisted on but Lets face facts, PG CP3 Jimmy buttler and Lopez went for the deals they went for, Aldridge trying to leave SA hi trade value you is rock bottom. Scope in and snatch that up and move on.

What?
How about you take the assets from us in both of those trades and rank them as it stands today...
Positive: Oubre and the 1st
Neutral: Gortat, Smith, 2nd, and White
Negative: Mahinmi

So one trade has two positive assets and one neutral asset while yours is some neutral assets and a negative...

How about the other side of the trade?

Spurs: They are competing this year and will be doing so at the deadline. They have no reason to take a step back at any point. Next summer, they will have a max spot available and over 50M if/when Aldridge opts out. That could be one elite/top 10-15 player and another top 40-50 player... No reason to lose that opportunity

NOP: While they are "competing" for a playoff spot now, they could very well find themselves in the 9th/10th spot around the deadline. They are the smallest media market in the NBA and a perpetual loser. If Cousins walks, would have a lottery team with no way to back fill as they would only have about 10M in cap space with Boogie leaving.
However, trading Boogie could allow them to for a quick rebuild as I mentioned earlier.

[NatP4]

Avery Bradley?

Get that TPE from Bojan, absorb Bradley salary for a 2nd round pick.

[Dat2U]

Anyway we can get Crowder and run him or Otto at PF?

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Avery Bradley?

Get that TPE from Bojan, absorb Bradley salary for a 2nd round pick.

I'd run with that. But where would that put us with regard to lux tax? Wouldn't we need to shed some salary first?

But, if we're dreaming...

Wall Bradley Frazier
BB Meeks Mac
OP Oubre
Splief Scott Smith
Gortat Tahini

Saves John's legs. That second unit would play lock down D and could also space the floor.

If Terd weren't penny wise, pound foolish, he'd understand that a few sheckles now for an excellent back up for Wall would be well werth the investment long term.

[gambitx777]

Avery Bradley?

Get that TPE from Bojan, absorb Bradley salary for a 2nd round pick.

I'd run with that. But where would that put us with regard to lux tax? Wouldn't we need to shed some salary first?

But, if we're dreaming...

Wall Bradley Frazier
BB Meeks Mac
OP Oubre
Splief Scott Smith
Gortat Tahini

Saves John's legs. That second unit would play lock down D and could also space the floor.

If Terd weren't penny wise, pound foolish, he'd understand that a few sheckles now for an excellent back up for Wall would be well werth the investment long term.

Honestly if we can get crowder, that would be better hes a movable asset, bradley would be decent trade bait at the dead line at the least. But we could at the very least. Gain an asset on the cheap. Crowder would be a great steal 3 years left on a great value contract. We could then use Kelley to gain ground on a boogie trade or something of the like.

[Error Afflalo]

I can't see Boston trading us Bradley or Smart. If they're just dumping one of them for space there are other teams out there that a) can take on those salaries right now and b) aren't a threat to them in the east. I'd love to have either one, though.

[gambitx777]

If we can secure a S&T of bogz to any where and turn a second and or Aaron white into crowder, that would be a massive steal.

[Benjammin]

If we can secure a S&T of bogz to any where and turn a second and or Aaron white into crowder, that would be a massive steal.

There is no motivation whatsoever for the Celtics to trade to the Wiz anyone of value. They will have plenty of other options.

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[mhd]

What about this trade:

Wiz trade Mahinmi+Future 2nd for Asik
ATL trade: Plumlee for Mahinmi
Suns trade: Knight for Plumlee+Wiz future 2nd
Pels trade: Asik for Knight

Wiz shave about 5 million about the difference between Asik & Mahinmi. Pets get an overpaid wing scorer in exchange for an overpaid center who doesn't play. Suns get a future 2nd and save a bit of cash for an energy big who has the same length as Knight. ATL upgrades from Plumlee to Mahinmi at the cost of 3.5 million per year for the same amount of years.

[tontoz]

Anyway we can get Crowder and run him or Otto at PF?

If they are willing to take on a little salary i am sure they would take Gortat. They don't have to worry about the luxury tax. They had to be way under the cap to sign Hayward.

Gortat would give them some much needed size. We would add a good player and get some tax savings.

I doubt they would take Markief.

[gambitx777]

Anyway we can get Crowder and run him or Otto at PF?

If they are willing to take on a little salary i am sure they would take Gortat. They don't have to worry about the luxury tax. They had to be way under the cap to sign Hayward.

Gortat would give them some much needed size. We would add a good player and get some tax savings.

I doubt they would take Markief.

They need to dump salary to honor the commitment that they made to him. Gortat won't work.

[gambitx777]

If we can secure a S&T of bogz to any where and turn a second and or Aaron white into crowder, that would be a massive steal.

There is no motivation whatsoever for the Celtics to trade to the Wiz anyone of value. They will have plenty of other options.

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As desperate as they are and teams knowing they have so many assets and knowing that they are over a barrel if they don't more those deals. we might be one of the few teams, offering any kind of assets in return instead of asking for one to take the contracts.

[gambitx777]

Althought the jazz might be willing to take all 3 in a sign and trade deal cuz why not get something for him if hes walking and if they are going to trade them any way why not out of the conference to the team whos star you stole.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

So the question is, can we make a trade that will bring in a major piece to make us competitive with Boston and Cleveland?

As far as potential targets, IMO a center, or at least someone who can play there some with maybe some at PF as well... someone who will fit into a line-up with Wall, Beal, Otto, Morris.

Cousins would top my list. I also think Aldridge is worth consideration.

Now, what assets do we have that we would be willing to part with and that other teams would be interested in?

1. Gortat
2. Oubre
3. 2018 1st
4. Satoransky
5. McCullough
6. Aaron White

Now the question is, can a package with any of or even all of that get us one of those guys? They work for both in the trade checker. I'm not sure if New Orleans does that deal, but I think San Antonio could. I could see them liking all of these guys, Gortat is solid, and the young guys have the potential to work in their system.

Cousins would be the move if possible, but Wall, Beal, Porter, Morris, Aldridge could be a really good team... bench needs work with Frazier, Meeks, Scott, Smith, Mahinmi..


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6903150


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6903199

[gambitx777]

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[Meliorus]

So the question is, can we make a trade that will bring in a major piece to make us competitive with Boston and Cleveland?

As far as potential targets, IMO a center, or at least someone who can play there some with maybe some at PF as well... someone who will fit into a line-up with Wall, Beal, Otto, Morris.

Cousins would top my list. I also think Aldridge is worth consideration.

Now, what assets do we have that we would be willing to part with and that other teams would be interested in?

1. Gortat
2. Oubre
3. 2018 1st
4. Satoransky
5. McCullough
6. Aaron White

Now the question is, can a package with any of or even all of that get us one of those guys? They work for both in the trade checker. I'm not sure if New Orleans does that deal, but I think San Antonio could. I could see them liking all of these guys, Gortat is solid, and the young guys have the potential to work in their system.

Cousins would be the move if possible, but Wall, Beal, Porter, Morris, Aldridge could be a really good team... bench needs work with Frazier, Meeks, Scott, Smith, Mahinmi..


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6903150


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6903199

4-6 need to be reevaluated as "assets". We're so devoid of actual young talent that we assign value to obscure players that arguably don't exist.

[gambitx777]

I mean would any of us be ok with a deal of gortat kelley, smith and a 2019 unprotected first for boogie and ajenca ?
I doubt they do it but who knows.