Political Roundtable Part XXXI

[pancakes3]

Looks like the playbook now for being anti-green is to make a boogeyman out of China.

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-governor-nixes-thousands-green-211500489.html

[Pointgod]

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/22/1150259944/florida-rejects-ap-class-african-american-studies

Did someone post this already? I remember we had a side conversation about NPR. I think the insane Republican tweets screeching for censorship of the class speak for themselves.

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This goon hysterically advocating for the censorship of a class because it teaches a particular academic theory is particularly abhorrent. Fundamentally unamerican.

Notice that post didn’t mention anything in the curriculum? Just literally posted some out of context quotes about what an author said lol. If they had issues with the curriculum they could point to specific sections or books but the fact that they don’t is telling…..

[Wizardspride]

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[pancakes3]

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/583013-gov-desantis-calls-for-juror-supermajority-to-suffice-in-death-penalty-cases/

just 6 years removed from losing a SCOTUS case where it was held that states can't can't execute based on a simple majority in the jury, florida wants to know how many jurors can we ignore and still execute?

[Zonkerbl]

If you're scared to read Angela Davis you are pathetic and weak.

[Pointgod]

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Where are all the posters that cared about classified documents last week! Would love for them to opine on this issue. I mean they can’t be complete hypocrites can they?

[pancakes3]

this is the guy where some of yall get your news?

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[Zonkerbl]

I try not to post opinion pieces but this one is particularly timely and relevant to the conversation on DeSantis' "Don't Say Slavery" legislation:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/24/ap-african-american-studies-florida-desantis/

[pancakes3]

I don't mean to harp on DeSantis but this dude is really nuts. Fully.

tl;dr more educational censorship, this time directed at lgbtq+

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/24/florida-manatee-county-books-certified-media-specialist

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[Pointgod]

Good explanation why Desantis is full of ****. I genuinely can’t understand how people don’t see through this garbage.

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[Zonkerbl]

I don't mean to harp on DeSantis but this dude is really nuts. Fully.

tl;dr more educational censorship, this time directed at lgbtq+

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/24/florida-manatee-county-books-certified-media-specialist

https://web02.fldoe.org/rules/doc/6A-7.0715_2918.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0M_s401tJbiKY_IEFp3rPv0zYeuyFdlrJK-ZDlA23Brxb_-Y0hXD71rWg

He's not nuts, he's an unapologetic racist/homophobe bent on destroying Democracy in order to force his racist/homophobic views on everyone else. He's a deeply evil person. So is Youngkin.

[Wizardspride]

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[Pointgod]

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Please do it. Absolute gift to the Democratic Party.

[Zonkerbl]

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[Wizardspride]

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[Pointgod]

I don't mean to harp on DeSantis but this dude is really nuts. Fully.

tl;dr more educational censorship, this time directed at lgbtq+

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/24/florida-manatee-county-books-certified-media-specialist

https://web02.fldoe.org/rules/doc/6A-7.0715_2918.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0M_s401tJbiKY_IEFp3rPv0zYeuyFdlrJK-ZDlA23Brxb_-Y0hXD71rWg

Zonks hit the nail on the head, Desantis is evil. Undoubtedly he’ll get white washed during the primaries and if he makes it to the general election but people should not forget exactly how evil a lot of his actions are

[dobrojim]

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And the accusations of persecution against Golfy McBonespurs was one
of the go-to fallback positions used to defend tRump. The Russia hoax!!

I’m sure Fox will be all over this story and a mea culpa will be
coming from a certain mod around here.

[Zonkerbl]

Oh please. Anyone willing to see the truth around them already knows the collusion investigation was not a hoax. If you're still repeating Fox News talking points at this stage you're too far gone to come back. You'll only believe what your (non-Jewish!) billionaire puppetmasters tell you to believe.

[Zonkerbl]

Watched the first espisode of 1619 on Hulu last night and I can see there being a legit complaint about bias.

Yes, there was a factual event where the British governor of Virginia tried to intimidate colonists in the south, to keep them from rebelling, by threatening to emancipate the slaves, and that blew up in his face. Arguably that had an at least marginal effect on encouraging the south to join the rebellion. Would the rebellion not have happened, or happened but failed, without it? Hard to say. In the essay she stated it as fact, in the show she states it as a hypothesis, and gets a white male historian to assert that he thinks it's true, which I guess is fair. Fairer.

There's a few other exaggerations, I can't remember them off the top of my head. "Such and so would never have happened without black people doing x." Like "without black people we wouldn't have democracy" I mean, without black people, only white people would have Democracy, I think that's defensible. I imagine that's what she means. That's not really a democracy is it.

And then there are some logical connections that she doesn't, imho, hammer home enough. She makes the connection between Jim Crow and how "race neutral" rules end up disproportionately hurting black people. I hope one of the remaining 5 episodes goes into that in a little more detail. The example she gives is that if a mistake is made, it is much harder to fix, and without volunteers running around fixing it, everyone affected by the mistake will be disenfranchised. How many mistakes like that get made? How many voters does it effect? What are some other rules, what can we say about the number of voters affected? Does it also hurt white voters? Are the Republicans just thoughtlessly passing racist legislation that actually discourages their own elderly voters, costing them as many votes as they win?

Most politicians aren't stupid, but they are impatient and they have a tendency to rush to implement "fixes" that actually make things worse, and that may be what's happening. I'm sure Republican consultants are crunching the numbers of the 2022 elections and scratching their heads. "Wait, we *also* have old voters who will be affected by less accessible voting?"

I'm also curious if the anti vaxxer movement will kill off enough Republicans to affect election outcomes in swing states. Republicans completely abandoned their elderly voter segment, that used to be the only way they could win elections. It's weird.

[Zonkerbl]

In good news, it looks like the Fed was able to maneuver us into a soft landing AND get us out of the zero interest rate death spiral we've been in since 2009, so mea culpa and good job you guys.